titonton divaunte pants

United States

#17189 Jan 5, 2013
Save Yourself wrote:
How about that fiscal cliff? How's that stock market doing? What about that housing market? Unemployment that much higher than under Reagan? Everything the GOP stands for are proven lies of the greedy and any sense that they hold any true moral Oground when it comes to the Fox News issues they love to muddy the waters with is really just more greed cashing in on the slack jawed bleary eyed flock. The only reason you tea bagging Koch wh0res feel like you had the rug pulled out from under you is because you were so used to prancing around this nation built on freedom like you had a monopoly on God and country for decades and decades.
I really think your prematurely blowing your load here. What do you think even caused the cliff?
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#17190 Jan 5, 2013
titonton divaunte pants wrote:
<quoted text> oh my, someone who hasn't gotten their talking points. I'm glad none of the stooges answered it yet. Although they usually avoid awesome facts.
Here's a hint: you guys wouldn't shut up about paul ryan cutting one of them. http://m.theatlantic.com/business/archive/201...
Now here's your talking point: its the gops fault, they voted for it. Obama and democrats had no other choice but to sign it bla bla bla....its bushes fault that obama is just like bush. Then when you get somebody like me who points all this out ( its not rocket science) and I tell you I don't vote republican, you just tell me I'm crazy. If I post more facts that prove my point, just call me more crazy and ask 2 of your friends to post the same talking points.
Very nice, but this article didn't address my question. So one more time, what middle-class programs were cut? Cut..... meaning less money appropriated towards them. Cut, as in less people able to take advantage of the program or less benefits being paid out.

What this article is about is our government programs running out of money. It's something the Republicans have been warning people about for decades. It's something the Democrats have been lying to people about for decades, telling us nothing is wrong; don't worry; it's fear tactics by the Republicans.
wow

West Union, OH

#17194 Jan 5, 2013
wonderful
crzzzd

Rochester, PA

#17195 Jan 6, 2013
titonton divaunte pants

United States

#17196 Jan 6, 2013
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
Very nice, but this article didn't address my question. So one more time, what middle-class programs were cut? Cut..... meaning less money appropriated towards them. Cut, as in less people able to take advantage of the program or less benefits being paid out.
What this article is about is our government programs running out of money. It's something the Republicans have been warning people about for decades. It's something the Democrats have been lying to people about for decades, telling us nothing is wrong; don't worry; it's fear tactics by the Republicans.
here's a better question that answers that. Are they going to stop collecting the money through pay roll taxes? NO! Will those taxes increase for all work ing americans? YES!
Democrats lie and republicans scare people? With what the truth about what's going on with ssi? That's rich.maybe rick perry...
titonton divaunte pants

United States

#17197 Jan 6, 2013
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mobileweb/2013/...
Wow look at all the new corporate tax loopholes in the "cliff deal". I'm sure we urgently needed to build a nascar track. For obamas voters.
And let's see which ones they will close, since they haven't closed any adding to the deficit problem. I bet they close some that are mysteriously just like the new ones they put in the "cliff" deal.
Besides, its not a good idea to lower the corporate tax rate just yet. Since last year was not an economic recovery ( somehow we were told that by the media untill november then it was a fiscal cliff) they actually get more back with all their little loopholes. Who knows with the new ones just added without closing the old ones, could've been planned. If they can hold off on the debt limit plan untill the irs is done with their taxes this year they might enjoy double loopholes as obama only promises to close old ones in the debt ceiling "negotiations". The fat lady has not sung.
titonton divaunte pants

United States

#17198 Jan 6, 2013
"The financial services industry, whose leaders had earlier joined a group of other corporate executives pushing for a "fair" solution to the fiscal crisis, is one of the primary beneficiaries of special-interest tax breaks. The active-financing exception, for example, permits banks like Morgan Stanley to avoid the 35 percent U.S. corporate tax rate on interest income from money lent overseas. A handful of other U.S.-based multinational companies with financing arms, such as Ford Motor Co. and General Electric, also use that exemption to lower their tax bills. The two-year cost to taxpayers is an estimated $11.2 billion, according to the congressional Joint Committee on Taxation."
http://abcnews.go.com/m/blogEntry...

