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AOL

#1 Nov 3, 2009
Lets face it folks.... The economy is hurting local business as well as business across the country. Business owners put their hearts into what they do. Their employees become family and they take pride with what they offer. A business that can't survive in these times has nothing to do with who owns or runs them. It has to do with the RECESSION and the current ECONOMY.
Agree

Lake Placid, NY

#2 Nov 3, 2009
Chalk it up to GOP tax incentives to mega corporations. Just take a look around the area if you don't believe me. The entire consumer square was based on tax incentives for these companies. Do you think small business gets any incentives like this ? NO !

Keep voting Republican....they will fix the economy for you...one corporate donation (i mean tax incentive) at a time.
economy

AOL

#3 Nov 3, 2009
Small business get NO incentives and no help.
Mason

AOL

#4 Nov 3, 2009
Lets keep our local owned and operated businesses going. We dont get any outside help, so why help them. Us little guys will keep going , keep hireing and supporting our local communitys with your help. Forget politics because , it's all turned into crap. When has any of them really cut our taxes
In The Know

Utica, NY

#5 Nov 5, 2009
Small business in Utica, or any small city in the north east, was the backbone of the community. But over time, these small businesses, no matter what they were, have erroded, leaving empty buildings, workers displaced and a decline in services.

I was also a victim of the local economy, changing my career twice in 25 years to try to servive the local economic draught, but I just couldn't do anymore to stay in business.

I now have a good job, working for someone else, but I often think "I" did something wrong, that I could have done more.These are the same emotions that other business owners that have closed feel.

I can hang my head high that I ran 2 successful service companies for over 2 decades, only to fall victim to the economy. I try often to frequent whatever small businesses are left...but that's hard to do.
areunuts

New York, NY

#6 Nov 5, 2009
Agree wrote:
Chalk it up to GOP tax incentives to mega corporations. Just take a look around the area if you don't believe me. The entire consumer square was based on tax incentives for these companies. Do you think small business gets any incentives like this ? NO !
Keep voting Republican....they will fix the economy for you...one corporate donation (i mean tax incentive) at a time.
Keep voting for the communist socialist in power now, the new climate bill will decimate all business. How do you cut co2 by 20% you cant. They want everyone beholding to the govt we will all be on welfare and govt health care. Keep voting for the democrats.
We need a new 3rd party that cares about and listens to what the American people want and need.
Ridiculous

Boston, MA

#7 Nov 5, 2009
Agree wrote:
Chalk it up to GOP tax incentives to mega corporations. Just take a look around the area if you don't believe me. The entire consumer square was based on tax incentives for these companies. Do you think small business gets any incentives like this ? NO !
Keep voting Republican....they will fix the economy for you...one corporate donation (i mean tax incentive) at a time.
Are you kidding? Where exactly do you think we'd be without the incentives? New York, from the state all the way down to municipalities, have to offer incentives for business to locate and operate here because of over-taxation and over-regulation. We have the tax situation we do because New York never met a union or social program it didn't like. Get rid of public sector unions and their expensive benefits, don't be so generous with social programs and consolidate. If these things were done there would be no need for the incentives because businesses could make a profit without them and would be fighting for space here. The only reason we have as much as we have now is because of the incentives. Get that through your head and put the blame where it belongs.
Ridiculous

Boston, MA

#8 Nov 5, 2009
In The Know wrote:
Small business in Utica, or any small city in the north east, was the backbone of the community. But over time, these small businesses, no matter what they were, have erroded, leaving empty buildings, workers displaced and a decline in services.
I was also a victim of the local economy, changing my career twice in 25 years to try to servive the local economic draught, but I just couldn't do anymore to stay in business.
I now have a good job, working for someone else, but I often think "I" did something wrong, that I could have done more.These are the same emotions that other business owners that have closed feel.
I can hang my head high that I ran 2 successful service companies for over 2 decades, only to fall victim to the economy. I try often to frequent whatever small businesses are left...but that's hard to do.
You are certainly not alone.

Do you feel that your businesses may have succeeded long term if they had been located in another more business friendly state?

Did your businesses fail because of the economy or because the goods or services became obsolete?
Fritz

Ithaca, NY

#9 Nov 5, 2009
Ridiculous wrote:
<quoted text>
Are you kidding? Where exactly do you think we'd be without the incentives? New York, from the state all the way down to municipalities, have to offer incentives for business to locate and operate here because of over-taxation and over-regulation. We have the tax situation we do because New York never met a union or social program it didn't like. Get rid of public sector unions and their expensive benefits, don't be so generous with social programs and consolidate. If these things were done there would be no need for the incentives because businesses could make a profit without them and would be fighting for space here. The only reason we have as much as we have now is because of the incentives. Get that through your head and put the blame where it belongs.
Excellent points. Most of these economic liberals don't understand the concepts for which they advocate.
StrongDong

Dover, NH

#10 Nov 5, 2009
I own a yaht and I will fight all you hicks
In The Know

Utica, NY

#11 Nov 6, 2009
Ridiculous wrote:
<quoted text>
You are certainly not alone.
Do you feel that your businesses may have succeeded long term if they had been located in another more business friendly state?
Did your businesses fail because of the economy or because the goods or services became obsolete?
Business friendly in the sense that my customer base shrunk, which was other local businesses. If those other businesses had more of an opportunity to survive,by the area being more business friendll, then yes my chance of survival would have been greater.

The economy got worse, the businesses I dealt with suffered, I suffered. I thought of investing into another avenue of related business to help out, but then offer those services to whom? If my existing customer base was shrinking, who would want another service....vicious cycle.

I knew what I was up against, and I stuck with it, and made very very good money for a good number of years. I would have been on the outside looking in right now, if I hadn't moved on. I still long to be my own boss...tough to let go, but not in these economic times, not only here in Utica or NYS..anywhere !!!

We are a WALMART society....not an entrupenurial society as when I was brought up 40 years ago. Most area wages are based on "what Walmart pays", and we buy items compared to what Walmart charges !

The next generation has their hands full....

Since: May 14

Clifton Park, NY

#12 Jun 14, 2014
Agree wrote:
Chalk it up to GOP tax incentives to mega corporations. Just take a look around the area if you don't believe me. The entire consumer square was based on tax incentives for these companies. Do you think small business gets any incentives like this ? NO !
Keep voting Republican....they will fix the economy for you...one corporate donation (i mean tax incentive) at a time.
Might be one of the most ignorant things I've ever read here.

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