Two reactions to Palace Hotel news

Two reactions to Palace Hotel news

There are 21 comments on the The Ukiah Daily Journal story from Aug 3, 2010, titled Two reactions to Palace Hotel news. In it, The Ukiah Daily Journal reports that:

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Eric Crane

Redwood Valley, CA

#1 Aug 3, 2010
But Eminent Domain is not about the Palace Hotel. It's about the Justice Center and Form Based Zoning on Perkins. The Palace is a great poser child but in the Eminent Domain meetings I attended it was clear to me that Staff and the Ad Hoc of Landis and Rodin were truly focused on the weapon that Eminent Domain would provide them in negotiations with other landowners. I found the meetings truly disturbing.
Mr C

Newark, CA

#2 Aug 3, 2010
I agree that the Palace should be torn down. A multi-level parking structure would be a great idea to replace it. It would certainly help with the lack of parking in the downtown area.
Jackie Childs

North Hills, CA

#3 Aug 3, 2010
The palace hotel should be the Heart of ukiah...

instead ukiah has no heart, or soul for that matter.

Its sad that the billions of $$$ that come off those hills cant/wont be used to help the city/county in any way...

More money is made in mendo and humbolt that goes to other cities and states and even countries because the people here cant get along....oh well...
Amazed

Livermore, CA

#4 Aug 4, 2010
The question is..... WHO OWNS THE PALACE?
Ukiah Pariah

San Francisco, CA

#5 Aug 4, 2010
Eladia Ganulin of Mill Valley.
Eric Crane

Redwood Valley, CA

#6 Aug 4, 2010
Mr C wrote:
I agree that the Palace should be torn down. A multi-level parking structure would be a great idea to replace it. It would certainly help with the lack of parking in the downtown area.
It is most likely not worth building a multi level structure but a ground level lot would be better than what is there.

The building has a negative economic value. It would cost so much more to fix than the property is worth it will never happen for business reasons. There are people that could fall in love with the idea but it will never make a dime. But leaving it to rot would be better than giving the RDA the Nuclear Option or Redevelopment Agency
glencoe man

Pioneer, CA

#7 Aug 4, 2010
They should also go after the previous owner who stripped the building of air conditioners and kitchen items prior the the County of Mendocino selling it for back taxes. Years ago it was said that the cost just to earthquake proof the building would cost a million dollars plus, just think what it would cost now. It was also said that the reason the building got in the shape we now see it is because welfare people were allowed to live there plus, of course, no maintenance being done and age. For those who don't know, I've never seen it, there is an under groud carriage room. The Palace at one time was a very high class place, it will be sad to see it go, but something needs to done. If destroying it is the answer then so be it.
Amazed

Livermore, CA

#8 Aug 5, 2010
I would think that some enterprising reporter would make an attempt to contact the owner, Eladia Ganulin and try to find out their side of this problem and gain some more insight.
Jackie Childs

North Hills, CA

#9 Aug 5, 2010
your gonna need tourists when the marijuana business goes east....Tourists like old west hotels.

Either start a tourist scene, with all the wineries and beautiful trees, lakes and rivers it shouldnt be hard.
advertise in westways like all the other wine producing counties do and just try to be nicer to strangers......Or your town will sink deeper into a slow death.

Your a stones throw from napa and the best restaurant in all of America (The French Laundry in yorkville), just gotta make them want to drive another 1.5 hours to see what you got....so get something.
idiots stop in Baker to see a giant thermometer that reads 120*, its not that hard.
Blackbeard

Roseville, CA

#10 Aug 5, 2010
Stealing is wrong
A Thought

United States

#11 Aug 5, 2010
Excellent thoughts. Very well laid out.

You might want to get Animal Control and the Health Department to make an inspection of the property. Reports as to their findings should prove to be interesting.

Sizmic concerns as to the publics safety should be considered. Brick unreenforced masonry buildings in sensitive public locations are or could be considered a threat to public safety. Regardless of the outcome this building should be red tagged until structurally secured. It is not if we will have the next earth quake, it is when.
River Rat

Sacramento, CA

#14 Aug 10, 2010
Ukiah Pariah wrote:
Eladia Ganulin of Mill Valley.
Everyone should learn to search this stuff out because it's all on the Internet. If an old geezer like me can find it, anyone can.

