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Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel

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Safety pins and screws are still lodged in 15-year-old Ami Ortiz's body three months after he opened a booby-trapped gift basket sent to his family.

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JOEL COOL DUDE

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#65485 Jan 8, 2014
PARTICLE SMASHERS VERSUS THE YOGIC CONSCIOUSNESS:

1) The problem with most crass materialists is that they easily tend to dismiss anything that cannot be readily tested by known physical means despite the model being strong in its hypothetical aspect. As such strings is increasingly being described as a theoretical cul-de-sac since the scientists cannot generate those huge amounts of energy on a small scale needed to make practical inferences of its workings. The particle smasher could spread out almost over the whole globe thereby making it impractical to verify the esoteric claims of strings.

2) Strings has been quite successful in explaining both the very small and the incredibly large, yet it is being dismissed as a bogus hypothesis because of the formidable challenge it presents to researchers who need to smash open atoms to observe the workings of strings in the higher dimensions stretching up to the 10th. It implies a failure of human effort and not of the hypothesis.

3) The ordinary human effort encompasses relatively small scales of energy that it effectively puts to use. To examine the subtler dimensions of the energy field, one needs the yogic consciousness based on omnijectiveness.

JOEL COOL DUDE

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#65486 Jan 8, 2014
AN OMNIJECTIVE UNIVERSE:

"Our concept of time and space, the very structure of the universe, is more intimately related to problems and phenomenon of consciousness than we have seriously suspected....There is no strict division between subjective and objective reality, consciousness and the physical universe are connected by some fundamental physical mechanism. This relationship between mind and reality is not subjective or objective, but 'omnijective'. An omnijective concept of the universe is by no means new ...There is a vast philosophical and metaphysical tradition behind the philosophy that the universe is omnijective:The mystics tell us this is true.The idealists tell us it is true.Most exciting of all, the physicists tell us it is true."

- "Mysticism and the New Physics" by Michael Talbot

JOEL COOL DUDE

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#65487 Jan 8, 2014
Vegan zombie wants grains! LOL.

JOEL COOL DUDE

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#65488 Jan 8, 2014
EXPLAINING THE CHRISTIAN TRINITY:

The one can manifest as a biune, a triune, a quadrune, a pentune, a hexune, a septune, an octune and so on. Thus, the Christian trinity is a plausible concept - a typal principle of a plane like say the cosmic vital manifests as a triune (the father, son and the ghost). The typal principle is the basis, whereas its embodied aspects - father, son and ghost - are its triune manifestations. By ghost is meant the intermediate vibratory link between father (disincarnate subtle form) and son (incarnate form). On the gross physical plane, a molecule like say H2O which serves as the typal basis manifests under different conditions of pressure and temperature in the solid, liquid and vapor states and at the triple point which is 0.01 °C it simultaneously embodies itself forth in all its 3 manifestations. Continuing with this analogy drawn from Chemistry, we can say that the molecule H2O is the typal principle and its 3 manifested effects are solid, liquid and vapor - the subtle vapor state could be considered the discarnate aspect (father), the solid state can be termed the incarnate state (son) and the connecting state is the liquid form (ghost). In a non-sublimatory molecule like H2O, to pass from the
vapor to the solid state, the molecule would necessarily have to pass through the intermediate liquid state and vice-versa.

JOEL COOL DUDE

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#65489 Jan 8, 2014
There's never a time when the effect breaks free of the connection with its cause though to the ordinary consciousness it appears that cause and effect can exist independent of each other. How can the effect exist independent of the cause when it's evident that the effect is nothing else but the cause itself in partial or complete manifestation as the case may be. The causal link between noumenon and phenomenon is always maintained intact at all times. As such, nondualism, either in its unmanifest or in its manifest form, is the root mechanism at work in the whole of existence. The One manifesting as the Many.

JOEL COOL DUDE

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#65490 Jan 8, 2014
Dualism with its creator G-d, creation from nothing, violation of the law of causation and the rest of its rubbish is a falsehood. The most inferior lot of humankind is attracted to dualism.
cartooni

Hesperia, CA

#65491 Jan 8, 2014
why the obsession with.... not spelling the simple word... god.?
The imaginary lord, really doesnt give a crap about yours or anyones voice, let alone your typed one...
Do you NOT say this word, when speaking directly to another, while having a similar conversation ?
It looks fraudish and disingenuous, at best It appears to be an extreme bastardization of something that NEVER SAID... dont ever write what i am called... which is god, not his name, but his position...???
get back to me on that if you wouldnt mind, ok ?
thanking you in advance

JOEL COOL DUDE

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#65492 Jan 9, 2014
THE WORDS PHYSICAL & NONPHYSICAL ARE MISNOMERS:

1) The words physical and non-physical are mere conventions and in many ways they're misnomers.

