Letterkenny Army Depot workers face layoff, rehire as one contract expires and another begins

Work continues as usual at Letterkenny Army Depot despite contractors warning the state that they may lay off about 350 temporary employees. Full Story
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Judge Smailes

Chambersburg, PA

#2 Jun 3, 2011
A lot of current Tiburon employees hope that they don't get the new contract. They have not given a pay raise in 2 years. The cost of health insurance for a family has gone from $130.00 to $309.00 a pay. ( every 2 weeks ) How is someone making $15.00 an hour going to support a family paying that much for insurance. The biggest problem with Tiburon is that they have no job bidding system in place. Once you are placed in a job, you are stuck there. This is wrong. All open positions should be displayed on a bulletin board and employees should be able to apply for them and have them filled by qualification. Tiburon is paid over $100.00 per hour per employee and the level of support that the employee receives is pathetic. It is time for them to go.
Frank

Shippensburg, PA

#3 Jun 3, 2011
The contractor's there bawl around and complain about everything, they always whine around about gov. workers not doing there share. Well there are way too many contractors to start with, the Depot needs to cut the contractors in half all the have to do is make the ones that are left do a little more, It is a joke the way people stand around with nothing to do there.
Bobbie

Bowie, MD

#4 Jun 3, 2011
Gov workers r a joke... Worthless... Just get rid of them an things will run fine
sick of you

Chambersburg, PA

#5 Jun 3, 2011
Frank wrote:
The contractor's there bawl around and complain about everything, they always whine around about gov. workers not doing there share. Well there are way too many contractors to start with, the Depot needs to cut the contractors in half all the have to do is make the ones that are left do a little more, It is a joke the way people stand around with nothing to do there.
Let me guess.....your last name is Snyder
Bobbie

Bowie, MD

#6 Jun 3, 2011
No....let me guess your a gov worker...But anyway are they laying off or what
Embedded Citizen

Hagerstown, MD

#7 Jun 3, 2011
Back the truck up.
Just yesterday, the headline read "Letterkenny Army Depot's jobs outlook stable heading into this year's Business Opportunity Showcase".
Are they playing some kind of three card monte game out there now?
GladToBeEmployed

Gettysburg, PA

#8 Jun 3, 2011
itty bitty minds out here on this forum.. GROW UP. It's a manager's thing when workload is imbalanced among the gov/contract workers. Blame them, not the workers.
Jim Bob

Landisburg, PA

#9 Jun 3, 2011
First of all the government does not pay $100. per hour for contractors it's about one third of that, if they paid that much you all would be government. second just as many contractors slack off as the few government workers that do it, now as they fear losing thier jobs it will be just like the L3 turn over like they did 3 years ago. They just became workers for Dyna Corp, no one lost thier jobs. This time I think we will see some lose thier jobs because the government want to weed out some bad apples. so we will all keep pushin on with little change.
Embedded Citizen

Hagerstown, MD

#10 Jun 3, 2011
You mean there are absolutely no manpower quotas on how many gub'ment vs contract workers are allowed to work on a contract?
If there are manpower quotas, how can "managers" work outside the contract and still keep within the projects' personnel costs?
GladToBeEmployed wrote:
itty bitty minds out here on this forum.. GROW UP. It's a manager's thing when workload is imbalanced among the gov/contract workers. Blame them, not the workers.
Frank

Shippensburg, PA

#11 Jun 3, 2011
The government workers will be there long after the worthless contractors are gone. CAN't wait untill they get rid of ALL contractors and pfi'ers. Most of them are worthless!!! And No my last name is NOT Snyder.
CHBG

Chambersburg, PA

#12 Jun 3, 2011
Unlike the Government UNION workers, contracted workers either do their share and more or they are removed. There have been layoffs in the past 6 months that have not been reported by the PO because they have not been large in number. But I can assure you they weed out employees who are continuouly late and take off excessively when they do their "mini" layoffs. GOV/UNION employees are generally not mandated to work OT and if they are you can be assured they are screaming to their union reps. No one believes the contracted employees are the slackers! They will never get rid of the contractors because more work is done with them there! Give it a rest!
Frank wrote:
The government workers will be there long after the worthless contractors are gone. CAN't wait untill they get rid of ALL contractors and pfi'ers. Most of them are worthless!!! And No my last name is NOT Snyder.
Bobbie

