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pretend to be smart

Utica, NY

#64 Dec 17, 2013
Penal Law
Part 1 General Provisions
Title C Defenses
Article 25 Defenses in General
Article 30 Defense of Infancy
Article 35 Defense of Justification
Article 40 Other Defenses involving Lack of Culpability

40.00 - Duress.
40.05 - Entrapment.
40.10 - Renunciation.
40.15 - Mental disease or defect.
§ 40.15 Mental disease or defect.
In any prosecution for an offense, it is an affirmative defense that
when the defendant engaged in the proscribed conduct, he lacked criminal
responsibility by reason of mental disease or defect. Such lack of
criminal responsibility means that at the time of such conduct, as a
result of mental disease or defect, he lacked substantial capacity to
know or appreciate either:
1. The nature and consequences of such conduct; or
2. That such conduct was wrong.

Mental disease or defect are written all over this case.

Then there is the other issue with impartiality with this case and a conflict of interest with the DA's office. This case should have AUTOMATICALLY been given a Change of Venue.

There have been other cases, not as severe, where Mc Namara had to recuse the DA's office and have a special prosecutor appointed where the defendant in those cases were County employed. Wyman was a county employee and thus such conflict arose.
Truth

Utica, NY

#66 Dec 17, 2013
pretend to be smart wrote:
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Conflicts with the sworn testimony of the neighbor who made the call.
Look up NYS Statutes and find a defense called "insanity" and you will not find one. My point is completely valid in that it shows you have no clue what you are referring to.
Credibility=zero
All you have to do is point me to something that proves what you've said.
pretend to be smart

Utica, NY

#67 Dec 17, 2013
Truth wrote:
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All you have to do is point me to something that proves what you've said.
WKTV had interviewed the woman next door who called 911 before the girlfriend came over there.

This is also in the trial testimony.

You were already told this but have your head buried in the sand.....
reality

Clark Mills, NY

#68 Dec 17, 2013
You won't find that in your biased report that you repeatedly cite...
Truth wrote:
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Please cite a source for that. The accounts I've read have Patterson grabbing the gun and shot at Deputy Wyman after being shot with the non-lethal bean bags.
Truth

Utica, NY

#70 Dec 17, 2013
pretend to be smart wrote:
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WKTV had interviewed the woman next door who called 911 before the girlfriend came over there.
This is also in the trial testimony.
You were already told this but have your head buried in the sand.....
Show me in black and white. Give me a link to something I can read or see. Excuse me if I don't just blindly take your word for it.

What is it that makes you hate Sheriff Maciol and the Oneida County Sheriffs Department so much?
Truth

Utica, NY

#71 Dec 17, 2013
reality wrote:
You won't find that in your biased report that you repeatedly cite...
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From the report:

" The defendant was hit with two of the foam projectiles in the area of his upper body. This caused him to be pushed backward, but he was supported by the rear garage wall and he ended up in a crouched, forward facing position. Unfortunately, he still had the shotgun in his hands. Prior to the E.R.T. members advancing on his position, Deputy Wyman swept to the left and quickly advanced to the garage door opening with his taser drawn and aimed at the defendant. The defendant swung the barrel of his shotgun around, leveled it at Deputy Kurt Wyman and fired at the same moment that Wyman was firing his taser. Deputy Wyman was approximately 15 feet from the muzzle of the weapon and was immediately knocked off of his feet when fired upon. The defendant pumped the shotgun, aimed to the left of Wyman’s position and fired a second shot at Deputy Thomas Larkin who was crouched across the hood of the police car and was simultaneously returning fire at the defendant."
fcktard

