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JOEL

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Poor Jesus came to save the world but he couldn't save himself. The world is in a bigger mess due to his advent. LOL.
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ROFL. (smiles)
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Bye, BONOBO.

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HughBe wrote:
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Moses, David, Isaiah and Micah to name a few.
yeah, right.

not.

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Living aside the pseudo miracle of the milk... You started by saying which "swords" your prophet used against his enemies, but end up by telling the story of Muhammad feeding a foodless person named Abu Hurirah.
You went out the theme you started.
You did not read the opening statement before each story? That is the problem with you people.

Our prophet had "So many Swords" with him, the Sword of Steel was one of them, which he used rarely!!

Just wait, I will also provide instances where he did use the "Sword of Steel"!!

Just let me list so many cases where he could "kill" people without having to use his sword of steel!!
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Which “Sword” the Prophet Used against his enemies: Part-35

Enemies of Islam represent our prophet as a very cruel and blood thirsty man, who would kill his “opponents, enemies and any one who disagreed with him” at “the drop of hat” and all his adversaries would be “terrified” at the mere sight of him.

The picture is far from true, let us look at some incidents from the life of prophet, as what was “this sword which killed the enmity for ever”

The Case of : SUWAID BIN SAMIT OF MEDINA

SUWAID BIN SAMIT was a resident of Madina and was one of the recognized poet of the city. He was titled as “perfect” by people of his city and he was memorizing most of the Words of Wisdom of LUQMAN HAKEEM, well known wise man of ancient Arabia.

This incident dates when the prophet was in Makkah and was preaching there. Once SUWAID BIN SAMIT went to Makkah to perform ritual of HAJJ or UMRAH. People went out to meet him and greet him. Prophet also met him and told about his mission and that Allah has sent His revelation thru him.

“May be it is something like wisdom of LUQMAN” said SUWAID BIN SAMIT. Prophet asked him to recite some verses from that wisdom.

For a long time SUWAID BIN SAMIT kept on reciting and prophet went on listening. When he was finished, prophet told him that indeed this is very good, but what Prophet has, was Word of God and light and guidance for humankind.

SUWAID BIN SAMIT asked prophet what it was, Prophet recited some portion of Quran. He was very much impressed and said that “indeed it is a very good thing and incomparable”

After that he. Returned to Madina, but he was soon killed by some one in a local dispute. People say that he had become muslim, but did not declare his faith.

Such was SUWAID BIN SAMIT who was fatally injured by the “Sword of Quran and patience” which prophet wielded!

Source: Companions of Prophet: by Talib Hashmi
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JOEL wrote:
TANAKH VERSUS NT:
The NT should not be interpreted through the myopic lens of the Tanakh. Both preach quite different core philosophies. NT, in many critical parts, can be and should be evaluated in the light of the exalted monism taught by the Vedanta and Buddhism.
O Great false yogi, NT starts AFTER TANAKH is finished!! Do you not have even Basic Knowledge of Jewish and Christian Scriptures?

And you pass on your "judgments" on Jesus, Moses, Abraham and Noah!!
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pipsqueak.
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JOEL wrote:
Poor Jesus came to save the world but he couldn't save himself. The world is in a bigger mess due to his advent. LOL.
He could have easily saved Himself, if His only concern was what this world think, as you do.
I geuss your one of them who is still waiting for a messaiah of your own choosing?
Or perhaps since you know, not only many big words, but a whole lot of other usless info, then maybe you believe you are god?
You are only repeating what your Jewish ansestors said years ago -He saved others, let Him save Himself.
If I could have the power to save others, then "I " would be a cake walk.

Do you believe in any god? Or is your faith and trust in evolution, which takes even greater faith to believe in?

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MUQ wrote:
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You did not read the opening statement before each story? That is the problem with you people.
Our prophet had "So many Swords" with him, the Sword of Steel was one of them, which he used rarely!!
Just wait, I will also provide instances where he did use the "Sword of Steel"!!
Just let me list so many cases where he could "kill" people without having to use his sword of steel!!
Yes I read the opening statement before each post. That of yesterday said this:

Which “Sword” the Prophet Used against his enemies: Part-34

Enemies of Islam represent our prophet as a very cruel and blood thirsty man, who would kill his “opponents, enemies and any one who disagreed with him” at “the drop of hat” and all his adversaries would be “terrified” at the mere sight of him.
The picture is far from true, let us look at some incidents from the life of prophet, as what was “this sword which killed the enmity for ever”

The Case of : ABU HURIRAH AND PEOPLE OF SUFFAH"

Abu Hurirah in no way was enemy or an opponent of your prophet. Thus you went off topic.

