Pops

Cincinnati, OH

#17261 Jan 12, 2013
Che Reagan Christ wrote:
<quoted text>
No blame game? You seem to forget them blaming Clinton for 9/11.
Bush didn't try to circumvent the constitution? Google the Patriot Act.
Sry Che, I don't recall Bush ever blaming Clinton for 9/11. Clinton WAS blamed for NOT taking custody of Osama when the offer was made by, I think the Sudan.
And that blame was NOT made by Bush personally. The blame of Clinton directly for the destruction of the Towers was never made at all (except maybe by talking heads). The blame was Just for Osama. Your links do not dispute this claim although they were a little interesting.
Pops

Cincinnati, OH

#17262 Jan 12, 2013
LorenEberly wrote:
Earned Income Tax Credit:
The majority of Us the Government of this Representative Republic that vote and the nonvoters that sit on their dead hands and whine; reelected Obnoxious President, Governor, Representatives of US the Government, County Commissioners, Township Trustees, Mayors, City Council, School Administrators and Board Members.
That holds Union workers, consumers, taxpayers, and America’s grandchildren’s children, Government employees, Parents, Teachers, Veterans, Police, Firemen, and Fathers disqualified for affirmative action with white skin, Representatives deny Collective Bargaining Rights accountable.
To fund free tax filing for Illegal drug users and Immigrants, lottery, casino, and keno losers, unemployed Union workers replaced with nonunion workers, Human Traffickers, waitresses that pander for life for $2.00 per hour, slaves in tax abated enterprise zones, low-income child labor, consumers, and taxpayers, volunteers without wages, and nonunion workers willing to work for fewer wages than they can afford life. That pays with welfare checks, food stamps, housing vouchers, and Medicaid.
With money derived from wages (union contract), investment and independent business profit.
Loren, With all respect, how many people do you think will read & comprehend your very long posts? I have read some of them & they at times cover 2-5 topics & lose fluidity thus losing the reader at times, myself included.
IF I want to comment/reply, I & others get lost in what part we want to reply to or even what your post may be about. Please break them down a bit. I believe that You have a thought & a msg or you wouldn't be posting.
This forum allows for 4,000 characters per post & you often use well OVER 3,000. Almost a book if not a magazine. That limits communication somewhat. TYVM
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#17263 Jan 12, 2013
Pops wrote:
<quoted text>Loren, With all respect, how many people do you think will read & comprehend your very long posts? I have read some of them & they at times cover 2-5 topics & lose fluidity thus losing the reader at times, myself included.
IF I want to comment/reply, I & others get lost in what part we want to reply to or even what your post may be about. Please break them down a bit. I believe that You have a thought & a msg or you wouldn't be posting.
This forum allows for 4,000 characters per post & you often use well OVER 3,000. Almost a book if not a magazine. That limits communication somewhat. TYVM
I've tried to explain this to him many times. A good writer keeps readers hanging on every word. Loren bores people to death with his lack of brevity and his insistence of listing every person, entity or organization he's making reference to. He doesn't understand the term "We get it."

He's a self-impressed blogger that cares more about writing than he does participating in a continuing conversation and changing subjects in the middle of the topic. In short, he's annoying.
Pops

Cincinnati, OH

#17264 Jan 12, 2013
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
I've tried to explain this to him many times. A good writer keeps readers hanging on every word. Loren bores people to death with his lack of brevity and his insistence of listing every person, entity or organization he's making reference to. He doesn't understand the term "We get it."
He's a self-impressed blogger that cares more about writing than he does participating in a continuing conversation and changing subjects in the middle of the topic. In short, he's annoying.
Loren may have an IQ that would humble many if not most or be autistic or whatever but again, IF people can't comprehend the msg, the effort is for naught. Sometimes book learning overwhelms others. So be it. But then it is a waste to try to communicate with those that can not follow the messenger no matter the reason that they can't follow.
YOU have tried & I have tried. After this, I guess that we just ignore Lorens post which is NOT what Loren wants or Loren wouldn't be posting. Let's see if the msg gets thru this time.
I totally respect Lorens effort to share thoughts but if he/she can't adjust to the masses, he/she is wasting time & effort. And Loren is permitted to do that.... ignored that is. Along with wasting their time.
I can deal with that from this point on.
titonton divaunte pants

