Ticket's in the mail: Red-light camer...

Ticket's in the mail: Red-light cameras questioned

There are 60 comments on the Santa Cruz Sentinel story from Mar 15, 2009, titled Ticket's in the mail: Red-light cameras questioned. In it, Santa Cruz Sentinel reports that:

Minutes after Neel Manglik illegally turned right on a red light in the Des Moines suburb of Clive, a video popped up on a computer at an office park outside Scottsdale, Ariz.

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Jonathan Jupp

Provo, UT

#45 Dec 4, 2009
Here is a report from Texas where accidents increased where a red light camera was placed..

Jonathan Jupp

Provo, UT

#46 Jan 12, 2010
California: Right Turn Camera Makes $1 Million a Month

It's all about cash, not safety.

Jonathan Jupp

Provo, UT

#47 Jan 12, 2010
Five Oh

Surprise, AZ

#48 Jan 12, 2010
I'm a cop and I think these red cameras are just wrong. They are just to generate $$$$ for the cities. I was driving thru Arizona and had one flash at my vehicle. I never got the ticket in the mail? There were several trucks in the number 2 lane, I was in the number 1 lane and I just got lucky.

Santa Cruz, CA

#49 Jan 27, 2010
It is 1984....

Santa Cruz, CA

#50 Jan 27, 2010
"Do the Math", you are a little man and everyone knows it, but I guess traffic violations are what keep the cops in business.
"The police won't get you anywhere little man. They can catch thieves and regulate traffic, but they can neither get you freedom nor safeguard it" -Wilhelm Reich
Ben Lomond Dude

Provo, UT

#53 Jul 31, 2010
Orange County Appellate Court rules camera evidence inadmissible.

Mr Aptos

Dublin, CA

#54 Jan 6, 2013
I beat my ticket there too. I told Mr. Eller on the phone that I have spend a few days doing research.#1-illegal contract "cost neutrality" where Capitola does not have to pay anything under $5950 per intersection to the ATS company.#2, right turn--and Eller said the judge does not like those tickets--she throws them out.#3 the time hit was less than 3/10th of a second. No human can react faster than that.
What people don't get is in California, YOU CAN FIGHT YOUR TICKET *TWICE*. Once by mail, then go to court for the second time. Heck, you can write with a crayon "not guilty" and send it in. If they don't reply in time, you got your case dismissed! But fight it and the city of Capitola contract is public info. Just call the city and get a copy. They e-mailed me a copy and I read though it. It says it plainly.
Lastly, you can say the picture is "hearsay" because an officer did NOT witness the incident. But SB 1303 just passed makes it not. However, you can find more about evidence because the police receive their photo tickets from ATS in AZ. So, a company handled it and is driving this for profit. You can show the evidence was not in the chain of custody by govt, but by private industry for profit. The list goes on and on....you can beat these tickets!
Yes, you can have your wife's car registered to you and your car registered to your wife. If they see male versus female or other way, show the judge "that's a female and I'm male". They will pressure you to say "who it is", but you don't have to say anything--another law in California that protects you and your spouse.
Someone above wrote NO ONE gets out of the tickets at 41st Ave.
WRONG! I got my case dismissed!
The contract that the Capitola PD has with ATS is ILLEGAL. Capitola will not have to pay ATS the full rent if there aren't enough fines to cover the cost.
I BEAT Eller and he was visibly PISSED.
The judge said congratulations. You are the first person to have brought this up.
It goes against California Vehicle Code section 21455.5 subsection G
G "A contract between a governmental agency and a manufacturer or supplier of automated enforcement equipment may not include provision for the payment or compensation to the manufacturer or supplier based on the number of citations generated, or as a percentage of the revenue generated, as a result of the use of the equipment authorized under this section."
If you bring this up to the judge YOU WILL BEAT IT. I DID!
DSM Local

Ankeny, IA

#55 Jan 7, 2013
Unconstitutional, all theses cameras are illegal

United States

#56 Jan 8, 2013
I made a right turn into the mall and got flashed on 12/2/12. I still haven't received the citation. How long do these take to arrive in the mail?
DSM Local

Ankeny, IA

#57 Jan 13, 2013
Angie wrote:
I made a right turn into the mall and got flashed on 12/2/12. I still haven't received the citation. How long do these take to arrive in the mail?
a week or two I heard, although the cameras don't catch everyone thank god

Pleasanton, CA

#58 Jan 17, 2013
Well it's been over 45 days! Hopefully I'm one of the lucky ones it didn't catch!

“It ain't gonna suck itself.”

Since: Nov 12

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#59 Jan 19, 2013
Like others said simply just don't respond to the "suggested fee" they send you. Legally nothing can or will be done. Even the county attorney will tell you this.

Another option to prevent even being sent a "suggested fee" is to have commercial plates. This removes a person from the registration and doesn't allow anything to be sent.

Since: Jan 13

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#60 Jan 25, 2013
It's a craaaaaaa zeeeeeeeee world.

West Des Moines, IA

#61 Jan 26, 2013
just trust the government

Santa Cruz, CA

#63 Mar 2, 2014
Just got flashed today at 41st nd claires. I was more than half way on intersection then light turned red and got flashed! I would have to slam on break and since it was rainy I did not want to slam on breaks to stop. So I proceeded in yellow with same speed, didn't speed up. I just hope i dont get ticket. Does anyone know how long does it take for ticket to come?

Santa Cruz, CA

#64 Apr 4, 2014
Clearly our government has become nothing but a money grubbing greedy whore. It is already worst than nazi germany, and the people are doing nothing, most choose to be blind to it so they can retain their comfortable lives, this is why we call you cattle or sheeple. We have 'concentration camps' they are now called school or prison
Some of you think that potheads won the war, but that is like thinking gun registration assures your continued right to have the weapon or will help reduce gun violence and crime. HOW?! All a permit or prescription does is assure the state takes your money to get your fix, and then has a list of who to visit first when they decide to reverse prior decisions. Freedom means unregulated. Permits and prescriptions are the enemy of freedom.
As for these red light cameras, I like the toilet paper wad plastered over the camera idea, that way the city & vendor waste even more energy and money constantly fixing a non-vandalized camera (vandalism requires damage, TP stuck to the lens is not damaging ...be sure to use charmin)

Oakland, CA

#66 Aug 28, 2015
If the light flashes on you on 41st ave do you get a ticket

United States

#69 Jan 18, 2016
Lynn wrote:
If the light flashes on you on 41st ave do you get a ticket
I just got one ! Urgh what to do ?? :/

Watsonville, CA

#70 May 10, 2017
I'm so mad . I just paid almost 600.00 dollars and it does not end there . Traffic school wants 3 to 100.00 online . I live my whole life 2 blocks from this new camera and I was in a yello almost half way to bring my 83 year old mom food . I've lived here 45 years and that money was important to us . Los Gatos has sign s if you run it you oay 275.00. Please text if you want to fight !!! I am willing to sue capitola for 2 months of stress and no sleep ! Now they want more , there so greedy and if they want a fight let's give it them !!!!

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