Save Richardson Grove

Save Richardson Grove

There are 120 comments on the Eureka Times Standard story from Aug 6, 2010, titled Save Richardson Grove. In it, Eureka Times Standard reports that:

Recently, I drove home to Ferndale from Sonoma County. Since the last time I made this 101 drive, someone had stretched a banner between two redwood trees at the southern entrance to Richardson Grove.

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Caltrans is corrupt

Sunnyvale, CA

#41 Aug 7, 2010
Jeff Muskrat wrote:
You are right! Caltrans is corrupt:
http://saverichardsongrove.blogspot.com/2010/...
3 charged with Caltrans bribery scheme
Bob Egelko, Chronicle Staff Writer
San Francisco Chronicle July 29, 2010 06:12 PM Copyright San Francisco Chronicle. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.
Friday, July 30, 2010
(07-29) 18:12 PDT SACRAMENTO -- Two Bay Area contractors were charged Thursday with bribing a Caltrans supervisor in Stockton to win state transportation contracts, federal prosecutors said.
A federal grand jury in Sacramento indicted Siavash "Mike" Poursartrip, 56, and Sara Shirazi, 52, both of Walnut Creek, along with the Caltrans employee, Clint Gregory, 48, of Sacramento, on charges of bribery, bid-rigging and fraud, U.S. Attorney Benjamin Wagner's office said.
Prosecutors said Poursartrip and Shirazi gave Gregory money, a Persian rug, a cell phone and other gifts to win contracts for their firm, InfoTek Associates. InfoTek's website describes it as an Oakland company specializing in software and communications.
Each contract was worth less than $131,000, but Caltrans lost a total of more than $1.2 million, prosecutors said.
They said the defendants also paid straw bidders to sidestep a Caltrans rule that at least two contractors must compete for each project.
E-mail Bob Egelko at begelko@sfchronicle.com.
This article appeared on page C - 4 of the San Francisco Chronicle
The corruption is also close to home.

A local Caltrans senior construction engineer had his driveway paved by a local contractor who was also the contractor on a local construction project under the Caltran's engineer's responsible management. A change order in the amount of some $20,000 for what reason remains unclear, was signed without queston by the Caltrans senior engineer. Pay-off for his driveway being paid perhaps?

Don't expect an internal investigation. The managment at Caltrans is a tight-knit group.
Harry

United States

#42 Aug 7, 2010
green piece wrote:
I am glad we have something to unite against again. Since the days of Hurwitz we have lacked a force to unite against. Now we see the truth. The STATE has no regard for this sacred land, mother nature, or the PEOPLE of this area. It is a slap in the face to think they can improve our road like this for the sake of people makeing more money. We are just fine how things are and we don't need some outside force shoving their agenda down our throats. The ugly truth is:
Cal Trans = MAXXAM
We need to do everything we can to stop this travesty against the earth.
But we can not stop there. We need to REMOVE the vile concrete from the roots of these ancient trees. For almost one hundred years they have been on the verge of death due to our careless treatment of mother nature and NOW is the time to reclaim the grove.
On Labor Day, September 6th we will reclaim the grove. Show up at dawn with pick-axes, shovels and determination. With enough blessed souls we can remove the stain that is the 101 from the "heart" of the grove.
If you are not all talk you will help us reclaim the grove for real.
Are you with me?
:)
Jim

Montgomery, WV

#43 Aug 7, 2010
This is the kind of letter I see more and more of in today's world. If I read this correctly, here's the basic translation, " I do not live here, I do not choose to be part of this community, but I will shove my opinions down your throat based on an idealistic sign illegally hung and a walk thorugh the woods". Nice. We the lifelong residents get to pay higher prices for everything as well as decrease our safety so tourists can feel good.
The Redwood Summer protest was a great example. I live near the site of the Hydesville protest and had illegally parked cars block my driveway, trash thrown in my yard by "environmentalists" as well as some class act individual that chose to pee on my fence in broad daylight. Nice. Please let me know when the next protest takes place, I have the towing company on speed-dial.
Montana

