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sophia

New York, NY

#1 Jan 8, 2009
I've heard so much good about Notre Dame. Just hoping it is the truth. Gonna probably send my son there next yr. Anyone have any feedback?
Juggler

New York, NY

#2 Jan 9, 2009
The school was pretty decent in the mid-late 80's and maybe even the early 90's.

The school has had many of the same teachers for so long and the student body has changed dramatically. They need to raise their standards much higher to consider themselves a private school. Maybe a minimum score on the SSAT (secondary school admission test) would help. Then if the rich kids from NH aren't smart enough to get in their parents can make a "donation" to the school. It would do a lot to help their miserable financial situation.

At the end of the day the school is 100% better than Proctor.
mee

Oneida, NY

#3 Jan 9, 2009
Juggler wrote:
The school was pretty decent in the mid-late 80's and maybe even the early 90's.
The school has had many of the same teachers for so long and the student body has changed dramatically. They need to raise their standards much higher to consider themselves a private school. Maybe a minimum score on the SSAT (secondary school admission test) would help. Then if the rich kids from NH aren't smart enough to get in their parents can make a "donation" to the school. It would do a lot to help their miserable financial situation.
At the end of the day the school is 100% better than Proctor.
Spoken like a true "juggler". If you think a school where the teachers do not have to be certified to teach, "100% better than Proctor", then you don't have very high standards. Utica schools offer so much more than your private school. Of course, Utica schools have their issues, but what district doesn't? Other districts just don't have it plastered on the front page. And no, I did not go to Proctor.
ok then

Raleigh, NC

#4 Jan 9, 2009
There must be information out there to get a true comparison. Notre Dame students take the same standard state tests as everyone else. Compare standard test scores, graduation rates and college admission rates for an honest assessment.
flyfisher

Utica, NY

#5 Jan 9, 2009
Would never send my children to Catholic School, too much hypocrisy. Non cerified teachers. unplayable football field. Let's not forget the priests. Sorry I'll keep my boys away.
don

Bronx, NY

#6 Jan 9, 2009
The problem with "private" schools is that they do not have to admit everyone. Public schools have scores for standardized testing for all students - those who want to learn and those who don't - that does bring scores down. If you get into trouble or don't perform in a private school, they can kick you to the curb and then you go to public school.

Saw this first hand many years ago when a dad brought his sixth grader into a public school and stated he had been kicked out of catholic school because he wouldn't behave. Public school had to enroll him.
mykidsgotond

Raleigh, NC

#7 Jan 9, 2009
notre dame is top notch, not sure but I believe test scores are generally above or on average with most public schools. As far as graduation and college admission rates, I know that those rates have been around 99.8% for the last several years. athletic programs & extracurricular activities are excellent. in general most students seem to be more polite, and respectful than public school students.(not saying all ps students arent, but at nd it really stands out)
wow

Chittenango, NY

#8 Jan 9, 2009
How can you compare notre dame to proctor. There are about 2000 more kids that attend proctor than notre dame's k-12. Private schools cost to much and it not good to keep your children sheltered from the real world.
ok then

Raleigh, NC

#9 Jan 9, 2009
flyfisher wrote:
Would never send my children to Catholic School, too much hypocrisy. Non cerified teachers. unplayable football field. Let's not forget the priests. Sorry I'll keep my boys away.
What priests would that be at Notre Dame? Or is it that you are trumpeting the same old tired rhetoric from a few years ago? I think that maybe you might be interested in reading the results of a study. It's by Hofstra University researcher and education expert Charol Shakeshaft. You can read the information at http://www.hofstra.edu/News/Ur/PressRoom/pres...
In a nutshell children are sexually abused, many times over, more in public schools than in Catholic schools.
You may also want to take a look at this from the CBS new site as well. You can fool yourself if you like but the truth is the truth.
Juggler

Lake Placid, NY

#10 Jan 9, 2009
I only went to ND for a few years. There are REAL private schools all across the country that have standards (and tuition) higher than ND and Proctor combined. Look at schools like Exeter, Loomis Chaffee, or Taft. They are ultra elite and no public school in America can touch their curriculum, facilities, and reputation.

