Masons' are a Big Joke. A bunch of Id...
NoNeedForAName

Memphis, TN

#22 Aug 20, 2011
Cha Cha wrote:
But I would like to know why the 2 groups are not intergrated? Can anyone tell a believable-enough lie to explain it?
If you're looking for lies, give it up. I don't deal in that crap.

First, not all lodges are segregated. It does tend to be a little more prevalent in the South (note: this is just anecdotal. I don't have any actual stats), but there are plenty of lodges on both sides of the Mason-Dixon that aren't segregated.

Apart from that, it's mostly tradition.

Beyond that, yeah, I'm sure there are some racist Masons. But you can just deal with it. There are racist Jaycees, racist Rotarians, and racist Christians. You can't judge the entire organization based on the beliefs of a few members. If you did, you'd probably hate every organization that ever had the privilege to exist.

And if you still have a problem with segregated Masonic lodges, you'll also be happy to know that there are plenty of black and female organizations out there. You should probably have a problem with them, too.
Once Was

Millington, TN

#23 Aug 21, 2011
NoNeedForAName wrote:
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I still fail to see how this is anti-Christian, rather than simply non-Christian.
Considering your (accurate) statement that, basically, they require belief in a god, but not any particular god, I think you've just strengthened my point that the Masons don't profess to be members of the Christian faith, or for that matter, any other faith.
Freemasonry does not promote Christ or Christianity and this alone proves it is an anti-missionary cult. Freemasons are members of all the secret orders that are promoting one worldism and world unity. They are the controlling influence in the New World Order. The oaths to join this cult are bloody and filled with a confession of permission to die if they ever disclose the oath or the workings of their cult. These oaths are said to be identical to those administered in black witchcraft. Once this oath is taken, a person must agree to utter these blood oaths or they cannot join. Taking blood oaths is against the Word of God. Where in the scriptures does it even hint that a person who departs from God should have their "throat cut, their tongue torn out, their stomach ripped open and guts pulled out, and their body buried by the sea shore where the tide ebbs and flows"? The answer no where! Yet this filthy and obscene oath is required of all who join the cult. Mason's are simply a secret society. There are many secret societies still in operation today like the skull and bones, the Illuminati,the Bilderberg Group, and Opus Dei. They all have one thing in common...their leaders have strong ties to the freemasons. May I suggest that you do some research on secret societies and I think you will see that they all strive for one thing...power.
yeah

United States

#25 Aug 21, 2011
i know about the organization well and for the most part most of what has been posted is lies. Its simpley a male fraternity although they do have women who are in the eastern star. they help children and other charities within the community. its not as big a deal or sercet as people make it to be.
Rubber Duck

Monterey, TN

#26 Aug 21, 2011
Cha Cha wrote:
But I would like to know why the 2 groups are not intergrated? Can anyone tell a believable-enough lie to explain it?
Because they don't want to be integrated. Each race wants something to call their own and just leave it at that. I see you are from Martin, and probably black due to your questioning of why the Masons are not integrated.
Let me ask you a question "Cha Cha". Where does your race get off having a Black Homecoming every year. In fairness there should be a "White Homecoming". In reality if there was a "White Homecoming" the FBI, NAACP, and ACLU would be swarming on Martin like locusts looking to lock up a bunch of white folks. Can you explain that to me.
I think you need to leave the race thing alone with the Masons. Each has their own and they are both happy with it. What you need to do is not worry about what private fraternal organizations are doing and worry about your own biz.
Once Was

Millington, TN

#27 Aug 22, 2011
yeah wrote:
i know about the organization well and for the most part most of what has been posted is lies. Its simpley a male fraternity although they do have women who are in the eastern star. they help children and other charities within the community. its not as big a deal or sercet as people make it to be.
If you think the things posted are lies, then obviously you do not know that much about it. Please don't comment on subjects you are not informed about.
ImWM

