Common Core: What Are They Pushing?
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anon

Utica, NY

#43 Oct 7, 2013
So True wrote:
<quoted text>I know plenty and although they are dedicated to their profession, like most public servants they are spoiled and have no concept of the working world beyond the class room. Using the math example cited in an earlier response clearly shows the problem. Some how, the word "profit" has become demonized in society today. Rather than teach our children practical skills that will ensure the survival of our once great nation, we have gone way off course. Instead, we promote careers in teaching where you're done by 3 PM, have summers off etc. Maybe that's why we are failing!

http://www.cfr.org/education/us-education-sli...
I guess you should have been a teacher, then. Like all things, if you do it right it's the most difficult profession in the world. You really should stop believeng the hype and give the people in the trenches an ear...and some respect.
Strikeslip

Utica, NY

#44 Oct 7, 2013
From the link above:""The real scourge of the U.S. education system—and its greatest competitive weakness—is the deep and growing achievement gap between socioeconomic groups that begins early and lasts through a student's academic career,"

Why is the achievement gap growing when the Federal presence in our schools is greater than ever? The Federal involvement is the Cause of our problem. Instead of 50 different approaches to education where different states can learn best practices from each other, we have narrowed them down to, with the Common Core, One .... It is one that will not work and will only increase the mediocrity we complain of.

Why? Because the "new standards" implemented 15 years ago by NY and many other states, and the common Core standards now, are all about students DOING things rather KNOWING things. Students, and now their teachers, are assessed on what Students can do, not what they know. They are programmed to react to certain situations in a particular way. Whether or not they come up with the "right answer" is of little consequence as long as they do what they are told.

Common Core is designed to produce the ideal workforce: Compliant with their Masters and too Ignorant to ask questions. Look at the standards, read the agenda-driven texts and other materials. The more you get into it, the more apparent it becomes.
anon

Utica, NY

#45 Oct 7, 2013
So True wrote:
<quoted text>I know plenty and although they are dedicated to their profession, like most public servants they are spoiled and have no concept of the working world beyond the class room. Using the math example cited in an earlier response clearly shows the problem. Some how, the word "profit" has become demonized in society today. Rather than teach our children practical skills that will ensure the survival of our once great nation, we have gone way off course. Instead, we promote careers in teaching where you're done by 3 PM, have summers off etc. Maybe that's why we are failing!

http://www.cfr.org/education/us-education-sli...
And that article also notes the lack of funding for lower income students vs. higher income students.

They are comparing totally different educational systems.
wow

United States

#46 Oct 7, 2013
Strikeslip wrote:
From the link above:""The real scourge of the U.S. education system—and its greatest competitive weakness—is the deep and growing achievement gap between socioeconomic groups that begins early and lasts through a student's academic career,"

Why is the achievement gap growing when the Federal presence in our schools is greater than ever? The Federal involvement is the Cause of our problem. Instead of 50 different approaches to education where different states can learn best practices from each other, we have narrowed them down to, with the Common Core, One .... It is one that will not work and will only increase the mediocrity we complain of.

Why? Because the "new standards" implemented 15 years ago by NY and many other states, and the common Core standards now, are all about students DOING things rather KNOWING things. Students, and now their teachers, are assessed on what Students can do, not what they know. They are programmed to react to certain situations in a particular way. Whether or not they come up with the "right answer" is of little consequence as long as they do what they are told.

Common Core is designed to produce the ideal workforce: Compliant with their Masters and too Ignorant to ask questions. Look at the standards, read the agenda-driven texts and other materials. The more you get into it, the more apparent it becomes.
Sounds like Hitler youth indoctrination programming!
rampage

Rome, NY

#47 Oct 8, 2013
Truth wrote:
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Who exactly is it that you believe that is setting the standard? It isn't some clandestine, black department of government like in George Orwell's "1984".
It's educators with input from parents creating and overseeing the implementation of Common Core standard. Do you not remember and understand that the US has lost ground over the past few generations when compared with the rest of the world?
http://www.corestandards.org/resources/freque...
"Local teachers, principals, and superintendents lead the implementation of the Common Core."
Think back. Remember the No Child Left Behind program. It was designed to create a standard so that no child could be just passed through the system as was happening previously. The federal government went to state departments of education and asked them to create a program for improvement with specific benchmarks to measure progress. When the benchmark dates arrived and schools hadn't achieved the goals they themselves had set for themselves, they hated the idea and said NCLB was no good. Opposition to Common Core is mainly coming from the same place. Unions. It exposes the shortcomings in the system.
If not Common Core then what? Should we continually accept mediocrity in public education that leads to more decline when compared to other countries around the world just so teachers don't look bad? That doesn't serve future generations of children at all.
Not all people are ment to go to college. If you thought that there was a high drop out rate in the past wait and see in the next 5-6 years.
Truth

Utica, NY

#48 Oct 8, 2013
Strikeslip wrote:
Why is the achievement gap growing when the Federal presence in our schools is greater than ever?
Because the money is going for teacher and administrator compensation that includes the famous retirement packages that cost the taxpayers a fortune. At the same time it is nearly impossible to get rid of bad teachers. Sunday's OD(page 3B) had a small story that said it cost the New York City taxpayers $29 million dollars last year to pay "teachers who have been deemed too dangerous or incompetent to work in public schools".

The money is not getting to where it needs to get to.
conteisha

Syracuse, NY

#49 Oct 8, 2013
wha bout my daeter...what she gonig to now?
Its almost too late

Whitesboro, NY

#51 Dec 2, 2013
I suggest you research U.N. Agenda 21. There's an excellent video on youtube called Agenda 21 for Dummies. I suggest you watch it. This has been in the works since 1992.
george soros

Springfield, MA

#52 Dec 2, 2013
Its almost too late wrote:
I suggest you research U.N. Agenda 21. There's an excellent video on youtube called Agenda 21 for Dummies. I suggest you watch it. This has been in the works since 1992.
Can you post the link?

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