Many of these schools have endowments larger than local colleges. If you kid is smart enough, and you can't afford it, they will cover the tab. The average grant covers approximately 70% of tuition. Tuition is about 41k a year. Going to a GOOD private school sets students up for life long success.
ND Graduate

Morrisville, NY

#11 Jan 9, 2009
Since when don't the teachers have to be certified? This is news to me.(By the way this is sarcasm for those that may have missed it).
never nd

New York, NY

#12 Jan 9, 2009
private school teachers do not have to be cert. and many at nd are not. as far as grad and college percentages go, i should hope those kids go on to college. they came from good homes with professional parents. my kids go to public schools, are in many activities and have excellent grades. they tell me things that go on at nd that would knock your socks off. they want nothing to do with the place. again these are supposed to be kids from respectable families, not cornhill. be careful what you pay for.
what

Syracuse, NY

#13 Jan 9, 2009
never nd wrote:
private school teachers do not have to be cert. and many at nd are not. as far as grad and college percentages go, i should hope those kids go on to college. they came from good homes with professional parents. my kids go to public schools, are in many activities and have excellent grades. they tell me things that go on at nd that would knock your socks off. they want nothing to do with the place. again these are supposed to be kids from respectable families, not cornhill. be careful what you pay for.
id like to know what your kids are telling you, cause nothing has "gone on that will knock your socks off" that i am aware of. i am involved at nd and my kids go there. rumors most likely ?(just like most things on topix.)
St Agnes

AOL

#14 Jan 9, 2009
I'll tell ya one thing-----the Syr Diocese doesn't even wanna support the Catholic Schools anymore! They put more & more on the parents! An honest priest will even tell ya to send your kids to PUBLIC schools. The churches have to dole out "x" # of dollars towards 'supporting" catholic ed----which, the majority, DO NOT want to do!
oldshoes

AOL

#15 Jan 9, 2009
If you are looking for a real Catholic School, try the one near Oneida.
change

AOL

#16 Jan 10, 2009
back in the 70's & 80's the school was much better, i think the price they ask now is way out of reach for what they offer. maybe parents should parent better instead of depending on a school to do so.
parent of both

New Hartford, NY

#17 Jan 10, 2009
we had kids at both ND and Proctor. All enjoyed their HS years and all did well in college, however, though originally opposed to sending anyone to Proctor 'cause of the bad rap it had as an inner city school I feel the Proctor actually provided a more accepting "Christian" environment;there is far more diversity, the teachers are top notch and were more caring and personally involved in our child's education and development. Also, the curricular and extra/curricular opportunities were far superior in the public school. In sum if your child is going to do OK and has parental support and supervision they'll do OK at either...but, in my opinion, ND is just not worth the hefty cost and the education is equal if not better in the public school.
oldshoes

AOL

#18 Jan 10, 2009
parent of both wrote:
we had kids at both ND and Proctor. All enjoyed their HS years and all did well in college, however, though originally opposed to sending anyone to Proctor 'cause of the bad rap it had as an inner city school I feel the Proctor actually provided a more accepting "Christian" environment;there is far more diversity, the teachers are top notch and were more caring and personally involved in our child's education and development. Also, the curricular and extra/curricular opportunities were far superior in the public school. In sum if your child is going to do OK and has parental support and supervision they'll do OK at either...but, in my opinion, ND is just not worth the hefty cost and the education is equal if not better in the public school.
ND has bent over backwards trying to accomodate other religions that they have almost ceased to be Catholic
ND Parent

AOL

#19 Jan 10, 2009
I am very happy with Notre Dame and so is my son. UNPLAYABLE FOOTBALL FIELD?? If that's your priority, stay at Proctor. Teachers are great and very responsive. Sister Anna Mae runs a tight ship -- and there aren't any priests, so you can come out from under your security blankie.
usedtobe

Fayetteville, NY

#20 Jan 10, 2009
Used to be a good school 80's -90's....now it is a run down, behind the times, over priced school. nothing wrong with public schools.

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