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xxxrayted

Brook Park, OH

#16028 Dec 19, 2012
Here are just a few stories of how armed citizens saved themselves or others:

http://www.kc3.com/self_defense/officers_peri...
Pops

United States

#16029 Dec 19, 2012
Che Reagan Christ wrote:
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How many poor, uneducated third worlders have shot up a mall, movie theater, political rally or school lately?
Can't answer that.'3rd worlders' are largely illiterate & largely have censorship. But many '3rd worlders' do have easy access to all kinds of weapons.
Pops

United States

#16030 Dec 19, 2012
Che Reagan Christ wrote:
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Guns can swim.
I guess that you are right on this one. A short time back a lot of them crossed the Rio Grande/Rio Bravo.
Che Reagan Christ

Medina, OH

#16031 Dec 19, 2012
xxxrayted wrote:
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Then it sounds pretty much anti-gun because if they claim having a gun makes it more likely to be assaulted defies logic. They must be including a lot of data from people in the commission of a crime or otherwise not legally allowed to carry a gun in the first place.
She didn't say that having a gun makes you more likely to be assaulted. She said the study said if you have a gun when you get assaulted you are more likely to get shot.
Che Reagan Christ

Medina, OH

#16032 Dec 19, 2012
xxxrayted wrote:
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Maybe somebody on the net posts their findings and you can give me that address.
It's pure logic: somebody breaks into your home with a gun, bat or knife. Are you safer with a gun or without? If somebody is out to kill you or bring you harm, how is being defenseless an advantage?
Better question: several administrators at the Conn. grade school were armed. Do you think those kids stood a better chance with an armed teacher or worse? If worse, please explain.
Most burglars, when confronted, run. Most burglars, when confronted with a gun, consider themselves to be in a self defense situation and fight back before they run. Since you love anecdotal evidence, I will say that I have never seen a home invasion that involved the discharge of a firearm other than when the homeowner had a gun too.
Che Reagan Christ

Medina, OH

#16033 Dec 19, 2012
Pops wrote:
<quoted text>Can't answer that.'3rd worlders' are largely illiterate & largely have censorship. But many '3rd worlders' do have easy access to all kinds of weapons.
What in the world are you trying to say?
Pops

United States

#16034 Dec 19, 2012
Cousin DuPrees Cousin wrote:
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Laws don't work on WingNuts either apparently.
Most criminals ARE Wingnuts..
xxxrayted

Brook Park, OH

#16035 Dec 19, 2012
Che Reagan Christ wrote:
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Most burglars, when confronted, run. Most burglars, when confronted with a gun, consider themselves to be in a self defense situation and fight back before they run. Since you love anecdotal evidence, I will say that I have never seen a home invasion that involved the discharge of a firearm other than when the homeowner had a gun too.
Now there's liberal logic for you: if an intruder sees you, he will run, but if he sees you with a firearm ready to kill him, he will attack you instead. LOL!
Pops

United States

#16036 Dec 19, 2012
Cousin DuPrees Cousin wrote:
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4-Year-Old Shoots And Kills 2-Year-Old Brother With Loaded Gun ... www.mommyish.com/2012/12/08/gun-control/
Dec 8, 2012 ... 4-year-old boy shoots and kills his 2-year-old brother.... for the gun and he and his brother (the child's father) had attended gun safety classes.
Father Accidentally Shoots 7-Year-Old, Let's Not ... www.mommyish.com/2012/12/10/gun-control-child...
Dec 10, 2012 ... Father Accidentally Shoots And Kills His 7-Year-Old Son & More Gun ... How, exactly, does one accidentally point a handgun at a child's chest while ... Gun safety classes emphasize this heavily, and they tell you never to point ...
[ More results from www.mommyish.com ]
Tragedy as Father Accidentally Shoots 7-Year-Old Son Outside ... www.theblaze.com/stories/tragedy-as-father-ac... ...
Dec 8, 2012 ...(TheBlaze/AP)-- A man's handgun went off as he was getting into ... he had taken the normally required safety course to obtain a CCL.... I'm just saying that guns mostly kill the bad guys and that incidents of guns killing kids or ...
Father fatally shoots son outside Pennsylvania gun store -... news.yahoo.com/father-fatally-shoots-son-outs... ...
Dec 8, 2012 ... Craig Allen Loughrey was shot in the chest by a handgun his father, Joseph V. Loughrey, 44,... The boy died at the scene of the shooting, which happened at 10 :50 a.m....... Pa. dad kills son in accidental shooting at gun store .... People who are trained in gun use would never allow a loaded weapon to be ...
Sad true stories. And in EVERYONE of these cases, the parent/guardian/adult should have charged with neglect, endangerment, accessory or even negligent homocide depending on applicable laws to the circumstances. And NOT plea bargained. Yes, losing your own child when the adult was stupid is of itself a serious punishment but time behind bars too will make a mental impact on others too.
Then some dumbasses may think before keeping a gun in the coffee table drawer or under their pillow or 'cleaning it' when it isn't unloaded or whatever. IF the media gives these events greater press exposure.
Pops

United States

#16037 Dec 19, 2012
Che Reagan Christ wrote:
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What in the world are you trying to say?
Your question could apply to your own post that I responded too which was off of topic. Like Comparing coconuts to bananas.
Che Reagan Christ

Medina, OH

#16038 Dec 19, 2012
xxxrayted wrote:
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Now there's liberal logic for you: if an intruder sees you, he will run, but if he sees you with a firearm ready to kill him, he will attack you instead. LOL!
It's the truth. The only people I have seen shot in home invasions were those who had guns themselves. Most times, they were shot with their own guns.