Oops more like a few trillion it will cost us. Loaning all that money out at no interest, tax free? Think its gonna be paid back in inflated dollars? What did they back it with? Bad mortgages? Maybe if the euro keeps beating the dollar...oh they can pay us back in euros then.
Satanic THUGS

Athens, OH

#17199 Jan 6, 2013
I want a Governor who is honest. Kasich is FAR from honest. He supports judges and officials to work a their JOBS with NO NO NO oaths of office. I know I submitted this to John 3 times but they REFUSE to do anything which the ORC gives him COMPLETE control to do.....

They keep saying they exist and are correct but they REFUSE to give me copies which are PUBLIC RECORDS.

Therefore they are refusing the people their public records and have lost the transparency promised to "the people". We have entered the anti christs empire......
Toe

Portsmouth, OH

#17200 Jan 6, 2013
The only choice
titonton divaunte pants

United States

#17201 Jan 6, 2013
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“Meh.”

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#17202 Jan 6, 2013
titonton divaunte pants wrote:
Maybe if the euro keeps beating the dollar...oh they can pay us back in euros then.
?!

The Euro hasn't even been around the 1:1 range for the dollar in almost a decade, let alone surpassed it's value.
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#17203 Jan 6, 2013
titonton divaunte pants wrote:
<quoted text> here's a better question that answers that. Are they going to stop collecting the money through pay roll taxes? NO! Will those taxes increase for all work ing americans? YES!
Democrats lie and republicans scare people? With what the truth about what's going on with ssi? That's rich.maybe rick perry...
The Republicans are the only people being honest about SS. Democrats keep saying "Oh, don't worry about it. Everything is under control." Currently, we are paying more money out to SS recipients than we are taking in, and this slow economy for the next four years will not help much.

As much as l love the extra money, there should have never been a SS reduction in the first place. It's DumBama's way of looking good even though he is just making the problem worse for representatives in the future. Now according to many in the MSM, it's all the Republicans fault. They are more than happy to print how much it cost us when we reduce taxes for the wealthy, but never how much DumBama robbed SS by reducing deductions.

I say we pay for SS and in fact, even increase the contributions. I say we should double our contributions to Medicare as well. If people want these programs, let them pay for them. Why didn't our politicians come up with that solution? Because if we funded these programs properly, it would cause many to side with moving those programs out of government and into the private sector. Democrats will have none of that. So they lie to us and lie to us and say everything is just fine. Don't worry about it. We'll tax the rich or borrow more money.
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#17204 Jan 6, 2013
Satanic THUGS wrote:
I want a Governor who is honest. Kasich is FAR from honest. He supports judges and officials to work a their JOBS with NO NO NO oaths of office. I know I submitted this to John 3 times but they REFUSE to do anything which the ORC gives him COMPLETE control to do.....
They keep saying they exist and are correct but they REFUSE to give me copies which are PUBLIC RECORDS.
Therefore they are refusing the people their public records and have lost the transparency promised to "the people". We have entered the anti christs empire......
Trust me, that's not our biggest problem in Ohio. How honest was Strickland? He ran us into a debt of 8 billion dollars and didn't address it at all.

Now we have a governor who is honest with the people. We are broke, and something has to be done. So now we eliminated that debt and brought jobs to Ohio to the point our unemployment is well under the national level.

If you want to get rid of Kasich, start losing jobs again, start having more people out of work, go back into debt so you can get judges to take oaths of office, then nobody is stopping you. As for myself, my priorities for this state are more pragmatic. If it's not broke, don't fix it. The problem in our country is that when we get politicians that actually benefit the state or country, we throw them out of office.
Pops

Cincinnati, OH

#17205 Jan 6, 2013
Satanic THUGS wrote:
I want a Governor who is honest. Kasich is FAR from honest. He supports judges and officials to work a their JOBS with NO NO NO oaths of office. I know I submitted this to John 3 times but they REFUSE to do anything which the ORC gives him COMPLETE control to do.....

