Val Krul What Happened?
The Krul Files

Utica, NY

#21 Jan 25, 2012
Valentine Krul, a local priest for 34 years, was pastor of St. Mary's in New York Mills for 17 years. He was also receiving additional income serving as chaplain for the Oneida County Sheriff's Office:
www.uticaod.com/news/x767705271/Longtime-NY-M...

His brother, Raymond Krul, was Chief Deputy of the Oneida County Sherif's Office:
www.oneidacountysheriff.us/admin/krul.aspx
another priest falls down

Cortland, NY

#22 Jan 25, 2012
as a Catholic it's always depressing to see someone in the Church breaking the law and abusing their position.

but to everyone who thinks that this reflects on Catholicism in general, please remember that EVERY institution on earth has its share of bad apples. Schools, hospitals, boy scouts.

just because some Catholics like to think they're holier than thou, believe me we are all human and capable of bad actions.

Remember there are a lot of people doing good in the church.
dres

Harleysville, PA

#23 Jan 25, 2012
It makes me sick to read comments from idiots who dont know what they are talking about. They only believe what they read in the paper or press (which is extremely bais and hates the Church). Father Val is a good man. He is human. There is more to this story but is not being told. You all should keep your comments to yourself until you know the truth.
so share the other side

Cortland, NY

#24 Jan 25, 2012
dres wrote:
It makes me sick to read comments from idiots who dont know what they are talking about. They only believe what they read in the paper or press (which is extremely bais and hates the Church). Father Val is a good man. He is human. There is more to this story but is not being told. You all should keep your comments to yourself until you know the truth.
by all means i would love to hear ANYTHING that would justify or mitigate the charges against this priest. so tell the rest of the story already.

you are doing no service to father val by saying there is more to the story but then clamming up.
the one who knows

Hamilton, NY

#25 Jan 25, 2012
the truth behind him ever having any kind of badge is the fact that him and dan middaugh used to take alcohol and utica prostitutes[of all ages] to his camp in forestport and i know for sure some of the altar boys have gone there also and this was long before all the preist bs ever started so was he taking money to pay these boys off? who knows,but i think everyone that has been on that church committee in the last 15 yrs. should be investigated!!! i have been going to that church for 18 years and i hate to see it involved in this bs but alot of people at that place have known about his ways for a long time, so now we just have to hope that his gwumki eating buddy maciol doesnt help to cover up the real truth thats out there waiting to be found
First Stoned

Long Eddy, NY

#26 Jan 25, 2012
the one who knows wrote:
the truth behind him ever having any kind of badge is the fact that him and dan middaugh used to take alcohol and utica prostitutes[of all ages] to his camp in forestport and i know for sure some of the altar boys have gone there also and this was long before all the preist bs ever started so was he taking money to pay these boys off? who knows,but i think everyone that has been on that church committee in the last 15 yrs. should be investigated!!! i have been going to that church for 18 years and i hate to see it involved in this bs but alot of people at that place have known about his ways for a long time, so now we just have to hope that his gwumki eating buddy maciol doesnt help to cover up the real truth thats out there waiting to be found
Didn't Middaugh have a lot of financial problems too? Since Maciol is not the same political party as Middaugh, maybe he can dig something up instead of the usual Oneida County Republican coverup (Hi, Mark!).
the one who knows

Hamilton, NY

#27 Jan 25, 2012
who is this mark guy? and what role does he play in all of this
Lt Tragg

Whitesboro, NY

#28 Jan 25, 2012
Well, Hamilton Burger finally got a conviction! Seems EZEKIEL shot himself in the foot when he defended him.

He pleaded guilty. No Perry Mason tactics could save him this time! It was that Florida condo thing that was hard to explain!

At least he wasn't buggering little boys like Father Thomas Neary (New Hartford, early 1960s and Syracuse area, 1970s - 1980s) did. How creepy was that? Right here in New Hartford NY !!!
Tree Farmer

Baldwinsville, NY

#29 Jan 25, 2012
Marge wrote:
I wonder if David Barocsi would know? He hangs out at all the rectories.
He is spending all his time watching his wife walk around the village of NYM with non other than Chief Hiffa of WPD. Now there is a mortal sin, anothers guy wife?, really. Or Sergeant Soja in NYM with the guys wife from Country Club Court. Another Mortal sin how about we start calling all the kettles black. These acts are done in plain sight but I guess something of that nature is all good in Kielbasa Land. Thats just the tip of the iceberg there. As always these people of sin will flap their gums about this fallen man of god when they are the dirtiest around. Hold your tongues boys and girls or the wrath of god will befall upon you for your sins.
dres

Harleysville, PA

#30 Jan 25, 2012
Why dont you contact Bishop Cunningham and his office. They have knew what was going on but instead made Father Val the scape goat.
dres

Harleysville, PA

#31 Jan 25, 2012
You must one of the those ungreatfull people at the Church who is alway causing trouble
jmg

Syracuse, NY

#32 Jan 25, 2012
First Stoned wrote:
<quoted text> Didn't Middaugh have a lot of financial problems too? Since Maciol is not the same political party as Middaugh, maybe he can dig something up instead of the usual Oneida County Republican coverup (Hi, Mark!).
YOU are a very sick person.Kick a person when they are down
jmg