2) There exists a field of energy with an innate intelligent principle that upon manifestation vibrates at different frequencies.

3) Each frequency of vibration of the energy field in manifestation denotes a particular state of existence. Thus, we have matter, life, emotions, mind and intuitive states of existence that're simply, as said earlier, the different frequencies of vibration of the field of energy.

4) Science investigates the lowest frequency of vibration of energy field that's known as matter, while yoga goes beyond to the higher frequencies that exceed the plane of vibration of the energy field called matter.

5) These different ranges of frequencies of vibration of the universal energy field interact among themselves in feeble or in potent ways depending on proximity and on pulls or pressures created by the awakened will of the yogi.

6) Many frequencies of vibration can mingle giving rise to multiple or strange effects when a higher frequency of vibration of energy field unites with or presses down on a plane that's vibrating at a lower frequency and so in this way the entire isolated system becomes a plaint and an interacting apparatus with no ineluctable laws as we think.

7) This hybridization of the various frequencies of vibration of energy field is the mechanism underlying the paranormal phenomena and the incarnation of a higher typal principle or the precipitation of a range of higher frequency of energy field on to a lower one.

KEYNOTE: Nothing is impossible, even impossible says im possible!

JOEL COOL DUDE

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#65493 Jan 9, 2014
pliant not plaint

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#65495 Jan 9, 2014
cartooni wrote:
why the obsession with.... not spelling the simple word... god.?
The imaginary lord, really doesnt give a crap about yours or anyones voice, let alone your typed one...
Do you NOT say this word, when speaking directly to another, while having a similar conversation ?
It looks fraudish and disingenuous, at best It appears to be an extreme bastardization of something that NEVER SAID... dont ever write what i am called... which is god, not his name, but his position...???
get back to me on that if you wouldnt mind, ok ?
thanking you in advance
First, the tradition relates to how you write, not how you speak. Its not about what God thinks or doesnt think about you. Its about setting a tone within yourself when encountering the subject - Note when you call someone Mr Smith rather than Jim has a different effect on your personal attitude. Now, whether you WANT to develop an attitude of respect or worship is a different question - I suspect you do not, but to those people who are religious, its desired and part of the path.

By the way, in traditional Judaism, there is no prohibition about writing the word "God" per se. Its about writing the Hebrew name of God - generally it is written as hashem ("the name") to avoid the actual Hebrew term. Some Jews have extended this prohibition to the English term by only writing G-D, and not God, but that is an newer custom and not the tradition.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#65496 Jan 9, 2014
yehoshooah adam wrote:
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rabbee: i got an F for proving, a science teacher wrong. he said, "it could not be done". and he wouldn't even let me perform the experiment for him. on the excuse, fluorine gas was too dangerous. even though, i had already done it. as it turns out, years later they did prove you can combine fluorine, with a noble gas. and verified my calculations, on it's instability. so i am cynical of science teachers, and scientists. it does not hurt to have some cynicism, even about your own work. true science begins with, questioning yourself first.
Absolutely. But that isnt the same type of cynicism being discussed, thats more indicative of independent critical thinking, IMO. What was being discussed was the imputation of motive and agency on an entire institutionalized process.

I am not saying it doesnt happen, but my limited direct experience in the matter is highly to the contrary. Plus from a theoretical standpoint of the enterprise, it makes no sense. The argument, as FR pointed out, seems conveniently consistent to a Fox News world view, where you pick your ideology first, and work on from there.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#65497 Jan 9, 2014
JOEL COOL DUDE wrote:
Vegan zombie wants grains! LOL.
I will tell my arugula to watch its back!

Since: Nov 13

Denver, CO

#65498 Jan 9, 2014
Frijoles wrote:
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Absolutely. But that isnt the same type of cynicism being discussed, thats more indicative of independent critical thinking, IMO. What was being discussed was the imputation of motive and agency on an entire institutionalized process.
I am not saying it doesnt happen, but my limited direct experience in the matter is highly to the contrary. Plus from a theoretical standpoint of the enterprise, it makes no sense. The argument, as FR pointed out, seems conveniently consistent to a Fox News world view, where you pick your ideology first, and work on from there.
rabbee: the department of health, education, and welfare, is an agency and institutionalized process. as i carried that cynicism from there through the rest of my scientific and technological career.

if the company wants you to prove x, and you keep proving y. then you are going to be replaced. because you not, on their cowboy x team. as a lot of advanced research, really does not qualify as research. you'll find this quite coming, where politicians think they are the scientists. there is a big difference, between discovery and dictating.

