For sale: One used but cleaner dump, includes toxic waste

Seeking new owner: A former Uniontown toxic-waste dump that is cleaner than it once was. Full Story
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Old Man Grump April 25

Akron, OH

#1 Apr 25, 2008
Yea, let's make a toxic waste dump into a nature preserve. This is just another example of how Bush_A$$'s EPA operates.

This Industrial Excess Landfill area is a danger to everyone in that entire area. The chemicals underground have caused much cancer in the Uniontown area. The ground water is contaminated forever. Health statistics show that Uniontown has one of the highest cancer rates in the state down wind of the ground water contaminated toxic waste site.

I hope Lake Topwnship isn't dumb enough to purchase this TOXIC WASTE site !!!!
Disgruntled

Shippingport, PA

#2 Apr 25, 2008
This has been a cover up since it was discovered 25+ years ago. The trustees have had their head in the sand about this and sided in with the government from the onset. What the government promised was never completed and the the problems are still there. The current trustees should name the property after the trustee who sold the people down the river so all can remember
ladybug

Albany, CA

#3 Apr 25, 2008
How can they sell the property when it's ruined? After all it is contaminated still. The property can't be built on or anything. I know it will probably never happen but since the contamination problem affected the Uniontown residents I think the property should be donated to Uniontown. If they ever turn it into a park or picnic area would it be safe for people to go there? Regardless the property isn't worth paying for now.
JDN

Columbus, OH

#4 Apr 25, 2008
OM Grump:"The chemicals underground have caused much cancer in the Uniontown area. "
From a stark county health department report available at their web site: "Based on the data available, the incidence of cancer in Lake Township from 1996 2001 is not elevated and is in fact significantly lower than would be expected for both genders."
http://www.starkhealth.org/pdfs/Cancer_LakeTw...

Since: Feb 08

Akron, OH

#5 Apr 25, 2008
ladybug wrote:
If they ever turn it into a park or picnic area would it be safe for people to go there?
Most ground and water contaminations are not dangerous to people. As long as the chemicals cannot evaporate (which many will not) and the soil is undisturbed, there is not harm. Superfunds sites regularly becomes parks, nature preserves, etc.
Old Man Grump April 25

Akron, OH

#6 Apr 25, 2008
JDN wrote:
OM Grump:"The chemicals underground have caused much cancer in the Uniontown area. "
From a stark county health department report available at their web site: "Based on the data available, the incidence of cancer in Lake Township from 1996 2001 is not elevated and is in fact significantly lower than would be expected for both genders."
http://www.starkhealth.org/pdfs/Cancer_LakeTw...
Interesting report. I scanned it this am. The only problem is everything is based on a 95% statistical confidence. The whole report falls apart if you use only the kinds of cancer related to the toxic chemicals. That shows higher then normal levels. This reminds me of the old saying: Statistics never lie but liars use Statistics.

Since: Feb 08

Akron, OH

#7 Apr 25, 2008
I guess you really did not have an "only" problem as you list two different problems. I suspect you may need to take a statistics course as you are misinterpreting the 95% confidence level. No study is ever 100% accurate as variations in data recorded always result in errors.
Old Man Grump April 25 wrote:
<quoted text>Interesting report. I scanned it this am. The only problem is everything is based on a 95% statistical confidence.
Really? Where did you get your medical degree? The report does not list any specific chemicals or correlating cancers so that statement has no basis in fact.
Old Man Grump April 25 wrote:
The whole report falls apart if you use only the kinds of cancer related to the toxic chemicals. That shows higher then normal levels. This reminds me of the old saying: Statistics never lie but liars use Statistics.
U R Correct

Norwalk, OH

#8 Apr 25, 2008
U R Correct.
Gain Some Reality wrote:
I guess you really did not have an "only" problem as you list two different problems. I suspect you may need to take a statistics course as you are misinterpreting the 95% confidence level. No study is ever 100% accurate as variations in data recorded always result in errors.
<quoted text>
Really? Where did you get your medical degree? The report does not list any specific chemicals or correlating cancers so that statement has no basis in fact.
<quoted text>
U R Correct