Little Falls, NY

#73 Dec 17, 2013
Truth wrote:
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From the report:
" The defendant was hit with two of the foam projectiles in the area of his upper body. This caused him to be pushed backward, but he was supported by the rear garage wall and he ended up in a crouched, forward facing position. Unfortunately, he still had the shotgun in his hands. Prior to the E.R.T. members advancing on his position, Deputy Wyman swept to the left and quickly advanced to the garage door opening with his taser drawn and aimed at the defendant. The defendant swung the barrel of his shotgun around, leveled it at Deputy Kurt Wyman and fired at the same moment that Wyman was firing his taser. Deputy Wyman was approximately 15 feet from the muzzle of the weapon and was immediately knocked off of his feet when fired upon. The defendant pumped the shotgun, aimed to the left of Wyman’s position and fired a second shot at Deputy Thomas Larkin who was crouched across the hood of the police car and was simultaneously returning fire at the defendant."
Nice how the "authors" break it down in sloooooow motion. The defendant leveled his weapon..... Blahdity blahdity blah bullshit. It happened so fast nobody saw how it actually happened. The testimony given by those at the scene was COACHED. That is what took so long. They were busy writing the script for a movie rather than being factual and truthful.

Wyman had been in the military, marines I thought. So, he's been trained to FOLLOW orders. So one of two things happened shortly before he was shot. He either ignored orders to stand down, or no orders were ever given because of a total clusterfuck called Maciol and company.

The problem with ERT firing on him? Nobody was close enough to grab Patterson even if they knocked the gun out of his hands.

And this has nothing to do with hatred of anybody. It goes to show what an amateur Maciol is and never should have been elected as Sheriff in the first place. He should have stuck to handing out parking tickets in HoDunk Town. He wasn't even on the job 6 months and this is blood on his hands. There was no command at the scene. This, by all accounts was like that scene with the Weekend Warriors in the movie First Blood when they had Rambo cornered in the mine. Amateur hour......
fcktard

Little Falls, NY

#74 Dec 17, 2013
"...fired at the same moment that Wyman was firing his taser."

BS, coached testimony.
truth

Waltham, MA

#75 Dec 17, 2013
fcktard wrote:
"...fired at the same moment that Wyman was firing his taser."

BS, coached testimony.
It's funny how the sheriffs report is accepted as truth whereas Pattersons account of self defense is white washed in an area full of public servants on the dole. Leadership always starts from the top. The sheriff should resign and do the right thing.
Truth

Utica, NY

#76 Dec 18, 2013
fcktard wrote:
"...fired at the same moment that Wyman was firing his taser."
BS, coached testimony.
Obviously!(sarcasm)
Anything you don't agree with must certainly be a lie and part of the grand conspiracy(more sarcasm) orchestrated by the Oneida County Sheriff's Department, The Oneida County DA's office, WKTV, WUTR, YNN, the independent panel who produced the final report..........

Do you have tin foil on your windows or do you wear the thin foil hat?

More name calling is a nice touch as well.
Truth

Utica, NY

#77 Dec 18, 2013
truth wrote:
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It's funny how the sheriffs report is accepted as truth whereas Pattersons account of self defense is white washed in an area full of public servants on the dole. Leadership always starts from the top. The sheriff should resign and do the right thing.
A jury heard evidence from a wide variety of sources including those presented by the defense. It wasn't all just from the Sheriff's Department report. They judged Christian Patterson guilty of the crime he was charged with after taking all of the information into account.

Here is the indisputable truth. Christian Patterson refused to put an end to the situation by complying with orders to surrender and he fired the shot that killed Deputy Wyman.
pretend to be smart

Utica, NY

#78 Dec 18, 2013
Truth wrote:
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Obviously!(sarcasm)
Anything you don't agree with must certainly be a lie and part of the grand conspiracy(more sarcasm) orchestrated by the Oneida County Sheriff's Department, The Oneida County DA's office, WKTV, WUTR, YNN, the independent panel who produced the final report..........
Do you have tin foil on your windows or do you wear the thin foil hat?
More name calling is a nice touch as well.
If Wyman was running to the garage, in front of those outside, how would anybody have been able to see him firing his taser at all? They wouldn't. The comment you replied to stands, coached testimony.

As far as the jury is concerned, see above comment about the conflict of interest and change of venue. The jury was also intimidated into ruling guilty by having a courtroom chock full of uniformed deputies, which was highly inappropriate since they were off duty and should not have been in uniform at all.

Change of venue should have been the first order of business to get a fair and unbiased jury pool.

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