San Francisco, CA

#28 Aug 26, 2011
Cha Cha wrote:
Why are the Masons not 'intergrated"?
Why do the Black Masons have their own lodges/meetings?
Why do the white masons have their own lodges/meetings?
Racism is in there hidden somewhere or the 2 groups would be one.
Both side are about promotion of their particular race, whether it be in the workplace, the community, patronizing a particular business owned by a high-ranking mason, etc..all of this is sugar-coated with chairty work and a few donations here and there...
Believe me, if this group of people were into something worthwhile and positive, they'd be intergrated and working together.....
Both groups show 'fake respect' to the other....which is hysterical when you see a black mason and a white mason talking....shoooot! you could't find 2 actors in Hollywood that could put on more believable performances.....
You couldn't be more wrong. I am the presiding officer over a Lodge that is integrated, and I have been to many other Lodges that are as well. The bond of Brotherhood that is Freemasonry extends beyond race, religion, and/or social status. However, historically, women have been excluded. This is due to the fact that men, no matter who they are, can become real jerks in the company of the fairer sex. Thus, this exclusion is intended to keep the men in the Lodge thinking with the proper 'head' during Masonic functions.
Cha Cha

Union City, TN

#29 Sep 8, 2011
ImWM wrote:
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You couldn't be more wrong. I am the presiding officer over a Lodge that is integrated, and I have been to many other Lodges that are as well. The bond of Brotherhood that is Freemasonry extends beyond race, religion, and/or social status. However, historically, women have been excluded. This is due to the fact that men, no matter who they are, can become real jerks in the company of the fairer sex. Thus, this exclusion is intended to keep the men in the Lodge thinking with the proper 'head' during Masonic functions.
(Sir, I am satisified with your explaination. You seem like you are a very decent and respectful man. Thank you :-)
Former

Newbern, TN

#30 Sep 8, 2011
Masons are a joke, really, but most people don't know what they're all about. They're evil and you would not believe what they have to swear to, it's definitely not a Christian organization, no matter what others might think or what the Masons try to make us believe. We know better! They don't pray to the same God we do. Check out some other former Masons and if they will talk at all about their experiences in that org., the honest ones will tell you some of what they're about.

I have a girlfriend whose boyfriend told her all about what everything meant, and that was when he was still involved in all of that. She told me all that stuff and I just had no idea up to that point! If I know that a guy belongs to that organization, that's it for me - a total deal-breaker.

Since: Sep 11

Union City, TN

#31 Sep 8, 2011
deathly wrote:
Most of the time, when someone bad talks the masons' the whole post gets removed. Hmm. They seem to be alright people for the most part. SOME of them take it too far, the ones that originated from the KKK. Its sad but true.
You sir or mam are an idiot..I wouldn't doubt they are the strongest, most generous organization in the Free World thus Free Masons..Way long before the KKK..They are next to Danny Thomas paying to help needy children and their families..I'm sure they would pay to teach you some learning...Can you google..Learn your facts before you post..Can you read...Library..Books..Educati on.Do you raise major money for a needy charity..I doubt it very seriously..You are probably an Al Bundy sitting on your Rent a Center Sofa with your hands in your pants..Get a life.
Once Was

Millington, TN

#32 Sep 10, 2011
angiewarner wrote:
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You sir or mam are an idiot..I wouldn't doubt they are the strongest, most generous organization in the Free World thus Free Masons..Way long before the KKK..They are next to Danny Thomas paying to help needy children and their families..I'm sure they would pay to teach you some learning...Can you google..Learn your facts before you post..Can you read...Library..Books..Educati on.Do you raise major money for a needy charity..I doubt it very seriously..You are probably an Al Bundy sitting on your Rent a Center Sofa with your hands in your pants..Get a life.
You maam are the idiot. You should follow your own advice and do some research before you show your ignorance again. Do you not realize that raising money for charities is their most affective front? They are not what you think they are. What they let the public see is totally different than what goes on behind closed doors. Why do you think they try to keep their meetings and rituals secret? If they were not doing anything wrong there would be no need to hide it. I spent years in the masons and it wasnt until I reached 32nd degree that they shared different rituals with me. Truely demonic! They are not any different than the other secret societies like skull and bones, bilderberg group, Knights Templar and Opus Dei. Do the research and you'll learn all these secret societies and either anti-Christ or demonic. And for your information, you are correct that the masons have been around longer than the KKK but did you know that masons meetings were used as KKK recruiting posts in the 1960's? And the masons let the KKK use their temples as a meeting place where they planned beatings and murders. A far cry from raising money for charities huh?
John

