Pinoleville casino approved

The Senate first approved it in 2009 and now the Assembly on Monday ratified a gaming agreement between the Pinoleville Pomo Nation and the state. Full Story
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Noone

Ukiah, CA

#1 Jan 27, 2010
We have dope, now we have a in town casino, now all we need is a brothel. Man what a classy place this is turning into. Here I thought this lumber and farming community that I moved to 20 years ago would never amount to anything when the logging turned to crap and the farmers didn't have buyers for their crops. Now I see the light.
Ex-Ukiahian-Alas ka

Anchorage, AK

#2 Jan 27, 2010
Noone wrote:
We have dope, now we have a in town casino, now all we need is a brothel. Man what a classy place this is turning into. Here I thought this lumber and farming community that I moved to 20 years ago would never amount to anything when the logging turned to crap and the farmers didn't have buyers for their crops. Now I see the light.
Back in the early days Ukiah did have a brothel. It was run by a woman named Madge. The bar was on the 2nd level, that way they didn't have any fu**ing overhead.
bada boom

San Francisco, CA

#3 Jan 27, 2010
What a nice intersection this is gonna be! The industrial park and a casino. Its already a mess trying to leave with all the mill and industrial park traffic. Now we need a casino on the south end of town.
Paul O

San Leandro, CA

#4 Jan 27, 2010
I am glad this place is getting built. You just about got all of grammy's money. This should get the rest. Thanks.
SENSIBLE JUAN

Covelo, CA

#5 Jan 27, 2010
good use for the old masonite plant ... Indian Gaming and Costco bulk buying .....
not happy

Hayward, CA

#6 Jan 27, 2010
Like we need another casino.....
Sacto to Ukiah

San Jose, CA

#7 Jan 27, 2010
Sweet!!! Finally if you gamble away your car your still close enough to town to walk home. Oh wait, that's not actually a good thing. I wish the tribes would actually look for some other endeavor besides building yet another casino. Heck, maybe the tribe could open a real business that actually produces a product, instead of more debt for those unfortunate enough to have a gambling problem. Wouldn't it be a nice change of pace if a tribe opened a solar panel manufacturing or distribution company and actually trained those that are in the tribe with a valuable job skill.
Consequences

Winslow, AZ

#8 Jan 27, 2010
Being approved is one thing. Finding money to build it is another. There are many casinos in close proximity. State casino revenue is down. Doesn't look like a good opportunity for profit, so lenders may be skittish on this one.
mendo girl

Ukiah, CA

#9 Jan 27, 2010
Pinoleville reservation is the DIRTIEST reservation around. Plenty of disease going on there.
Sgt Pepper

San Francisco, CA

#10 Jan 27, 2010
Oh good... more infighting amongst the tribal elders.

Hey... maybe they get approval for alcohol/bar upstairs and the factions can really fight over the casino...!
Keeping it real

Healdsburg, CA

#11 Jan 27, 2010
We cant get a Costco but we can build another casino?? Keep your casinos on the rez... No one benefits from these establishments. The city doesn't even get any money from this.... but they (UPD) are the first ones called when people are slinging dope and getting outta hand at your F*n casinos!! Pretty soon you will start stealing and embezzling from it, you people are greedy and will never succeed cause you really don't want good for your own kind. I've seen all these local casinos go down hill because its all about power, not the people, kids or even education.
Sillymike

San Francisco, CA

#12 Jan 27, 2010
What a way to finish trashing the north side of town...
Powder

Sausalito, CA

#14 Jan 27, 2010
Enjoy what night sky we have left. The light pollution will further obliterate the view of the stars.
Disenrolled member

Hayward, CA

#15 Jan 27, 2010
Is it a coincidence that they "once members" who were AGAINST a casino, just happened to be the ones that were disenrolled?! How can my brother and father still be on the roll, but my aunts and myself have been removed?!! Everytime I call the tribal office, I NEVER get a phone call back!
ewind