United States

#17265 Jan 12, 2013
Pops wrote:
<quoted text>There are many diffs between O & Bush. Largely involving personal character. Bush & the repubs didn't blame Clinton everyday for whatever issues were in the news day to day, Bush accepted responsibility or kept his mouth shut, NO blame game. Like his father, GHW & Reagen, when their terms were up, they shut up, unlike Carter, Clinton & we know how Obama is now & likely will be later.
Then Bush set out to strengthen the country in lawful ways, NOT try to change or circumvent the constitution.
I recall the intell compiled to justify the iraq war, was said to be collected by the "clinton" intelligence community. Up until 9-11 the economic decline was blammed on the "economic bubble" during the clinton presidency. What I've noticed is it dosent matter who the president is, they seem to do the bidding of global corporations and banks, who seem to think their escapades around the world are at the expense of the disposable united states tax payer.
http://m.youtube.com/#/watch...
titonton divaunte pants

United States

#17266 Jan 12, 2013
Bush cut taxes and spent too much. Obama promised all the health care and economic stimulus, all while balancing the budget by ending our involvement in the middle east. Both have had a majority of the elected representatives in their "party". I think democrats will win the next elections, if they can show up more than every 4 years.
titonton divaunte pants

United States

#17267 Jan 12, 2013
Once every 4 years.
titonton divaunte pants

United States

#17268 Jan 12, 2013
Anonymous of Indy wrote:
<quoted text>you got that right, the Patriot Act is a good example of circumventing the US Constitution.
what should we do about it?Certainly not what has been done over the past 4 years with the bill. obama had a chance to strike down or at least act like he had a pair and try. Instead he eagerly amends more questionable legislation to it.

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#17269 Jan 12, 2013
titonton divaunte pants wrote:
<quoted text> what should we do about it?Certainly not what has been done over the past 4 years with the bill. obama had a chance to strike down or at least act like he had a pair and try. Instead he eagerly amends more questionable legislation to it.
I know it, and just proof that both modern Republicans & Democrats see the same vision of this new Authoritarianism Society here in the United States and just have minor differences how the new Authoritariansim should be implemented which like people like Dianne Feinstein want to fast track it as implemented as fast as they can.

Authoritarianism

Authoritarianism is a form of social organization characterized by submission to authority as well as the administration of said authority. In politics, an authoritarian government is one in which political authority is concentrated in a small group of politicians. It is usually opposed to individualism and libertarianism.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authoritarianism
titonton divaunte pants

United States

#17270 Jan 13, 2013
Anonymous of Indy wrote:
<quoted text>I know it, and just proof that both modern Republicans & Democrats see the same vision of this new Authoritarianism Society here in the United States and just have minor differences how the new Authoritariansim should be implemented which like people like Dianne Feinstein want to fast track it as implemented as fast as they can.
Authoritarianism
Authoritarianism is a form of social organization characterized by submission to authority as well as the administration of said authority. In politics, an authoritarian government is one in which political authority is concentrated in a small group of politicians. It is usually opposed to individualism and libertarianism.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authoritarianism
its not authoritarian when we have a metric butt load of people who still vote for the 2 "parties", or think bush never infringed our rights, and then others who just ignore when obama does it.
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#17271 Jan 13, 2013
titonton divaunte pants wrote:
<quoted text> its not authoritarian when we have a metric butt load of people who still vote for the 2 "parties", or think bush never infringed our rights, and then others who just ignore when obama does it.
Well, we all know the left is loaded with hypocrites. Gore's organization refused to sell his worthless network to a fellow American (Glenn Beck) and instead, sold it to Al Jazeera. Not only are they supported with oil money, but his company made sure to sell it before the new DumBama tax increases. You know, Gore didn't want to pay his "fair share" and nobody on the left criticized it.

Speaking of DumBama, did you know he recently put his okie-dokie to extend the surveillance act? And then we have Gitmo plus the execution style murder of Bin Laden. Imagine the outrage on the left if Bush managed to get Bin Laden first, and then hid all evidence of his execution from the public saying he buried him at sea. While on that subject, DumBama exercised his bragging rights which led to the death of many members of Seal Team 6 when the terrorists shot down their helicopter in revenge. Barely made the MSM. And these losers reelected the guy.