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MUQ wrote:
Which “Sword” the Prophet Used against his enemies: Part-35
Enemies of Islam represent our prophet as a very cruel and blood thirsty man, who would kill his “opponents, enemies and any one who disagreed with him” at “the drop of hat” and all his adversaries would be “terrified” at the mere sight of him.
The picture is far from true, let us look at some incidents from the life of prophet, as what was “this sword which killed the enmity for ever”
The Case of : SUWAID BIN SAMIT OF MEDINA
SUWAID BIN SAMIT was a resident of Madina and was one of the recognized poet of the city. He was titled as “perfect” by people of his city and he was memorizing most of the Words of Wisdom of LUQMAN HAKEEM, well known wise man of ancient Arabia.
This incident dates when the prophet was in Makkah and was preaching there. Once SUWAID BIN SAMIT went to Makkah to perform ritual of HAJJ or UMRAH. People went out to meet him and greet him. Prophet also met him and told about his mission and that Allah has sent His revelation thru him.
“May be it is something like wisdom of LUQMAN” said SUWAID BIN SAMIT. Prophet asked him to recite some verses from that wisdom.
For a long time SUWAID BIN SAMIT kept on reciting and prophet went on listening. When he was finished, prophet told him that indeed this is very good, but what Prophet has, was Word of God and light and guidance for humankind.
SUWAID BIN SAMIT asked prophet what it was, Prophet recited some portion of Quran. He was very much impressed and said that “indeed it is a very good thing and incomparable”
After that he. Returned to Madina, but he was soon killed by some one in a local dispute. People say that he had become muslim, but did not declare his faith.
Such was SUWAID BIN SAMIT who was fatally injured by the “Sword of Quran and patience” which prophet wielded!
Source: Companions of Prophet: by Talib Hashmi
Also here the title talk about enemies and so is the intro, but the whole topic talk about a poet who was not hostile at all to Muhammad.

Furthermore this story appear as a fabrication.

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Do you believe in any god? Or is your faith and trust in evolution, which takes even greater faith to believe in?
Pet peeve of mine. It hardly takes faith to follow the evidence. Stick to the topics you know best, and leave science to those that actually understand it.
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Cult of Reason wrote:
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Pet peeve of mine. It hardly takes faith to follow the evidence. Stick to the topics you know best, and leave science to those that actually understand it.
I will be the first to say I'm no scientist, but not sure what evidence they have that proves anything.
Lucy was and is a lie, yet still in the museums and books, and the only basic thing of evolution to ever be seen is when you take two different animals of the same kind and breed them, you get a variation of that kind of animal.
Perhaps you can educate me?

I do know 100%, that I was awaken one night by "a force ",and after yeilding to this force, my life was forever changed. Not sure if evolution can exolain that or not. Even if the cursing, drinking, lying, and other stuff went away, I could've been told, that I had my mind clear of all things, and that's the reason I didn't need those anymore, but still didn't explain why, for the first time in my life, I had a strong desire to read the bible, pray, and watch preaching for many hours at a time.
To also find others like me -who was not raised up in religion, yet they to had a great change, and they to give the credit to Jesus Christ.

Before that night, I didn't really know how all was created. I now fully believe God.
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Isn't it funny that ho-mo people have hom-o thoughts? and gay people act gay? I thought it's kinda funny because a f-ag has fa-ggity thoughts all day. They just can't stop being a qu-eer? Wow. Go figure!
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Cult of Reason wrote:
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Pet peeve of mine. It hardly takes faith to follow the evidence. Stick to the topics you know best, and leave science to those that actually understand it.
I managed a small store years ago that was open 24/7.
While on vacation one year, 1000 bucks came up missing, it was between a black guy named will, and my assistant mgr. Vannesa.
She left the safe open, so incase will needed money during the night shift. My boss and I thought it was will, but with no hard "proff "we had to fire vannessa, for leaving the safe open. Although it was sorta common to do that back then, it was still against the rules, and so it was.

I hired a very sweet lady named donna, who's arms and legs were alittle shorter then normal. Will was teaching her how to count down her drawer, and within a week of her new job, 1000 bucks came up missing from her drawer, this time it was either the new girl or will.
My bosses words were "we got him! ". I agreed. We both suspected him the first time, but once he did it again, we knew we had him. I had to call him in and fire him, while my boss was searching options to charge him with theift.

Another two weeks go by with no problem, when one day I get a call from a jail, it was an inmate calling me, and asking if I wanted to know who took the 1000 dollars. I asked "which time? ". He gave me a date, and it was the secound time. He then sends me a letter, that his wife had wrote him, while he was in jail, it seems, that she started dating another guy, and the other guy threatened her, and told her, that he would tell her husband about their affair, if she didn't steal him 1000 bucks. It was the sweet little new girl, vanessa. In her own handwriting.