Norwalk, OH

#9 Apr 25, 2008
Frum-peeee--Since you lived in the Akron Area while the dump was operating, your stuff is proably in there. You know... all those paint cains, oil filters, waste oil, solvents, spray cans and other stuff you threw out of your house, not to mention where you worked as a slavemaster. Actually Goodyear, Firestone and BFG should be sueing you for cost recovery.
Old Man Grump April 25 wrote:
Yea, let's make a toxic waste dump into a nature preserve. This is just another example of how Bush_A$$'s EPA operates.
This Industrial Excess Landfill area is a danger to everyone in that entire area. The chemicals underground have caused much cancer in the Uniontown area. The ground water is contaminated forever. Health statistics show that Uniontown has one of the highest cancer rates in the state down wind of the ground water contaminated toxic waste site.
I hope Lake Topwnship isn't dumb enough to purchase this TOXIC WASTE site !!!!
Ahau Kin

United States

#10 Apr 25, 2008
The article doesn't really make clear what sort of toxins are involved. Carcinogens?

The aquifer is contaminated but may be 'cleansing itself' over time? Are we talking 'half - lives' here?

Cancer rates may or may not be elevated, depending on who's data you look at?

Make it into a nature reserve sounds like putting a big band - aid on the problem. Never mind the park has no birds and the rabbit has two heads.

Since: Feb 08

Akron, OH

#11 Apr 25, 2008
Ahau Kin wrote:
Make it into a nature reserve sounds like putting a big band - aid on the problem. Never mind the park has no birds and the rabbit has two heads.
Are you actually suggest no animals are present now? Come on, stop being so dramatic.

“Er...Protector of Free Speech?”

Since: Mar 08

The AKR

#12 Apr 25, 2008
"The idea was to keep the site as undeveloped greenspace and put park facilities, including a trail and picnic area, on adjacent land."

Hey, kids!

Let's all go down the street and have a picnic next to the old toxic waste dump! We don't even need charcoal. The burgers and dogs will cook themselves!
Disgruntled

Shippingport, PA

#13 Apr 25, 2008
Ask yourselves this question, why was the dump off limits to everyone except those that operated in hazardous materials suits. Why did they tear down all the houses around the surrounding area. Ask the EPA for the original list of chemicals that they stated were in the dump. Ask how is the methane being dealt with. These were all issues years ago and all of a sudden they are gone. The fact remains that nobody knows what is there. But ask yourselves why were the activities at the site handled very secretively and why were personnel working there in protective clothing.
Autoblogger

Youngstown, OH

#14 Apr 25, 2008
Old Man Grump April 25 wrote:
Yea, let's make a toxic waste dump into a nature preserve. This is just another example of how Bush_A$$'s EPA operates.
This Industrial Excess Landfill area is a danger to everyone in that entire area. The chemicals underground have caused much cancer in the Uniontown area. The ground water is contaminated forever. Health statistics show that Uniontown has one of the highest cancer rates in the state down wind of the ground water contaminated toxic waste site.
I hope Lake Topwnship isn't dumb enough to purchase this TOXIC WASTE site !!!!
Those plans were on the table long before BUSH. You spout off all the time blaming BUSH.

My father lives in Uniontown. Where did you get the statistics on the highest cancer rates in the state?
Old Man Grump April 25

Akron, OH

#15 Apr 25, 2008
U R Correct wrote:
Frum-peeee--Since you lived in the Akron Area while the dump was operating, your stuff is proably in there. You know... all those paint cains, oil filters, waste oil, solvents, spray cans and other stuff you threw out of your house, not to mention where you worked as a slavemaster. Actually Goodyear, Firestone and BFG should be sueing you for cost recovery.
<quoted text>
Actually lived in Uniontown from 1980 till 1994 and attended many of those toxic waste landfill meetings with the EPA and concerned citizens. Everyone there is now on city water since every well in Uniontown proper showed traces of the toxic chemicals. We all used bottled water. How about the radiation problem? They don't even address that radioactive materials are buried there. Want to get radiated? Time has not forgotten how bad this dump was and still is today. It needs to be sealed as off limits forever. Making it green space is unbelievable. Never forget what happened at the Love Canal in NY.