Therefore they are refusing the people their public records and have lost the transparency promised to "the people". We have entered the anti christs empire......
Do you mean like Obama's 20 something Czars & their entire support staffs? Or Obama's promised transparency that might as well be a brick wall? Or Eric Holder that ignores Federal laws as he chooses? Or even ICE that does NOT do their own lawful job? Or would it be the US Senate that has not put a single budget bill up for vote as they are OBLIGATED to do, since April 2009?
No need to go on.
And politicians wonder why they have low public esteem.

“fear thy goverment”

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#17206 Jan 6, 2013
titonton divaunte pants wrote:
What a shiddy plan. They just raised taxes on 77% of americans, cut programs that help the middle class, and it still won't be deficit neutral. Especially with all the spending. I know its republicans fault, well obama signed it too. Maybe when the deficit gets worse obama can just blame the guy who served the last term. Oh yeah.
you don't really think there are 77% of the folks in this country who earn over 450,ooo. a year do ya

“Larchmont's Leading Citizen”

Since: Dec 12

Hilliard, OH

#17207 Jan 6, 2013
fought the fat before wrote:
<quoted text>you don't really think there are 77% of the folks in this country who earn over 450,ooo. a year do ya
He's referring to the payroll tax, which returned to 6.2%. The average American worker is now taking home $38 less per two week pay period.
titonton divaunte pants

United States

#17212 Jan 7, 2013
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
The Republicans are the only people being honest about SS. Democrats keep saying "Oh, don't worry about it. Everything is under control." Currently, we are paying more money out to SS recipients than we are taking in, and this slow economy for the next four years will not help much.
As much as l love the extra money, there should have never been a SS reduction in the first place. It's DumBama's way of looking good even though he is just making the problem worse for representatives in the future. Now according to many in the MSM, it's all the Republicans fault. They are more than happy to print how much it cost us when we reduce taxes for the wealthy, but never how much DumBama robbed SS by reducing deductions.
I say we pay for SS and in fact, even increase the contributions. I say we should double our contributions to Medicare as well. If people want these programs, let them pay for them. Why didn't our politicians come up with that solution? Because if we funded these programs properly, it would cause many to side with moving those programs out of government and into the private sector. Democrats will have none of that. So they lie to us and lie to us and say everything is just fine. Don't worry about it. We'll tax the rich or borrow more money.
its supposed to be invested kinda like a govt bond (ssi) and with interest rates so low it dosent grow at a healthy rate. That's why they say there isn't enough there. I've heard maybe 2 "republicans" be honest about it. http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/t...
titonton divaunte pants

United States

#17213 Jan 7, 2013
tranpsosition wrote:
<quoted text>
?!
The Euro hasn't even been around the 1:1 range for the dollar in almost a decade, let alone surpassed it's value.
riiiiight.
titonton divaunte pants

United States

#17214 Jan 7, 2013
fought the fat before wrote:
<quoted text>you don't really think there are 77% of the folks in this country who earn over 450,ooo. a year do ya
the campaign is over. Time for the truth. No corporate loopholes closed. Higher taxes for all who pay. Austerity measures for the elderly. Its republicans fault. We urgently needed a new nascar track and they just couldn't come to an agreement on that so obama had to sign in a bunch of tax increases for the middle class and more tax loopholes for huge corporations, not touching the corporate tax rate at all. We might have went over a cliff had he not. Teeheeehe!
titonton divaunte pants

United States

#17215 Jan 7, 2013
Hugh Victor Thompson III wrote:
<quoted text>He's referring to the payroll tax, which returned to 6.2%. The average American worker is now taking home $38 less per two week pay period.
and most of them need it more than the federal reserve needs to give out loans tax free to europe. At zero interest! We need it more than corporations need more tax loopholes.

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