United States

#16 Jan 27, 2010
Sacto to Ukiah wrote:
Sweet!!! Finally if you gamble away your car your still close enough to town to walk home. Oh wait, that's not actually a good thing. I wish the tribes would actually look for some other endeavor besides building yet another casino. Heck, maybe the tribe could open a real business that actually produces a product, instead of more debt for those unfortunate enough to have a gambling problem. Wouldn't it be a nice change of pace if a tribe opened a solar panel manufacturing or distribution company and actually trained those that are in the tribe with a valuable job skill.
This casino which Pinoleville will be building will bring jobs,tourist dollars to the community and be a major part of future econonmic developement for the tribe and the community as whole. Many tribes throughout the country use the revenues from casinos to expand. Tribes know all to well that diversity in investments leads to prosperity. This is a great location and is much better than the impacts caused by casinos located in rual zoned areas. The impacts from the Pinoleville will aid in the countys need bring jobs,tourist dollars,increased housing for low income familys and improved community infastructure and vital economic growth.
Disenrolled member

Hayward, CA

#18 Jan 27, 2010
ewind wrote:
<quoted text> This casino which Pinoleville will be building will bring jobs,tourist dollars to the community and be a major part of future econonmic developement for the tribe and the community as whole. Many tribes throughout the country use the revenues from casinos to expand. Tribes know all to well that diversity in investments leads to prosperity. This is a great location and is much better than the impacts caused by casinos located in rual zoned areas. The impacts from the Pinoleville will aid in the countys need bring jobs,tourist dollars,increased housing for low income familys and improved community infastructure and vital economic growth.
Pinoleville has been getting NON GAMING funds for almost 10 yrs now! Why hasnt any of this been done yet? Because we have a corrupt greedy council stealing money for vacations and travel. This is a very terrible move on their part. It wont last trust me...I have 1st hand experience.
Sacto to Ukiah

San Jose, CA

#19 Jan 27, 2010
ewind wrote:
<quoted text> This casino which Pinoleville will be building will bring jobs,tourist dollars to the community and be a major part of future econonmic developement for the tribe and the community as whole. Many tribes throughout the country use the revenues from casinos to expand. Tribes know all to well that diversity in investments leads to prosperity. This is a great location and is much better than the impacts caused by casinos located in rual zoned areas. The impacts from the Pinoleville will aid in the countys need bring jobs,tourist dollars,increased housing for low income familys and improved community infastructure and vital economic growth.
Name for me just one Indian Casino that has provided long-term funds for the local county or city. I was there when Thunder Valley was built in Rocklin and once construction ended there was little to no improvement in revenue to the county. On the other hand, the technology companies that built R&D and Support Centers in Rocklin do provide significant revenue to the county, both in property taxes and the well paid employees buying locally providing additional revenue through sales taxes.
Sacto to Ukiah

San Jose, CA

#20 Jan 27, 2010
Have any of the California Indian Tribes looked at any of the business models that some other tribes across the country have used instead of casinos?

Try checking out http://www.hochunkinc.com/ for an option that truly provides good jobs and a better future for any tribe.
Nation LOL

Oakland, CA

#22 Jan 27, 2010
I guess I'll declare my house a "nation" and set up a casino, too. If the Pinoleville Indians are a "nation," then what is a "tribe"?
Involved

Orinda, CA

#23 Jan 27, 2010
ewind wrote:
<quoted text> This casino which Pinoleville will be building will bring jobs,tourist dollars to the community and be a major part of future econonmic developement for the tribe and the community as whole. Many tribes throughout the country use the revenues from casinos to expand. Tribes know all to well that diversity in investments leads to prosperity. This is a great location and is much better than the impacts caused by casinos located in rual zoned areas. The impacts from the Pinoleville will aid in the countys need bring jobs,tourist dollars,increased housing for low income familys and improved community infastructure and vital economic growth.
Oh really, just how many jobs will it bring in? Tourists? They bus people in and spend their time at the casino and then head home. How does that bring money in to local businesses? Increased low income housing? Where, on the res? Housing there is already subsidized by the government. How many of these reservations that have casinos have started turning down the money they get from there? Show me where these improvements have come on the casinos that have already been built. Housing there seems to have not changed at all. You can make this argument all you want but it doesn't seem to hold water in my view.

I am not against indian casinos, I just feel that there are too many of them here in Mendocino County. You can get to at least 9 of them within an hours drive (not all in the county but 7 are), how many do they need? Sooner or later you are just cutting smaller pieces of the same pie. I know that some good does come out of the casinos but it's hard to see. Now to put one so close to the city? Who does this help other then to line the pockets of the "elders" who run it. Thats whats its about pure and simple, don't try and white wash it.

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