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Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel

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HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#74637 Jun 23, 2014
Frijoles wrote:
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When you follow the commandment not to dress like a man, do you only do that in Jerusalem? Or in Jamaica as well?
Do your masters teach you anything? Do they know anything about the Tanakh?

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

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#74638 Jun 23, 2014
HughBe wrote:
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Is THAT idiot really making such a STUPID comparison? It seems that Eric's bad "stick" have INJECTED even more stupidity into you than what was there before.
Lesson: The TEMPLE and the sacrifices were to be DONE in JERUSALEM or the place where God chose to put His name.
The dress code was applicable THROUGHOUT the ENTIRE land of Israel and outside of it.
So you are personally DECIDING which mitzvot are to be performed WHERE?

Who died and made you G-d?
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#74639 Jun 23, 2014
Frijoles wrote:
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So you are personally DECIDING which mitzvot are to be performed WHERE?
Who died and made you G-d?
God made me your god. Besides, it is God Almighty that COMMANDED where the sacrifices were to be performed it was not lord HughBe.

Finally, any idiot knows that a great many of the commandments were applicable to the entire nation regardless of where they lived. So therefore, don't floc your neighbour's wife was operational in the land of Judah, in the land of Reuben etc. the sacrifices and the gathering for the feasts were a totally different thing.

Send your masters/rabbis to me so that they may get proper schooling. Why? they are the only credible sources for Judaists. So I shall instruct them and they in turn you.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

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#74640 Jun 23, 2014
HughBe wrote:
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God made me your god. Besides, it is God Almighty that COMMANDED where the sacrifices were to be performed it was not lord HughBe.
Finally, any idiot knows that a great many of the commandments were applicable to the entire nation regardless of where they lived. So therefore, don't floc your neighbour's wife was operational in the land of Judah, in the land of Reuben etc. the sacrifices and the gathering for the feasts were a totally different thing.
Send your masters/rabbis to me so that they may get proper schooling. Why? they are the only credible sources for Judaists. So I shall instruct them and they in turn you.
I am not any idiot. All I know is what I read. Nowhere in my text does it say that the negative commandments are particular to certain geographies. However, it is fair to interpret. But the question, by what AUTHORITY do you based YOUR interpretations on? Surely not the text. As it is not clear in many matters.

Thats the crux of my line of questioning towards you. You pick some commandments, you ignore others. Some you delegate to certain geographies, some you don't. Sometimes the text provides you hints, sometimes it doesnt. However, regardless, you are constantly claiming authority here with no consistent reasoning. That is ILLOGICAL. Making one wonder, who is the IDIOT here, you or me? I dont claim to omnipotent in those matters, but you do.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#74641 Jun 23, 2014
Frijoles---I am not any idiot.

HughBe--- Correct, you are a special one.

Frijoles--- All I know is what I read.

HughBe--- Try reading the Tanakh and read with UNDERSTANDING.

Frijoles---Nowhere in my text does it say that the negative commandments are particular to certain geographies. However, it is fair to interpret.

HughBe--- Did I say otherwise? So don't floc your neighbour's wife is it limited to geography?

Frijoles---But the question, by what AUTHORITY do you based YOUR interpretations on? Surely not the text. As it is not clear in many matters.

HughBe--- I accept the plain words that are SURELY in the Tanakh and even those at the LOWEST point on the average intelligence scale can understand the plain words of scripture.

Frijoles---Thats the crux of my line of questioning towards you. You pick some commandments, you ignore others. Some you delegate to certain geographies, some you don't.

HughBe--- All BS

Frijoles---Sometimes the text provides you hints, sometimes it doesnt. However, regardless, you are constantly claiming authority here with no consistent reasoning. That is ILLOGICAL.

HughBe----When the words could NOT be simpler I don't seek to reason them out. I accept them just the way they are.

Take your time and give your INTERPRETATION to the following plain words. Reason them out Einstein.

"These are the decrees and laws you must be careful to follow in the land that the Lord, the God of your ancestors, has given you to possess—as long as you live in the land.....
you are to seek the PLACE the Lord your God will CHOOSE FROM among ALL your tribes to put his Name there for his dwelling. To THAT PLACE place you must GO there bring your burnt offerings and SACRIFICES, your tithes and special gifts, what you have vowed to give and your freewill offerings, and the firstborn of your herds and flocks."

Frijoles---Making one wonder, who is the IDIOT here, you or me? I dont claim to omnipotent in those matters, but you do.