United States

#44 Aug 7, 2010
I agree with Jeff.
There is no reason to cut any trees. If the old growth isnt being cut (and those are the ones that are hit all the time) then why bother?
I see large trucks going through there every day. People can slow down for a few miles and enjoy the view!
Spend the money on the schools!
Blue laker2

Eureka, CA

#45 Aug 7, 2010
Mcdude wrote:
I read the project report; "rip the heart of the park out?", your heart must be an object in your nose. They will do little harm to the park or the old growth trees.
This is OUR LAND! And I will fight to the death to protect it. Learn the facts, read the plan, you're ignorant!
Blue laker2

Eureka, CA

#46 Aug 7, 2010
Check your facts wrote:
Just cut the trees down, there is nothing the useless hippies can do after that.
Really? Who the hell are you? Louisianna? Aren't you cleaning up the devastation from BP? Maybe you should shut up and take an interest in your own crisis. You're an idiot. WAKE UP!
James P

United States

#47 Aug 7, 2010
Mcdude is IGNORANT!!!!! And a pig. No offense meant to livestock.
Blue laker2

Eureka, CA

#48 Aug 7, 2010
Chuck Finley wrote:
<quoted text>
Hey, JamesQ, can you tell me or show me please which of the trees that will be cut are 1000-2000 years old? And how many? Can't, can you. Hysterical friggin' weenie.
You're ignorant. By diameter alone the trees can be dated to at least 1000 years to 2000 years old. Perhaps you should take some forestry courses in order to be educated on the subject. The project can be found online at the EPIC website. Read for yourself, or can you read corporate planning documents?
James P

United States

#49 Aug 7, 2010
Check your facts-you should check your facts. You are fool to assume that a person is a hippie because they want so save the land. You don't know jack.
Reality Checker

Petaluma, CA

#50 Aug 8, 2010
Thank you for writing this. The highway needs to cross the river and leave the heart of this park out it, period!
Ponder z

Eureka, CA

#51 Aug 8, 2010
Ooops that should be

Pave Richardson Grove
Harry

United States

#52 Aug 8, 2010
Ponder z wrote:
Ooops that should be
Pave Richardson Grove
:)
Harry

United States

#53 Aug 8, 2010
Reality Checker wrote:
Thank you for writing this. The highway needs to cross the river and leave the heart of this park out it, period!
Get the road out of the park altogether! Labor day, be there with shovels, pry bars and picks to remove 101 from the park. Restore the road to no road at all. We can all collect some forest duff and spread it where the road has been removed at the end of the day on Labor Day.

There is no money to move the road across the river and more trees would be cut to move the road anyway. Bell Springs Road is a fine alternate to Richardson Grove 101. The Usal Road is too, got 4 wheel drive?

Since: Jun 10

Schuylkill Haven, PA

#54 Aug 8, 2010
Lefty wrote:
<quoted text>
Small businesses DO ship out inventory, and they DO need raw materials to produce products. Currently they must hire a shorter truck to haul past Richardson Grove, then they stop at trucking terminals to unload their goods and reload them into the STAA legal trucks that are the standard. They will profit because there are fewer short trucks available so they pay a premium to hire them, then they have to pay again to unload/load another truck. This also increases shipping time, so fresh food goods are becoming less fresh. We produce beer, wine, cheese, and produce here that could be shipped out and thereby produce local jobs.
No old growth will be cut, few trees of any size will be cut, and the old growth roots will be protected. A licensed arborist will be there at all times, and I am sure protestors as well so how are they going to hurt the roots? They won't.
Pot won't be illegal and profitable forever. We need income to stay here and live where we love to be.
This "Save Richardson Grove" farce hurts legitimate environmental causes so I wish you would do something useful for the redwoods like fight global climate change. Or fight against plastic that pollutes our oceans and kills wildlife. Or work to remove invasive species in our forests. etc. etc. etc.
Very good point Lefty but saving our planet starts at home. Richardson Grove is not the choke point it's made out to be. I know of several local businesses that have never had to off load to another truck and they say it's a bankrupt argument.