You are probably referring to Eladia Laines of Corte Madera, Broker of record for Unique Homes, formerly married to Marty Ganulin, now married to Michael Leddy, residing at 619 Manzanita Avenue in Corte Madera. However, the Palace is owned by a permanently revoked Nevada Corporation named Questex Ltd that was never registered as doing business in California. When you look at the history of Questex Ltd, it was formed in 1989 and at that time listed Andrew Fluegelman as president. Since Andrew Fluegelman died in 1985, this smells foul from the very start. At present, Nevada records show Eladia as the president of Questex Ltd. as of 2002 when its right to do business was revoked by the State of Nevada. There's also another Questex Ltd in Nevada that has nothing to do with the Palace Hotel and was formed in 2009. That Questex Ltd is current, is properly/legally registered as a foreign corporation doing business in California and is owned by a guy named James Frewin in Belmont, CA. Don't know what that's about. A good question is, how can Eladia Whatever-her-name-is transact any business regarding the Palace Hotel when she can't legally represent Questex Ltd any more (since 2002). You can look up the records at Mendocino County easily enough and everything else is on the Internet. A title company will give anyone a free preliminary title report and everything is there.

I used to live in Ukiah and still go there on weekends a lot. The Palace it a pit and the people who allowed it to sit there for the last 20 years should be made accountable, take responsibility and do the right thing.
River Rat

Sacramento, CA

#15 Aug 10, 2010
Amazed wrote:
I would think that some enterprising reporter would make an attempt to contact the owner, Eladia Ganulin and try to find out their side of this problem and gain some more insight.
Why don't other Ukiah property and business owners band together and file a motion for declaratory relief to determine who really does own the Palace? Then file a lawsuit against the real owner (probably Eladia after you tunnel through the paperwork maze) for their negligence in maintaining the property in spite of many promises to develop it which has resulted in diminished values and returns for neighboring property and business owners. It's California. You can sue anybody for anything. I'll bet she's been sued before.
Blackbeard

Gilroy, CA

#16 Aug 11, 2010
Just go to the county office and see who has been paying the taxes if you want to know the owner of the property. I would bet money that the owner has a beef with the planning department and so chooses not to do anything. Bet?
River Rat

Sacramento, CA

#17 Aug 11, 2010
Blackbeard wrote:
Just go to the county office and see who has been paying the taxes if you want to know the owner of the property. I would bet money that the owner has a beef with the planning department and so chooses not to do anything. Bet?
If someone files a motion for declaratory relief to ask the court to define who the real owner is, the entity who paid the taxes has a case for establishing adverse ownership. The best part about any legal action is the discovery process which can bring a lot of questions and documents, including tax records, into the open. Eladia Laines' tax records might be far more interesting than the property tax records. I'll bet the beef isn't with the planning department.
Blackbeard

Sacramento, CA

#18 Aug 12, 2010
River Rat wrote:
<quoted text>
If someone files a motion for declaratory relief to ask the court to define who the real owner is, the entity who paid the taxes has a case for establishing adverse ownership. The best part about any legal action is the discovery process which can bring a lot of questions and documents, including tax records, into the open. Eladia Laines' tax records might be far more interesting than the property tax records. I'll bet the beef isn't with the planning department.
I am not an attorney nor do I care about meddling in other peoples financial matters. I find nothing interesting about going through other peoples documents. I have however spent time searching out property owners and information as it relates to purchasing property. Generally the person paying the taxes owns the property. If the taxpayer has a case for adverse ownership then they can be considered the owner. Right? I have to admit the comment about the planning department was simply a restatement of a comment made by a realtor years ago in response to my inquiry about the building at the time.
black bart

Martinez, CA

#19 Aug 12, 2010
the palace hotel is a landmark. i have been around here for
40 years. i remember when it was a thriving, hotel, restaurant and bar (the black bart room)......there was even a time that red lights shone from some of the hotel windows after dark (prostitutes)..it is also rumored that it is haunted... inside used to be a very unique floor plan......the palace needs to be restored as it has a large history within itself. tear it down and ukiah would be losing an integral piece of its' past..........
some of you new people should do some research on the history of this building before you tear this "eyesore" down..........
Koalabear2525

Oakland, CA

#20 Aug 12, 2010
where is that new court house going to be at ? by the airport ? by the jail ?
Angela Hooper

Dixon, CA

#21 Aug 12, 2010
I disagree completely. The Palace Hotel is part of our history. It was here when my grandpa came over from Italy in the very early 1900's. Certainly something can be done to preserve it given its historical significance to our city.
Angela Hooper-Ukiah born

Dixon, CA

#22 Aug 12, 2010
We have already lost the Redemyer House and the Old High School. Lets not allow this to happen to the Palace Hotel also.

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