I could go on and on, but the point is that it's not the action taken by a President that psses off the left, it's who takes the action. It doesn't matter if we have record deficits or the fact DumBama spent more money in three years than Bush did in eight, it's all fine as long as it's a Democrat doing it.

Hypocrites, every last one of them.

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#17272 Jan 13, 2013
titonton divaunte pants wrote:
<quoted text> its not authoritarian when we have a metric butt load of people who still vote for the 2 "parties", or think bush never infringed our rights, and then others who just ignore when obama does it.
Patriot Act is all about Authoritarianism and the next step is the worst form of Authoriatarianism which is Totaltarianism.

Totalitarianism (or totalitarian rule) is a political system where the state holds total authority over the society and seeks to control all aspects of public and private life wherever necessary.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Totalitarianism
Pops

Cincinnati, OH

#17273 Jan 13, 2013
One thing that amazes me is how some of these 'acts' passed the Supreme Court.

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#17274 Jan 13, 2013
Pops wrote:
One thing that amazes me is how some of these 'acts' passed the Supreme Court.
you got that right, can you imagine if the SCOTUS was packed with justices like Dianne Feinstein, Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, Bill Clinton & others that represent the New Left this country would be in trouble and so would the Bill of Rights.
Che Reagan Christ

Lodi, OH

#17275 Jan 13, 2013
Pops wrote:
One thing that amazes me is how some of these 'acts' passed the Supreme Court.
Interestingly, a majority of Justices on the SCOTUS were appointed by republican presidents.

“Larchmont's Leading Citizen”

Since: Dec 12

Hilliard, OH

#17276 Jan 13, 2013
Che Reagan Christ wrote:
<quoted text>
Interestingly, a majority of Justices on the SCOTUS were appointed by republican presidents.
It's become painfully obvious that nominees aren't entirely truthful when being considered for the Court. David Souter was an entirely different animal once he was appointed.
Che Reagan Christ

Lodi, OH

#17277 Jan 13, 2013
Hugh Victor Thompson III wrote:
<quoted text>It's become painfully obvious that nominees aren't entirely truthful when being considered for the Court. David Souter was an entirely different animal once he was appointed.
What were they untruthful about?

“Larchmont's Leading Citizen”

Since: Dec 12

Hilliard, OH

#17278 Jan 13, 2013
Che Reagan Christ wrote:
<quoted text>
What were they untruthful about?
Souter shifted hard to the left. That's common knowledge.
If this isn't a textbook leftist quote, I don't know what is:

In 1992's Planned Parenthood v. Casey, Souter wrote that Roe v. Wade should not be overturned because it would be "a surrender to political pressure... So to overrule under fire in the absence of the most compelling reason to re-examine a watershed decision would subvert the Court's legitimacy beyond any serious question."[12]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Souter#Pla...
Save Yourself

Canton, OH

#17279 Jan 13, 2013
Reality Speaks wrote:
<quoted text>
my came man azz prefers 80 degrees an an ocean.
been home 4 days and miss it again till next Monday.
Are you trying to tell us you came in a man's azz? Perhaps you are singing the praises of the success you are able to enjoy, thanks to our current president? Always hard to tell with you tinfoil hatters. Hey, you forgot to chalk up another miserable failure to your collection with that whole "Over the fiscal cliff we go" trip you went on there for awhile. However, my prediction that someone needs to take away your guns seems to be coming true. Now we just need to tax the churches and cut that military spending and America can get back to enjoying the undeniable prosperity like the last time a Dem was steering the ship. If you hurry, I think the Wooley Mammoth is saving a seat for you and your grand old party. Toodles.
Save Yourself

Canton, OH

#17280 Jan 13, 2013
Pops wrote:
One thing that amazes me is how some of these 'acts' passed the Supreme Court.
After they passed Citizen's United's little corporate political scheme and were caught eating dinner with the Koch brothers, the conservative Christian rightwing members of our Supreme Court have proven that they will stoop to any level for the love of money. Get it right, Pappy.

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