Since: Nov 13

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#65499 Jan 9, 2014
JOEL COOL DUDE wrote:
Vegan zombie wants grains! LOL.
rabbee: tired of eating, corpse plant?
CTM

New Milford, CT

#65500 Jan 9, 2014
yehoshooah adam wrote:
<quoted text>
rabbee: the department of health, education, and welfare, is an agency and institutionalized process. as i carried that cynicism from there through the rest of my scientific and technological career.
if the company wants you to prove x, and you keep proving y. then you are going to be replaced. because you not, on their cowboy x team. as a lot of advanced research, really does not qualify as research. you'll find this quite coming, where politicians think they are the scientists. there is a big difference, between discovery and dictating.
..........Sounds like Stamford,Ct. water tests being a good example here of picking what one wants to prove is true and then staging the tests to prove it. From the North Stamford cancer wells the town wanted to prove that long-ago pesticide tests were the cause of the cancer. They then appropriated 1/4 million $$ for tests and dictated what was to be tested for. It was only certain chemicals and NOT the chemicals causing the cancer, so then they could say "There was none found." Currently the state health lab has changed the detect levels for drinking water tests. That means the test will not show poisons or any contaminants under the level they start to test for. This level is very high and apparently the detect level is much higher than the action level. This is done to claim "None was found" while you are getting poisoned by the illegal landfills blumenthal and mckinney are helping to hide.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#65501 Jan 9, 2014
CTM wrote:
<quoted text>..........Sounds like Stamford,Ct. water tests being a good example here of picking what one wants to prove is true and then staging the tests to prove it. From the North Stamford cancer wells the town wanted to prove that long-ago pesticide tests were the cause of the cancer. They then appropriated 1/4 million $$ for tests and dictated what was to be tested for. It was only certain chemicals and NOT the chemicals causing the cancer, so then they could say "There was none found." Currently the state health lab has changed the detect levels for drinking water tests. That means the test will not show poisons or any contaminants under the level they start to test for. This level is very high and apparently the detect level is much higher than the action level. This is done to claim "None was found" while you are getting poisoned by the illegal landfills blumenthal and mckinney are helping to hide.
Thats a bit off topic from the subject of grants for published science. What you are talking about is consulting, which is a whole other can of worms. Those "studies" are not peer reviewed or published in journals - they are tailored to regulatory authorities and the general public to put the client in the most favorable light.

As of N Stamford, the problem IS pesticides, but, as we found out in LI last decade, cancer clusters are not so easy to explain when subject to statistical analyses. The lesson learned from N stamford was not that the town was contaminated (we all knew that) but that similar contamination is more common than we think statewide. I.E. what happened in the Town wasnt much different than what happened every else - just that noone thought to test everywhere else for the same contaminants.

I fail to see what Blumenthal has to do with any of this. I think you are overreaching a bit on that one.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#65502 Jan 9, 2014
yehoshooah adam wrote:
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as a lot of advanced research, really does not qualify as research. you'll find this quite coming, where politicians think they are the scientists. there is a big difference, between discovery and dictating.
I agree. What I was referring to was grant sponsored research, involving stat testing, subject to peer review, and published in a credible professional journal. Not "applied" research as you are alluding to.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#65504 Jan 9, 2014
"The LAW(Israeli) made MISSIONARIES liable to FIVE years’ IMPRISONMENT for ATTEMPTING to persuade people to change their religion, and THREE years’ IMPRISONMENT for any JEW who CONVERTED."

"Bae, a Korean-American Christian MISSIONARY and tour operator based in China, has been detained for more than a year. North Korea sees missionary work as a THREAT to its authoritarian government."
CTM

New Milford, CT

#65505 Jan 9, 2014
Frijoles wrote:
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Thats a bit off topic from the subject of grants for published science. What you are talking about is consulting, which is a whole other can of worms. Those "studies" are not peer reviewed or published in journals - they are tailored to regulatory authorities and the general public to put the client in the most favorable light.
As of N Stamford, the problem IS pesticides, but, as we found out in LI last decade, cancer clusters are not so easy to explain when subject to statistical analyses. The lesson learned from N stamford was not that the town was contaminated (we all knew that) but that similar contamination is more common than we think statewide. I.E. what happened in the Town wasnt much different than what happened every else - just that noone thought to test everywhere else for the same contaminants.
I fail to see what Blumenthal has to do with any of this. I think you are overreaching a bit on that one.
..........When blumenthal first took office he touted himself as the "Environmental A.G." He lied big time. The suit he was given that had many years of work done by the courts including several Judges Decisions, ended up being transferred to another court and then he pulled not onlt that suit but a lot of other ones for the dumpers. He let them get away clean. One of the 24 sites on just that one suit is in newtown at 48 Birch Hill Rd. The town changed the owners name and the street address to hide the fact that about 15,000 cubic yards of demolition debris, radio-active medical waste and asbestos is buried there. They just sold the house at auction for taxes and someone is renovating it for sale or rental. The state and town show water tests, drinking water tests, to show no detect on lead and God knows what else.

JOEL COOL DUDE

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#65506 Jan 9, 2014
(wink wink whistles)

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