Pirates Fired on Captain During Escape

Pirates Fired on Captain During Escape

There are 206 comments on the abcnews.go.com story from Apr 10, 2009, titled Pirates Fired on Captain During Escape. In it, abcnews.go.com reports that:

Somali pirates recaptured an American captain who tried a daring escape from their lifeboat during the night and then threatened to kill him if the U.S. Navy attempts to rescue him.

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Shady Lady

Paso Robles, CA

#213 Apr 20, 2009
All these poor people who want to think Obama sits in his office, and issues Military orders all day long are pitiful. Theankfully they are a small group who probably never served in the military, or who so badly want their cowardly President to be part of something good they are willing to hold onto anything. Obama had nothing to do with the freeing of the American Sea Captain. If he had I am sure the Captain whould have thanked him. The heros are the Navy SEALS who killed the drugged up pirates, and the Commander on sight who did issue the order to fire.

“Uzi Does It”

Since: Nov 08

UZILAND

#214 Apr 24, 2009
ZigmunnDroid wrote:
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Doors are nice, but don't forget. Israeli pilots carry guns.
No, they didn't, but they did have armed Israeli air marshals on every flight at the time as well.

http://www.ccrkba.org/pub/rkba/gt-report/Repo...

Thwarting Hijackers

Israel’s state airline, El Al, has not experienced a hijacking for 31 years. It has armed pilots, guards on each flight, and hardened cockpit doors.

According to the Wall Street Journal, one of its pilots, Capt. URI BAR-LEVI, set an example a week after hijackers seized control of four airliners over Europe and flew them to Jordan, where they blew them up. Fortunately the passengers were freed first, but only after being used as bargaining chips to force the release of Palestine Liberation Organization terrorists from European prisons.

Capt. URI BAR-LEV’s flight from Amsterdam to New York was the next hijacking target, but his bravery stopped it. Before takeoff, security agents told him of four suspicious passengers. He ejected two men in first class and searched a blonde couple in economy, then took off.

The search wasn’t good enough. When the plane reached cruising altitude, the blond man held a gun to the head of a stewardess and the blond woman pulled grenades from her brassiere. A steward attacked the man, who shot him five times.

The terrorists demanded Capt. BAR-LEV open the cockpit door. A crew member suggested he comply, because the rules said he should, in order to protect the welfare of his passengers.

Capt. BAR-LEV decided he would have no control over passenger safety if he opened the door, so he said,“Sit down, we are not going to be hijacked.”

Realizing that everyone except the hijackers and flight attendants would be strapped in, he put the Boeing 707 into a negative-G dive, just like the astronaut weightless-training airplane known as the “Vomit Comet.” Sure enough, the hijackers found themselves floating in mid-cabin, then smashed against the floor when the plane pulled up.

It was enough to allow two plainclothes El Al marshals on board to overpower them. The male hijacker was killed and the woman knocked unconscious. She turned out to be the notorious LEILA KHALED, who had hijacked a TWA plane to Damascus the previous year in a failed attempt to kidnap then-Israeli Ambassador to Washington, YITZHAK RABIN – he had changed flights.

Capt. Bar-LEV landed in London to save his bleeding steward, but police detained him and the crew for questioning in the hijacker’s death. Nobody seemed to know how he died, for the marshals had slipped out a hidden maintenance door unseen and entered an El Al flight bound for Israel by the same means.

The police finally released the crew when assured that the hijacker had not died in British airspace.

“Uzi Does It”

Since: Nov 08

UZILAND

#215 Apr 24, 2009
What is interesting from that hijack attempt is that the two of the hijackers that were kicked off the El-Al flight went "shopping" down the terminal to hijack another airliner, a U.S. one. Also interesting to note, LEILA KHALED is the woman that survived on that El-Al hijacking attempt and became a poster child for the PLO

http://www.worldproutassembly.org/images/leil...

Above is her image.
Jim

United States

#216 Apr 27, 2009
YEs

“Now thats a tin hat!”

Since: Oct 07

Blue Ridge Mountains

#217 Apr 30, 2009
Richard_ wrote:
<quoted text>No, they didn't, but they did have armed Israeli air marshals on every flight at the time as well.
http://www.ccrkba.org/pub/rkba/gt-report/Repo...
Thwarting Hijackers
Israel’s state airline, El Al, has not experienced a hijacking for 31 years. It has armed pilots, guards on each flight, and hardened cockpit doors.
According to the Wall Street Journal, one of its pilots, Capt. URI BAR-LEVI, set an example a week after hijackers seized control of four airliners over Europe and flew them to Jordan, where they blew them up. Fortunately the passengers were freed first, but only after being used as bargaining chips to force the release of Palestine Liberation Organization terrorists from European prisons.
Capt. URI BAR-LEV’s flight from Amsterdam to New York was the next hijacking target, but his bravery stopped it. Before takeoff, security agents told him of four suspicious passengers. He ejected two men in first class and searched a blonde couple in economy, then took off.
The search wasn’t good enough. When the plane reached cruising altitude, the blond man held a gun to the head of a stewardess and the blond woman pulled grenades from her brassiere. A steward attacked the man, who shot him five times.
The terrorists demanded Capt. BAR-LEV open the cockpit door. A crew member suggested he comply, because the rules said he should, in order to protect the welfare of his passengers.
Capt. BAR-LEV decided he would have no control over passenger safety if he opened the door, so he said,“Sit down, we are not going to be hijacked.”
Realizing that everyone except the hijackers and flight attendants would be strapped in, he put the Boeing 707 into a negative-G dive, just like the astronaut weightless-training airplane known as the “Vomit Comet.” Sure enough, the hijackers found themselves floating in mid-cabin, then smashed against the floor when the plane pulled up.
It was enough to allow two plainclothes El Al marshals on board to overpower them. The male hijacker was killed and the woman knocked unconscious. She turned out to be the notorious LEILA KHALED, who had hijacked a TWA plane to Damascus the previous year in a failed attempt to kidnap then-Israeli Ambassador to Washington, YITZHAK RABIN – he had changed flights.
Capt. Bar-LEV landed in London to save his bleeding steward, but police detained him and the crew for questioning in the hijacker’s death. Nobody seemed to know how he died, for the marshals had slipped out a hidden maintenance door unseen and entered an El Al flight bound for Israel by the same means.
The police finally released the crew when assured that the hijacker had not died in British airspace.
Sorry Richard, I must have mis read something.

I said Israeli pilots carry guns, apparently you said they don't. Yet the post you made claims just that. The second sentence of "Thwarting Hijackers" says "It has armed pilots,".

I assume they are armed with guns.

“Uzi Does It”

Since: Nov 08

UZILAND

#218 May 1, 2009
ZigmunnDroid wrote:
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Sorry Richard, I must have mis read something.
I said Israeli pilots carry guns, apparently you said they don't. Yet the post you made claims just that. The second sentence of "Thwarting Hijackers" says "It has armed pilots,".
I assume they are armed with guns.
1) did any firearm in the cockpit of that flight change the outcome of the flight? No?

2) other than that "article" I posted, where is the credible information stating EL-AL pilots had authority to travel the world with personal firearms?

Regardless, if we go your route, EL-AL not only had secure and defensible cockpit doors, they might have also had firearms, which means that Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton missed this when they decided to let US Airlines not be required to have these items after the Dawson's Field hijackings.

Whatever dude, 9/11, as it happened, was preventable.

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