Since: Feb 08

Akron, OH

#16 Apr 25, 2008
Old Man Grump April 25 wrote:
Making it green space is unbelievable. Never forget what happened at the Love Canal in NY.
And you must forget that Love Canal was not green space but involved many buildings and houses.

When remediation of land occurs, you get rid of the materials that escape from the soil and become airborne. Once that is accomplished, green space is no harm to hikers or other activities.

“I'm as Mad as Hell...”

Since: Mar 07

Your Neighbor & Friend

#17 Apr 25, 2008
Sounds like it's "Dump on Grump" day on the old board.

Rather than from Akron/Cleveland/Columbus/Tallm adge/et al... I'd like to see more here from actual longtime Uniontown residents who can tell us first-hand about any or all effects.

You trust the gov'ment? Time will tell, glow worm.
TOXIC SURPRISE

Haslet, TX

#18 Apr 25, 2008
Hmmm! Looks like Mary Grimmett Trent and the Concerned Citizens were right. Good! The aquifer was contaminated, and the now they want to use it for greenspace.

It appears that there is a viable set of records that document the situation. Let me just share with you some of the records that were found. There was an aquifer bombed with choline bombs, Springfield lake was lowered by more that a foot by one company which allowed a valve to stay open, transformers filled with oils laced with PCB's, buried. PCB's went into the ditches and streams, after the transformers and soil was moved from one location to another, and men worked through the contaminated soil to removed chunks of asphalt and concrete. Radioactive materials leached into a sewer sytem, as a test. Only one problem... the sewer was crushed and broken. The same sewer overflowed. And even today, SSO's and CSO's still continue to overflow, all with a pathway to the Uniontown Dump. All with hazardous exposures tied to it. And where was the Akron Health Department and Summit County Health District? They knew. Or were they closely related?

Oh! Don't look to Trent for the records, and don't bother going to the communities involved, many of them knew about the problem and many of their records appear to be missing, but have been found. This time, by someone who was looking over their shoulders...waiting and watching. Someone who will not stop until there are answers for why this was allowed to occur,while harming the lives of innocent people.

Go ahead Akron.... sell your sewers. Maybe Summit County will buy them to hide your problem? The Executive knows, and so do his lawyers and the Mayor of Akron and his lawyers.

The new wave of the future....Sell your contaminated dirt, and don't forget to disclose it to the bank who is lending on the property.
NOpe grumPEEEE

Norwalk, OH

#19 Apr 25, 2008
Your presence explains why Uniontown is so Toxic. Dude u r a PRP and contributed to the landfill. The Rubber companies should come after your million dollar IRA and redo all the studies until your funds are exhuasted.
Old Man Grump April 25 wrote:
<quoted text>Actually lived in Uniontown from 1980 till 1994 and attended many of those toxic waste landfill meetings with the EPA and concerned citizens. Everyone there is now on city water since every well in Uniontown proper showed traces of the toxic chemicals. We all used bottled water. How about the radiation problem? They don't even address that radioactive materials are buried there. Want to get radiated? Time has not forgotten how bad this dump was and still is today. It needs to be sealed as off limits forever. Making it green space is unbelievable. Never forget what happened at the Love Canal in NY.
gEEEE grumPEEEE

Norwalk, OH

#20 Apr 25, 2008
U R not dead yet??? When grumPEEE dies, why will they bury him 30 feet into the Industrial Excess Landfill???.....because deep down, he realy is a nice guy.
Old Man Grump April 25 wrote:
<quoted text>Actually lived in Uniontown from 1980 till 1994 and attended many of those toxic waste landfill meetings with the EPA and concerned citizens. Everyone there is now on city water since every well in Uniontown proper showed traces of the toxic chemicals. We all used bottled water. How about the radiation problem? They don't even address that radioactive materials are buried there. Want to get radiated? Time has not forgotten how bad this dump was and still is today. It needs to be sealed as off limits forever. Making it green space is unbelievable. Never forget what happened at the Love Canal in NY.

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