I learned alot from that. Sonetimes all evidence can point to one thing, when it was another all along.
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Gtown71 wrote:
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He could have easily saved Himself, if His only concern was what this world think, as you do.
I geuss your one of them who is still waiting for a messaiah of your own choosing?
Or perhaps since you know, not only many big words, but a whole lot of other usless info, then maybe you believe you are god?
You are only repeating what your Jewish ansestors said years ago -He saved others, let Him save Himself.
If I could have the power to save others, then "I " would be a cake walk.
Do you believe in any god? Or is your faith and trust in evolution, which takes even greater faith to believe in?
rabbee: you all do not, understand scripture. if scripture says, your going to die. then there is nothing, anyone can do about it. it is already written, that Adam is put to death. and is always returned as adam and his mate. there is nothing you can do, to change any of this. as long as this whole world, keeps making all the same mistakes expecting different results. then we are not, going to get the GanEden Story happening for us all. cause you all helped, snuff out your own immortality. cause you all, did it yourself. and have no one to blame, but yourselves.

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Gtown71 wrote:
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I will be the first to say I'm no scientist, but not sure what evidence they have that proves anything.
Lucy was and is a lie, yet still in the museums and books, and the only basic thing of evolution to ever be seen is when you take two different animals of the same kind and breed them, you get a variation of that kind of animal.
Perhaps you can educate me?
I do know 100%, that I was awaken one night by "a force ",and after yeilding to this force, my life was forever changed. Not sure if evolution can exolain that or not. Even if the cursing, drinking, lying, and other stuff went away, I could've been told, that I had my mind clear of all things, and that's the reason I didn't need those anymore, but still didn't explain why, for the first time in my life, I had a strong desire to read the bible, pray, and watch preaching for many hours at a time.
To also find others like me -who was not raised up in religion, yet they to had a great change, and they to give the credit to Jesus Christ.
Before that night, I didn't really know how all was created. I now fully believe God.
1. Lucy is a lie? First I'm hearing of that. You'll need to provide citations from credible scientists for that assertion.

2. Evolution is a gradual process that typically does not happen within the span of a lifetime (except at the microbial level, in which case speciation is observed). You don't need to see it physically happen before your eyes in order to study both the biological and genealogical evidence.

3. I'm glad you straightened your life out, but your nocturnal premonitions are nothing more than the product of an overstimulated mind. Your subjective experiences mean nothing to anyone but yourself. Nothing wrong with that, but don't expect others to simply take your word for it. And they certainly have no relevance to the topic of evolution.

4. Like I said, stick to the topics you know. Stay away from scientific discussions unless you are willing to take the time and educate yourself first and make an effort to understand it.
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rabbee: hom-os have long been q ue-er because they are bucking the system. they are moral criminals. criminals. they believe in a circular thinking to justify their own filth. filth being the operative word here.
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Pedo wrote:
rabbee: hom-os have long been q ue-er because they are bucking the system. they are moral criminals. criminals. they believe in a circular thinking to justify their own filth. filth being the operative word here.
rabbee: it is the result of disbelief in G-D. like all the other horrible stuff, happening on this planet. and the worship of halooseefer, is the worst form of angel worshipers.
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Cult of Reason wrote:
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1. Lucy is a lie? First I'm hearing of that. You'll need to provide citations from credible scientists for that assertion.
2. Evolution is a gradual process that typically does not happen within the span of a lifetime (except at the microbial level, in which case speciation is observed). You don't need to see it physically happen before your eyes in order to study both the biological and genealogical evidence.
3. I'm glad you straightened your life out, but your nocturnal premonitions are nothing more than the product of an overstimulated mind. Your subjective experiences mean nothing to anyone but yourself. Nothing wrong with that, but don't expect others to simply take your word for it. And they certainly have no relevance to the topic of evolution.
4. Like I said, stick to the topics you know. Stay away from scientific discussions unless you are willing to take the time and educate yourself first and make an effort to understand it.
Well, like I said, I'm no scientist for sure, but what I have read about lucy, is that she turned out to be a lie, and /or most experts believe she's nothing more then a 3ft. Tall chimpanzee.

As far as my story, you are right, as far as people can either believe it or not, but all I can do is present what happened to me. The main point of my story though, is not how "I " cleaned up my life, but rather how "God " cleaned up my life. I was born again that night.

People will either believe in the bible or not, or any combination of books "they " deem to be inspired or not. The reason I believe the whole bible was inspired by God, is becouse if not, then that leaves me to decide what I think is and isn't inspired. Which many do.

My experience is an individual experience, but many people have been born again /found God /saved, or whatever one calls it.

He changed my "core " beliefs, and gave me power to overcome many things, that before that night, I wouldn't even try doing.

Even when I truly didn't believe in any god, and thought those who did were idiots, I still never bought into the millions or billions of years, and slimmy rocks turning into humans and animals. Plus also needing a man and a woman to reproduce, reproduce from there.

Some examples of "missing links " were made from finding 1 tooth. That is amazing!
I went from being a goddless person, to being a child of God, in the blink of an eye. I firmly believe, that even those who never heard of Jesus Christ, or seen a bible can be saved.
The universe alone is enough to show them, that there is something much greater then us.

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