Underage drinking in Indy

[Concerned]

It's been going on forever, that is true, but lately it seems to have increased, a few of our 20 something residents are providing the residences and garages for our underaged youth to gather to drink and it's beginning to get out of hand. Am I wrong to worry about this, should I let the police know about where this is happening, or just stay out of it? All joking aside, can we discuss this?

[impression]

My own impression is that it probably hasn't increased so much, but that (like drug use) it's more in the open than it used to be. That is, young people don't bother to hide it the way they used to.

[DirtyHarryJohn WayneGIJoe]

I'd say contact these kids parents, the owner of the garage, or a guardian. The police only make the problems with the youth worse. The kids allready are targeted, and many times harassed. If the parents care about their children, they will address the problem immedietly. If not it is likely the police will or have allready been involved in their personel lives!

[DirtyHarryJohn WayneGIJoe]

Kids are going to be kids, parents in my opinion need to be more involved, check on your kids, give them freedom but there is nothing wrong with supervised freedom. Or knowing exactly where they are, and when, so you can do a drive by.

[Indy Alumni]

I agree that it's definitely more open. I am a freshman in college and just graduated from IHS in May. There are kids drinking that are completely too young. I agree that the parents need to check up on their kids more but at the same time, they should've been warning the kids long before now. My mother caught me doing many things I wasn't supposed to by calling me or driving by where I was and I wouldn't have traded it for anything. I learned from it and maybe I learned the hard way but kids will do what they want when they want and unfortunately like myself, they must learn from their own mistakes. Kids now a days think it's okay as long as they don't get caught. NOT A GOOD MENTALITY!

[IndyGirl]

But if you aren't reporting the problem to the police, isn't it like saying that you don't care either. Apparently the parents don't care, or they would be checking up on them a little bit better. Many of these parents know there is a problem, and the child has been in trouble before, and the parents still really don't care. If it was my child, I would still want them involved. Giving them a good scolding isn't going to make them learn from their mistakes.

[2sweet]

In my opinion it's not the kids who should be in trouble it's the 20 somethings you are talking about and the owners of the homes or garages where they are drinking who need a reality check. If you don't say something and one of these kids gets behind a wheel and kills themselves or someone else you will regret not speaking up.In my opinion police should show up, parents should be called and the adults arrested. If we don't protect our kids who will???

[Ace Hole]

2sweet wrote:

In my opinion it's not the kids who should be in trouble it's the 20 somethings you are talking about and the owners of the homes or garages where they are drinking who need a reality check. If you don't say something and one of these kids gets behind a wheel and kills themselves or someone else you will regret not speaking up.In my opinion police should show up, parents should be called and the adults arrested. If we don't protect our kids who will???

The thing about it is, the problem needs addressed, the drinking part, by the parents! IF they are in someones garage, they arent in a car driving!

[2sweet]

Ace Hole wrote:

<quoted text>The thing about it is, the problem needs addressed, the drinking part, by the parents! IF they are in someones garage, they arent in a car driving!

No one said they stay the night some may drive home.

[historian]

2sweet wrote:

In my opinion it's not the kids who should be in trouble it's the 20 somethings you are talking about and the owners of the homes or garages where they are drinking who need a reality check. If you don't say something and one of these kids gets behind a wheel and kills themselves or someone else you will regret not speaking up.In my opinion police should show up, parents should be called and the adults arrested. If we don't protect our kids who will???

Yes, the kids DO need to be in trouble; they need to be made to see they're responsible for their own actions.(That isn't to say that those in their 20s should be held responsible, too.)

[Indy Resident]

It's not illegal in the state of kansas for a minor to drink if the parent is present.

[Ace Hole]

2sweet wrote:

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No one said they stay the night some may drive home.

What if a meteor went through the garage roof? What if they spilled beer and slipped and fell on it, and bust their heads? What if the garage collapsed? The fact remains the drinking problem needs addressed by the parents, you can what if all you want! What if the parents got responsible and disiplined their kids? The cops would only arrest the children, the parents need addressed, get on your phone and call them, tell them to get off their ass and be responsible parents.. If the parents aren't responsible what makes you think the kids will be, ever?