HughBe--- Who is or are the IDIOTS ? ALL who are in your state.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#74642 Jun 23, 2014
Dr. Flocer, see you later.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#74643 Jun 23, 2014
HughBe wrote:
HughBe--- I accept the plain words that are SURELY in the Tanakh and even those at the LOWEST point on the average intelligence scale can understand the plain words of scripture.
Frijoles---Thats the crux of my line of questioning towards you. You pick some commandments, you ignore others. Some you delegate to certain geographies, some you don't.
HughBe--- All BS
Frijoles---Sometimes the text provides you hints, sometimes it doesnt. However, regardless, you are constantly claiming authority here with no consistent reasoning. That is ILLOGICAL.
HughBe----When the words could NOT be simpler I don't seek to reason them out. I accept them just the way they are.
Take your time and give your INTERPRETATION to the following plain words. Reason them out Einstein.
"These are the decrees and laws you must be careful to follow in the land that the Lord, the God of your ancestors, has given you to possess—as long as you live in the land.....
you are to seek the PLACE the Lord your God will CHOOSE FROM among ALL your tribes to put his Name there for his dwelling. To THAT PLACE place you must GO there bring your burnt offerings and SACRIFICES, your tithes and special gifts, what you have vowed to give and your freewill offerings, and the firstborn of your herds and flocks."
Frijoles---Making one wonder, who is the IDIOT here, you or me? I dont claim to omnipotent in those matters, but you do.
HughBe--- Who is or are the IDIOTS ? ALL who are in your state.
Sorry I dont do bastardized translations in English. When you know what it says int he actual language, maybe I will grace you with my conversation.

Hows that wave offering doing?

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#74644 Jun 23, 2014
HughBe wrote:
Frijoles---Nowhere in my text does it say that the negative commandments are particular to certain geographies. However, it is fair to interpret.
HughBe--- Did I say otherwise? So don't floc your neighbour's wife is it limited to geography?
.
Thats the point. You make ASSUMPTIONS. So, the question, is why can YOU make assumptions, but you will not respect the assumptions of others (such as the rabbis of the Talmudic period).

Who made you the lord only?

We are making baby steps, here.

Since: Jan 14

Location hidden

#74645 Jun 24, 2014
HERETICAL RABBIS SHOULD BE PUT TO DEATH

Despite the Tanach being pure devilish BS, yet it derives its authority direct from its G-d who revealed the teachings to the patriarchs.

In this sense, the Tanach is the unalterable word of this G-d and there's no provision in the scripture that permits future modifications of its contents..

Rabbis have no authority to make changes in any of the Tanach's original teachings or to introduce new ones.

Unlike the patriarchs, Rabbis don't have a direct connect with this G-d.

Picking and choosing and deleting and modifying and reinterpreting verses from the Tanach are heresy and those rabbis who have done so should according to the Torah be put to death by stoning.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#74646 Jun 24, 2014
What the Tanach says in the original language or in translated versions is the same unadulterated devilish BS which none except idiots can deny.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#74647 Jun 24, 2014
FANATICAL VERMIN

Fanatical vermin like Frijoles make up the usual silly excuse of saying that the Tanach should be read in the original language before they can enter into debate with others. These brainless vermin say this since they don't want to be confronted with all the devilish BS found in the Hebrew Bible but what is forgotten in the bargain is that the original language too recounts the same evil that is found in say its English translation and besides the scripture has been translated into several languages by rabbis or Jewish scholars themselves and in these authorized versions, too, we read the same devilish BS.

Since: Jan 14

Location hidden

#74648 Jun 24, 2014
I have never been among the B'nai B'rith, but it is said that they have an occult teaching regarding their origin and nature that is similar to voodoo.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#74649 Jun 24, 2014
Frijoles---Sorry I dont do bastardized translations in English.

HughBe--- Is that what you are calling the English translation done by your rabbis or masters at Chabad?

Your rabbis BASTARDIZED translation is below, explain the words and tell me where the firstborn should go for sacrifices, offerings, tithes etc.

Hint: Is it America, land of Reuben, land of Issachar, land of Dan, land of Manasseh or is "THE PLACE which the Lord your God shall CHOOSE from ALL your tribes, to set His Name there; you shall inquire after His dwelling and COME there."

Where is the PLACE that the Lord CHOSE?

What does COME THERE mean?

Deuteronomy 12
"These are the statutes and ordinances that you shall keep to perform in the land which the Lord God of your fathers gives you to possess all the days that you live on the earth........TO THE PLACE which the Lord your God shall CHOOSE from ALL your tribes, to set His Name there; you shall inquire after His dwelling and come there. And THERE you shall BRING your burnt OFFERINGS, and your SACRIFICES, and your TITHES, and the separation by your hand, and your VOWS and your DONATIONS, and the FIRSTBORN of your CATTLE and of your sheep And THERE you shall EAT BEFORE the Lord, your God, and you shall rejoice in all your endeavors you and your households, as the Lord, your God, has blessed you."

Frijoles----Hows that wave offering doing?