You obviously have taken Cal Trans' bait and swollowed the hook, line and sinker. Your state paid licensed arborist will be wearing a blindfold and earplugs. The old growth redwoods will fall like dominoes. You can focus on plastic and we'll focus on R.G.

See all you concerned citizens on Sept. 6.
Freethinker

Menlo Park, CA

#55 Aug 8, 2010
Caltrans is corrupt wrote:
<quoted text>
The corruption is also close to home.
A local Caltrans senior construction engineer had his driveway paved by a local contractor who was also the contractor on a local construction project under the Caltran's engineer's responsible management. A change order in the amount of some $20,000 for what reason remains unclear, was signed without queston by the Caltrans senior engineer. Pay-off for his driveway being paid perhaps?
Don't expect an internal investigation. The managment at Caltrans is a tight-knit group.
I don't know if there was an internal investigation, but I do know the guy was either fired or forced to resign. It does sicken me to know that this man retains his license. Ethical violations of this sort are grounds for terminating an engineer's license and I don't know why it wasn't pursued in this case. Professional licensees in all fields should be held to the highest ethical standards.
CPetersen

Arcata, CA

#56 Aug 8, 2010
Phil Rudd wrote:
Thanks for starting a whole new round of hysterical slobbering about 15 trees. They grow back. Get over it. If you don't like the road don't drive on it. Put your little ChiComm paper hat on and pedal your little sissy bike in the dirt. I drive through there and I want the road fixed. So there. But you'll probably void the wishes of the people by using the tried and true progressive tool: a slimy judge.
Actually I'd be one of those "sissy bike riders" myself, but widening a few turns here and there makes it safer for everybody, in particular cyclists, motorized or just good old pedals.

Conversely, a friend of mine is a owner-operator of a trucking company. He makes his living off a single trailer (he has two he can pull). His can make it through the trees, but is not allowed as either trailer is over the length limitations. He's mentioned several times to me that there is business to be had here hauling anything but can't due to the asinide NIMBY restrictions, so he hauls anywhere else in the country except in Humboldt. So that means no one here can get full shipments of anything, no walmart involved at all.
CPetersen

Arcata, CA

#57 Aug 8, 2010
Blue laker2 wrote:
<quoted text>
This is OUR LAND! And I will fight to the death to protect it. Learn the facts, read the plan, you're ignorant!
Actually it belongs to everyone, since it's STATE land that happens to be located here.
Harry

United States

#58 Aug 8, 2010
CPetersen wrote:
<quoted text>
Actually it belongs to everyone, since it's STATE land that happens to be located here.
You are correct. The "public right of way" is indicated on the CalTrans maps with adjoining land ownership. All you have to do is READ the alignment proposal available online. I would imagine everyone on this opinion site have access to the internet?

Since: Jun 10

United States

#59 Aug 8, 2010
Jeff Muskrat wrote:
This is an illegal highway project for a two mile section of Redwood Highway 101 that proposes to remove 54 trees as well as cut, fill, compact and/or pave over the roots of 66 Redwoods 3 to 18 feet diameter! It is against Federal law to alter State Parks. Proposed root excavation is up to 5 feet deep. It's a well known fact that redwood root systems are very shallow.
Caltrans even admits in the DEIR and FEIR that the project may have detrimental effects to the trees and surrounding natural community.
How can you dispute that fact if even Caltrans admits it? Have you read either environmental impact report? I didn't think so.
Resorting to attacks on "hippies" and "enviros" will not win this argument. The facts will speak for the trees. And so can you.
Visit saverichardsongrove.org and saverichardsongrove.blogspot.com for info and how you can get involved right now.
Nicely said Jeff. Thanks for taking all the B.S. out of the conversation.

Since: Jun 10

United States

#60 Aug 8, 2010
Check your facts wrote:
Just cut the trees down, there is nothing the useless hippies can do after that.
Enjoy your oil slick and we'll protect the redwoods.

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