[on the hunt]

Ace Hole wrote:

<quoted text>What if a meteor went through the garage roof? What if they spilled beer and slipped and fell on it, and bust their heads? What if the garage collapsed? The fact remains the drinking problem needs addressed by the parents, you can what if all you want! What if the parents got responsible and disiplined their kids? The cops would only arrest the children, the parents need addressed, get on your phone and call them, tell them to get off their ass and be responsible parents.. If the parents aren't responsible what makes you think the kids will be, ever?

I can't make other parents be responsible. The people purchasing alcohol for minors are IN MY OPINION the problem I don't know why you are addressing this to me I am a responsible parent! I don't think you can compare drinking and driving to a slip and fall and it's not a what if it's a when?. If you got through high school without someone dying from drunk driving you are very lucky it is a serious problem. Teenagers driving is scary enough without alcohol.

[2sweet]

on the hunt= friend using computer sorry.

[2sweet]

Teenagers brains are not fully developed they will make mistakes thats why they have parents to help guide them. I just think kids will be kids and the adults should know better. That's just my opinion.

[K U Fan]

Indy Resident wrote:

It's not illegal in the state of kansas for a minor to drink if the parent is present.

Any adult that furnishes alcohol to a minor is subject to criminal prosecution. If a parent is furnishing alcohol to a minor child and/or allowing that child to consume it in their presence, they should be reported to the police. It is a crime. There is a poster on the south entrance to the Judicial Center that addresses this issue. Go check it out.

[Inquiring Mind]

Some people never really get the big picture until they are visiting their teen at the cemetery....ask a parent that knows all about that! If you are an adult (over 21) and you are supplying alcohol to a minor you should be punished to the fullest extent of the law...If a teen dief because of my foolishness by supplying the booze or place to party, I don't think I could live with the guilt.

[Inquiring Mind]

Before some smart alec corrects me...the word above should have been died, not dief....thank you

[Indy Resident]

K U Fan wrote:

<quoted text>Any adult that furnishes alcohol to a minor is subject to criminal prosecution. If a parent is furnishing alcohol to a minor child and/or allowing that child to consume it in their presence, they should be reported to the police. It is a crime. There is a poster on the south entrance to the Judicial Center that addresses this issue. Go check it out.

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Taken from http://www.kslegislature.org
21-3610
Chapter 21.--CRIMES AND PUNISHMENTS
PART II.--PROHIBITED CONDUCT
Article 36.--CRIMES AFFECTING FAMILY RELATIONSHIPS AND CHILDREN
21-3610. Furnishing alcoholic liquor or cereal malt beverage to a minor.(a) Furnishing alcoholic liquor or cereal malt beverage to a minor is directly or indirectly, selling to, buying for, giving or furnishing any alcoholic liquor or cereal malt beverage to any minor.
(b) Furnishing alcoholic liquor or cereal malt beverage to a minor is a class B person misdemeanor for which the minimum fine is $200.
(c) As used in this section, terms have the meanings provided by K.S.A. 41-102, 41-2601 and 41-2701, and amendments thereto.
(d) It shall be a defense to a prosecution under this section if:(1) The defendant is a licensed retailer, club, drinking establishment or caterer or holds a temporary permit, or an employee thereof; (2) the defendant sold the alcoholic liquor or cereal malt beverage to the minor with reasonable cause to believe that the minor was 21 or more years of age or of legal age for the consumption of alcoholic liquor or cereal malt beverage; and (3) to purchase the alcoholic liquor or cereal malt beverage, the person exhibited to the defendant a driver's license, Kansas nondriver's identification card or other official or apparently official document, that reasonably appears to contain a photograph of the minor and purporting to establish that such minor was 21 or more years of age or of legal age for the consumption of alcoholic liquor or cereal malt beverage.
(e) This section shall not apply to the furnishing of cereal malt beverage by a parent or legal guardian to such parent's child or such guardian's ward when such furnishing is permitted and supervised by the child or ward's parent or legal guardian.
READ SECTION "E".

[Side Ways]

Not sure its a problem if we can send our kids off to war at 18 whats alcohol? Yes I think drinking in on during and before high school is too young of a age because society has told us so and parents should be the enforcers. I don't think the law enforcement departments in our area have the resources to find these crooks. I would rather see the men and women in blue going after drugs-dealers-users, adult life long criminals, If its a big deal have the ABCs come in that's what they are here for.