HUghBe--- Based on the texts above from the Complete Jewish Bible you tell me where the wave offering ceremony would be performed. Is it in the PLACE where the Israelites were COMMANDED to GO TO?

Based on the passage above what is your misunderstanding of "THERE you shall EAT BEFORE the Lord"? Where would they go to be BEFORE the Lord?

Have you given your wave offering to the priests?

Have they waved it BEFORE the Lord?

Does BEFORE the Lord mean in the land of Dan?

Finally, like Eric you are clueless as to what yo are asking and are both dim-witted idiots.

Since: Jan 14

Location hidden

#74650 Jun 24, 2014
FOR JEWS MONEY-MAKING IS INBORN:

One day, a kindergarten class teacher asked her class of 5 years olds about who was be the most famous man in the whole of history.

Many said Chengiz Khan, Abe Lincoln, Mahatma Gandhi, Mao, Pele and Adolf Hitler.

The teacher said, "wrong".

Finally, it was the turn of a cute Jewish boy born in the subcon region who's never eaten non-vegetarian food since age 2 due to an allergy which makes him ill if he happens to consume even a bit of meat, fish or eggs. He boldly stood up and said: "The most famous man in the whole of history is Jesus Christ."

The Christian teacher was thrilled and awarded him the prize of honor with $100 for giving out the "correct" answer.

Later, in the day, when the intrigued teacher asked the boy: "J, you, being a Jew, why did you say that Jesus, the enemy of the Jews, is the most famous man in history for which you were awarded the first prize that carried a cash award of the equivalent of $ 100?"

J, the cute 5 year old, smiled and winked and replied: "Madam, in my heart I know the most famous man in history is Moses but I deliberately said Jesus knowing the answer would fetch me the first prize with the $100; business is business. Making tons of money is in my blood."

(smiles)

Since: May 14

Location hidden

#74651 Jun 24, 2014
JOEL wrote:
FANATICAL VERMIN
Fanatical vermin like Frijoles make up the usual silly excuse of saying that the Tanach should be read in the original language before they can enter into debate with others. These brainless vermin say this since they don't want to be confronted with all the devilish BS found in the Hebrew Bible but what is forgotten in the bargain is that the original language too recounts the same evil that is found in say its English translation and besides the scripture has been translated into several languages by rabbis or Jewish scholars themselves and in these authorized versions, too, we read the same devilish BS.
What an ignorant statement...check out Matthew 22:44 see the link below and see why the original is the ONLY way to understand the Hebrew bible.

http://outreachjudaism.org/psalm110/

The many false translations are the reasons Jews reject Jesus..here's another...

http://outreachjudaism.org/septuagint-virgin-...

Since: May 14

Location hidden

#74652 Jun 24, 2014
JOEL COOL DUDE wrote:
I have never been among the B'nai B'rith, but it is said that they have an occult teaching regarding their origin and nature that is similar to voodoo.
'It is said'

I bet you swallow
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#74653 Jun 24, 2014
Where's Hugh, the jet black eunuch? LOL.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#74654 Jun 24, 2014
Frijoles---Nowhere in my text does it say that the negative commandments are particular to certain geographies. However, it is fair to interpret.

HughBe--- Did I say otherwise? So don't floc your neighbour's wife is it limited to geography?

Frijoles---Thats the point. You make ASSUMPTIONS.

HughBe--- Specify the assumptions. Explain, did I say otherwise.

Frijoles---So, the question, is why can YOU make assumptions, but you will not respect the assumptions of others (such as the rabbis of the Talmudic period).

HughBe--- I have made NO assumptions. It is difficult for an honest person like me to respect blatant dishonesty. It is also difficult for a person like me who God Himself has blessed with wisdom and good sense to think much of the nonsensical doctrines of men like your masters.

Frijoles---Who made you the lord only?

HughBe--- I don't know about the ONLY part.

Frijoles---We are making baby steps, here.

HughBe--- Indeed, you are always making baby steps. I look forward to the day when your steps become that of an adult.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#74655 Jun 24, 2014
scirocco wrote:
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What an ignorant statement...check out Matthew 22:44.
Brainless Idiot,

I was not referring to the mistranslations of certain verses in Tanach by Christians who go out of their way to use the mistranslated version to support the so-called divinity of Jesus and to make out that he was the Jewish messiah.

I am well aware of these tricks employed by the filthy Christian translators.

I was explicitly referring to the mayhem, curses, abuses, bigotry, cruelty, murder, genocides, rapes, blood sacrifices, pimping of one's wife, bashing babies against rocks, cannibalizing one's own kids, stoning disobedient sons to death and other such evils that are found in both the original teachings of the Hebrew Bible as well as in the translated versions of Jewish authors or Christian translators.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#74656 Jun 24, 2014
scirocco wrote:
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I bet you swallow
Another homosexual on this thread that is infested with gays. LOL.

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