Beech Bluff, TN

#33 Sep 11, 2011
I am a Mason and proud of it and all of you are misinformed and wrong.We do good things for people and we are not a cult.Enough said.
Once Was

Millington, TN

#36 Sep 12, 2011
John wrote:
I am a Mason and proud of it and all of you are misinformed and wrong.We do good things for people and we are not a cult.Enough said.
You must still be in the lower levels with an opinion like that. As time goes on you will see subtle changes that should throw up some red flags if you are a christian. Time will tell.
Just Wondering

Miami, FL

#37 Sep 12, 2011
Black Baller wrote:
I use to think they were good people until I was invited to join. I went through the steps only to be black balled by a (will call her a "Lady" because I don't wanna put what she really is) When I found out this person was associated with the Masons, I was appalled. She is a known adulterer and has even lied on the stand after taking the oath to tell the truth. It's ok because if she is an example of what it means to be a Mason, I don't want any part of it.
Better get your facts straight before you start shooting your mouth off. Guess you didn't know that you will never be asked to join the Masons. That statement alone is proof that you are full of it. You probably tried to join and was rejected as unfit so now you're mad. Get over it. Try to join the Cub Scouts instead. Maybe you'll qualify for that.
A-V guest

Ocoee, FL

#38 Sep 12, 2011
Black Baller wrote:
I use to think they were good people until I was invited to join. I went through the steps only to be black balled by a (will call her a "Lady" because I don't wanna put what she really is) When I found out this person was associated with the Masons, I was appalled. She is a known adulterer and has even lied on the stand after taking the oath to tell the truth. It's ok because if she is an example of what it means to be a Mason, I don't want any part of it.
a female can never be a Mason.
John

United States

#39 Sep 15, 2011
That is very correct.Nobody invited you to join and they never will and women can be in the Eastern Star which is part of the Masonic lodge tooo
Well

Henderson, TN

#40 Sep 16, 2011
I am a eastern star and my husband is a Masons along with my grandpa who has been in for almost 50 years. Ya'll are all funny to read. But I will tell you this that all you have to do is ask a mason and they will be glad to talk to you about it. I do know that the "Holy Book" that everyone talks about is guess what? The Holy Bible and yes God is in the Masons and eastern Stars. But everyone will believe what they won't so no need in arguing over it.
Joe Dirt

United States

#41 Sep 16, 2011
"God is in the Masons". Lol. What a stupid thing to say. Now I guess you are gonna tell us that the Masons can all fly around like magic fairies too. Woohoo.
Well

Henderson, TN

#42 Sep 16, 2011
Nope never said that...Very amusing right
i dont know

Union City, TN

#43 Sep 16, 2011
why do they have those secert hand signals ?
Hiram

Newbern, TN

#44 Sep 16, 2011
Once Was wrote:
I was a Mason for several years until I did the research. They do raise money for different charities and that's what they want the public to know. However, some of the rites and rituals that are performed behind closed doors are in direct conflict with the Bible. It wasnt until I exceeded the 32nd degree that the conflicts were made known. And the bad part about this is most of the masons (32nd degree and under) have'nt learned what the true conflicts between the masons and the Bible are. Do not get sucked in to their anti Christ beliefs. Very dangerous!!!
You hit the nail on the head. I was a 32nd degree Mason until I studied the history of Masonry and found out exactly who their god was. The characters in the rituals were all of Cain's lineage and not of Adam's. Cain was the son of Satan, as is depicted in Genesis. If you have any doubt about this, look in Adam's lineage -- you will not find Cain, then look in Cain's lineage -- you will not find Adam. Chapter 4 will give Cain's lineage. Chapter 5 gives Adam's lineage. Cain is not in Adam's and Adam is not in Cain's.

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