Government's first duty is to protect...

Government's first duty is to protect the people, not run their lives.

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Independent

New York, NY

#1 Jul 29, 2012
Yesterday I saw a poster of a quote from Ronald Reagan that I wanted to share With those who were too young too remember or have forgotten

Government's first duty is to protect the people, not run their lives.
-- Quote by Ronald Reagan at the National Conference of the Building and Construction Trades, AFL-CIO (March 30, 1981)
Ladadee

United States

#2 Jul 29, 2012
Thank regan for junk bonds and the closings of many psychiatric institutions and corporate downsizing. clutch your shotgun tight and hold true to your republican ways, as a New Yorker ofcourse ( :
Brewster

Fort Collins, CO

#3 Oct 17, 2012
Independent wrote:
Yesterday I saw a poster of a quote from Ronald Reagan that I wanted to share With those who were too young too remember or have forgotten
Government's first duty is to protect the people, not run their lives.
-- Quote by Ronald Reagan at the National Conference of the Building and Construction Trades, AFL-CIO (March 30, 1981)
Traditional (i.e. folklore-based) views suggest this is so. But legally, constitutionally, government officials' first duty is to protect the U.S. Constitution, not the people of the U.S. It's the Constitution, not the people, that the President and members of the armed forces swear an oath to defend against all enemies, foreign and domestic. There are very specific exceptions--only one that I know of, namely that the U.S. State Department does have the duty of protecting U.S. citizens while they're abroad, and also of protecting foreign nationals visiting the U.S. But, generally speaking, Reagan was incorrect. And it's unfortunate that this idea has pervaded our national consciousness so thoroughly, because there are lots of terrified Americans who think their lives are the nation's most valuable asset, when the truth is that our system of government itself is far more precious.
bob jones

Utica, NY

#4 Oct 17, 2012
Brewster wrote:
<quoted text>Traditional (i.e. folklore-based) views suggest this is so. But legally, constitutionally, government officials' first duty is to protect the U.S. Constitution, not the people of the U.S. It's the Constitution, not the people, that the President and members of the armed forces swear an oath to defend against all enemies, foreign and domestic. There are very specific exceptions--only one that I know of, namely that the U.S. State Department does have the duty of protecting U.S. citizens while they're abroad, and also of protecting foreign nationals visiting the U.S. But, generally speaking, Reagan was incorrect. And it's unfortunate that this idea has pervaded our national consciousness so thoroughly, because there are lots of terrified Americans who think their lives are the nation's most valuable asset, when the truth is that our system of government itself is far more precious.
Very good! How do you protect our system of government from domestic terrorists disguised as politicians?
Well

Utica, NY

#5 Oct 17, 2012
Does this include protecting Americans that are too stupid to protect themselves, i.e. smoking, seat belts, etc.

KY WELLER
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Since: Jun 10

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#6 Oct 17, 2012
Well wrote:
Does this include protecting Americans that are too stupid to protect themselves, i.e. smoking, seat belts, etc.
They protect you from mayhem like me.
snah

Manlius, NY

#7 Oct 18, 2012
Nope
Dejure

Mattawa, WA

#8 Jan 17, 2013
Based on my limited understanding of law, the first duty of government is to individual liberties. That is the nature of a republic form of government, which we are guaranteed.

As such, you are right about upholding the constitution. However, this elaboration is critical to understanding how important that simple saying is and to what is wrong with this nation, as our liberties, increasingly, get lost in the forest we call the constitution.
If you had 20 20

Whitesboro, NY

#9 Jan 17, 2013
If you had 20 20 then you would see that the government doesnt give a damn about you unless you donate millions to their cause.
Well Well Well

Utica, NY

#10 Jan 17, 2013
KY WELLER wrote:
<quoted text>They protect you from mayhem like me.
Isn't that Allstate?
Well Well Well

Utica, NY

#11 Jan 17, 2013
Brewster wrote:
<quoted text>
Traditional (i.e. folklore-based) views suggest this is so. But legally, constitutionally, government officials' first duty is to protect the U.S. Constitution, not the people of the U.S. It's the Constitution, not the people, that the President and members of the armed forces swear an oath to defend against all enemies, foreign and domestic. There are very specific exceptions--only one that I know of, namely that the U.S. State Department does have the duty of protecting U.S. citizens while they're abroad, and also of protecting foreign nationals visiting the U.S. But, generally speaking, Reagan was incorrect. And it's unfortunate that this idea has pervaded our national consciousness so thoroughly, because there are lots of terrified Americans who think their lives are the nation's most valuable asset, when the truth is that our system of government itself is far more precious.
You are absolutely correct in your understanding of the government's first duty, but I propose that since FDR, government's first duty has been to perpetuate government.

KY WELLER
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Since: Jun 10

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#12 Jan 18, 2013
Well Well Well wrote:
<quoted text>
Isn't that Allstate?
Yeah

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