You don't like scientific studies and prefer anecdotal evidence. That's what I gave you. It seems you simply don't like information that doesn't fit your preconceived notions.
Che Reagan Christ

Medina, OH

#16039 Dec 19, 2012
Pops wrote:
<quoted text>Your question could apply to your own post that I responded too which was off of topic. Like Comparing coconuts to bananas.
My posts was in direct response to another's post. Learn to read in context. Christ.
Duke for Mayor

Akron, OH

#16040 Dec 19, 2012
Pops wrote:
<quoted text>Your question could apply to your own post that I responded too which was off of topic. Like Comparing coconuts to bananas.
I think bananas are cheaper.

woof
xxxrayted

Brook Park, OH

#16041 Dec 19, 2012
Che Reagan Christ wrote:
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It's the truth. The only people I have seen shot in home invasions were those who had guns themselves. Most times, they were shot with their own guns.
You don't like scientific studies and prefer anecdotal evidence. That's what I gave you. It seems you simply don't like information that doesn't fit your preconceived notions.
Go to Google and type in GUN and INTRUDER and tell me if that's what you see. Countless...... I mean countless stories of armed people protecting their home and family. I haven't found one yet where the story ends up with the armed homeowner assaulted while he (she) is holding a firearm.
Che Reagan Christ

Medina, OH

#16042 Dec 19, 2012
xxxrayted wrote:
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Go to Google and type in GUN and INTRUDER and tell me if that's what you see. Countless...... I mean countless stories of armed people protecting their home and family. I haven't found one yet where the story ends up with the armed homeowner assaulted while he (she) is holding a firearm.
So what? That doesn't make my anecdotes untrue.

Since: Feb 12

Location hidden

#16043 Dec 19, 2012
xxxrayted wrote:
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Maybe somebody on the net posts their findings and you can give me that address.
It's pure logic: somebody breaks into your home with a gun, bat or knife. Are you safer with a gun or without? If somebody is out to kill you or bring you harm, how is being defenseless an advantage?
Better question: several administrators at the Conn. grade school were armed. Do you think those kids stood a better chance with an armed teacher or worse? If worse, please explain.
Shooters Mother was heavily armed as we know. Did it help or hinder her survival? You could say it CAUSED her demise.

[PDF] TAKING A STAND: REDUCING GUN VIOLENCE IN OUR ... https://www.theiacp.org/LinkClick.aspx...

Bureau of Investigation data for 2006 showed gun violence rates rising for the .... means they cannot sit on their porches at night.... of crime in the 1990's by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) put the U.S. firearm homicide ..... Explosives (ATF) if multiple handgun sales are made to a single individual ...
[PDF] National Violent Death Reporting System Coding ... www.cdc.gov/ncipc/pub-res/nvdrs-coding/vs3/nv... ...- Similarto National Violent Death Reporting System Coding ...

the National Violent Injury Statistics System (NVISS) and contracted software .... Alcohol Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) trace information on firearms ... whether the person disclosed intent to die by suicide and precipitating factors.... Circumstance variables for unintentional firearm deaths are related to the context ...
xxxrayted

Brook Park, OH

#16044 Dec 19, 2012
Che Reagan Christ wrote:
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So what? That doesn't make my anecdotes untrue.
So 100 stories of people protecting themselves with firearms not being harmed for using them doesn't make your anecdotes untrue? Then what makes them true?
titonton divaunte pants

United States

#16045 Dec 19, 2012
" Liberals are going to have to decide if they’ll stick with the president if the plan he floated this week to cut Social Security benefits by switching to the so-called chained CPI becomes a reality, and it’s not an easy choice. Progressive pressure groups and lawmakers are furious with Obama for proposing the cuts, as I noted yesterday,but House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi said she’s confident that her caucus would ultimately support the plan if the president asks them too."
Mittens,paul ryan,aluminum foil hat,secondhandsmoke..........; -)
Che Reagan Christ

Medina, OH

#16046 Dec 19, 2012
xxxrayted wrote:
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Go to Google and type in GUN and INTRUDER and tell me if that's what you see. Countless...... I mean countless stories of armed people protecting their home and family. I haven't found one yet where the story ends up with the armed homeowner assaulted while he (she) is holding a firearm.
Just for a chuckle, I did what you suggested. Here is the fourth result. But I used Bing.

Rochester pastor who shot granddaughter thought she was intruder

http://www.startribune.com/local/183452611.ht...

Since: Feb 12

Location hidden

#16047 Dec 19, 2012
Pops wrote:
<quoted text>Most criminals ARE Wingnuts..
Aha! Thank you for verifying that. ;-0

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