Bowie, MD

#13 Jun 3, 2011
No it over paid gov worker.... Actually u work for the contractors n the taxes we pay.... Think about it
apw9957

Hanover, PA

#14 Jun 3, 2011
As your Operations Manager,I am truly saddened to read your comments.
Let me also correct some of your inaccuracies. A lot of employees who talk to me are praying that Tiburon is successful in its bid for the contract. Our employees have recieved a cost of living increase in the past but we have been unable to continue this as we have a pay freeze in the government sector as ordered by the President.
I have no idea how you believe that we are paid over $100.00 per employee. I can assure you and will swear on the Holy Bible in Court that we are NOWHERE near that figure. Out of the money we do get we also provide our employees with all of our benefits such as Health Insurance.
On that subject,Tiburon can no longer continue to pick up the bulk of employee insurance contributions. Our cost have increase significantly over this past year and regretfully we have to pass some of these costs onto the employee. The figure has increased from $175.87 to $309.48. The total cost is more that twice what you pay!! Tiburon still pays a large portion of these costs. Tiburon has NO CONTROL over these increases. As this is a national hot button item in politics I would suggest that you take it up with your appointed Representative/Senator.We also provide employees with 2 paid weeks of vacation, 10 paid national holidays, Short and Long Term disability, Life Insurance, Long Term Care and give 3% to your 401K. I believe this to be a generous package.
As regards job opportunities our website is being upgraded but in the meantime I would recommend that you do what most people do when they see me walking around the shop floors, they ask me if they can be considered for whatever position comes up next or what they would like to do. Sometimes I can meet their expectations and sometimes not. I am also restricted by the contract on what I can or cannot do.As regard support to our employees I and our supervisory/ofice staff are always available to assist whenever we can.
Finally, It you are that dissatisfied with working for Tiburon you always have the option of taking your talents to another organization. The choice is yours but the grass is not always greener on the other side.
Judge Smailes wrote:
A lot of current Tiburon employees hope that they don't get the new contract. They have not given a pay raise in 2 years. The cost of health insurance for a family has gone from $130.00 to $309.00 a pay.( every 2 weeks ) How is someone making $15.00 an hour going to support a family paying that much for insurance. The biggest problem with Tiburon is that they have no job bidding system in place. Once you are placed in a job, you are stuck there. This is wrong. All open positions should be displayed on a bulletin board and employees should be able to apply for them and have them filled by qualification. Tiburon is paid over $100.00 per hour per employee and the level of support that the employee receives is pathetic. It is time for them to go.
shipp

Chambersburg, PA

#16 Jun 3, 2011
To apw I agree. i am a former tiburon employee and have just went to government not long ago. If you go to work do your job. I have found that they let you alone like anywhere else. i was a factor worker on a production line for 20 years. this is nothing compared to that. I myself have never been treated any different. Honestly, if you make things difficult, things are difficult. Have a positive attitude and maybe things will change for you folks that are having issues. Just think you could be on the other end. In a chesse and milk line.
gva-80

Hanover, PA

#17 Jun 3, 2011
WELL SAID apw9957... WELL SAID!!!:)
Bobbie

Breezewood, PA

#18 Jun 3, 2011
Government worker that can't spell cheese...typical....
Bobbie

Breezewood, PA

#19 Jun 3, 2011
As for Apw9957 u need to talk more about the future of your employees are we getting laid off or what's goin on cause the article in the PO really didn't make sense...
Bobbie

Breezewood, PA

#20 Jun 3, 2011
According to the paper the Tiburon painters are to change contractors June 15 can anyone tell me if this is correct... Thanks
apw9957

Hanover, PA

#21 Jun 3, 2011
Bobbie wrote:
As for Apw9957 u need to talk more about the future of your employees are we getting laid off or what's goin on cause the article in the PO really didn't make sense...
In the article Mr Sheffield states "that there is no draw down of employeees". APW9957
Bobbie

Breezewood, PA

#22 Jun 3, 2011
Thank you apw9957.. but what about the painters

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