Syracuse, NY

#33 Jan 25, 2012
First Stoned wrote:
<quoted text> Didn't Middaugh have a lot of financial problems too? Since Maciol is not the same political party as Middaugh, maybe he can dig something up instead of the usual Oneida County Republican coverup (Hi, Mark!).
YOU are avery very sick person and do not knwo what you are talking about. You must be one of the couple of people from ST Mary who HATED Fr. Val.and was the one that contact the diocese to get hom outany way you ccould.
ok dres

Cortland, NY

#34 Jan 25, 2012
dres wrote:
Why dont you contact Bishop Cunningham and his office. They have knew what was going on but instead made Father Val the scape goat.
if what you say is true, do you really think the bishop is going to tell the truth? Exactly so stop with your innuendo and just say what you know about this.

lets face it father val needs all the help he can get at this point, especially with the whole florida condo thing.
First Stoned

Long Eddy, NY

#35 Jan 25, 2012
jmg wrote:
<quoted text> YOU are avery very sick person and do not knwo what you are talking about. You must be one of the couple of people from ST Mary who HATED Fr. Val.and was the one that contact the diocese to get hom outany way you ccould.
Not even a parishioner, sorry. I just happen to think there is a lot of monkey business going on in county politics & would like to see that cleaned up -- but it's unlikely while Repubs are in charge.

I'm also in pretty good health. And I can spell.
Tree Farmer

Baldwinsville, NY

#36 Jan 25, 2012
I am astonished that he was jailed. I read time and time again of worst things done and the people bake a few cookies for the food bank while on probation and its over. You dirty sin doing poles in the Mills must have pushed the issue for such a thing to happen. Well not to worry you are all sinners and will have to make up for it when you are called by the Lord. The church lady says it happens very seldom in churches. What, that does not make any sense. I think she meant it happens a lot but the church takes care of it and leaves the justice out of it. I personally know of incidents with non-priests who are big bible bangers and got the boot for being a crook. No cops called. Valentine was wrong but get real people jail?
jail is for the best

Cortland, NY

#37 Jan 25, 2012
Tree Farmer wrote:
I am astonished that he was jailed. I read time and time again of worst things done and the people bake a few cookies for the food bank while on probation and its over. You dirty sin doing poles in the Mills must have pushed the issue for such a thing to happen. Well not to worry you are all sinners and will have to make up for it when you are called by the Lord. The church lady says it happens very seldom in churches. What, that does not make any sense. I think she meant it happens a lot but the church takes care of it and leaves the justice out of it. I personally know of incidents with non-priests who are big bible bangers and got the boot for being a crook. No cops called. Valentine was wrong but get real people jail?
no one is above the law and i suspect the priests knows that as well. he did not deny anything and volunteered to start his sentence immediately.

it is a crime to steal and jail time is appropriate. imagine if he had not gotten jail time. everyone would be up in arms about it.

it sounds like the priest has already taken steps with therapy to get his life in order. the jail can be his penance and once he has paid his debt to God and society he can return to church service that does not involve money.

may God watch over father val and all of us.
Which One Is Next

United States

#38 Jan 25, 2012
jail is for the best wrote:
<quoted text>
no one is above the law and i suspect the priests knows that as well. he did not deny anything and volunteered to start his sentence immediately.
it is a crime to steal and jail time is appropriate. imagine if he had not gotten jail time. everyone would be up in arms about it.
it sounds like the priest has already taken steps with therapy to get his life in order. the jail can be his penance and once he has paid his debt to God and society he can return to church service that does not involve money.
may God watch over father val and all of us.
It is common practice to seek help when you know the sh!t is about to hit the fan ! I know a person that had 2 drug arrests in a month but check into the crooked rehab place in Utica before they had to go to court and the judge cut her a great deal because he said he could see she was trying to turn her life around . She is no better now and laughing about how she got out of it !
so your point is what

Cortland, NY

#39 Jan 25, 2012
Which One Is Next wrote:
<quoted text>
It is common practice to seek help when you know the sh!t is about to hit the fan ! I know a person that had 2 drug arrests in a month but check into the crooked rehab place in Utica before they had to go to court and the judge cut her a great deal because he said he could see she was trying to turn her life around . She is no better now and laughing about how she got out of it !
r u saying that this priest checked into rehab under false pretenses too? And you know this how? Sounds like you've been spending too much time with other lowlifes. Get off the rock chickenhead
No Saint

Utica, NY

#40 Jan 25, 2012
EZEKIEL wrote:
<quoted text>
The "real story" ? The real story is that no such article or report should have appeared in any media source. The "real story" ?, What is behind this assault on Father Val or better yet who is behind it. There is no problem with audits and investigations but there is a problem with ruining a mans name and reputation without first having concrete evidence that a wrong doing has taken place. It is not possible for any man to be redeemed after such an assault on his character even if he is found squeeky clean. I would suggest this subject be dropped until the facts are out but there is no chance of that happening on Topix. Let us remember " The mouth of the righteous brings forth wisdom, But the the perverse tongue will be cut out."
Is it okay to talk about it now? He is a convicted felon now.

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