Family: We're in 'a toxic pit' of mold

Family: We're in 'a toxic pit' of mold

There are 256 comments on the Lowell Sun story from Mar 21, 2010, titled Family: We're in 'a toxic pit' of mold. In it, Lowell Sun reports that:

In November 2007, when Tammy Trainor moved with her daughter and newborn grandson from a small Dracut apartment into a three-bedroom house at 45 Willowdale Ave., she saw it as a dream come true.

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Happster

Andover, MA

#1 Mar 21, 2010
Why isn't the daughter working? I have back pain every day, after having surgery on a blown disc in 2003. So I found a career with minimal physical exertion. Why can't you do that? I hate to hear that kids are suffering, but you get what you pay for. Take the reigns and give your family a chance. It appears to me that you're raising a long line of do-littles.
klm

Dracut, MA

#2 Mar 21, 2010
The daughter is old enough to keep having kids she should be on her own. But then she will be on the dole to.
KAH

AOL

#3 Mar 21, 2010
So you mean to tell me since 2007 sec 8 housing has not had yearly inspections on this place? Only thing can happen is sec 8 witholds their payments to the Landlord--and furthermore, sec 8 housing ALWAYS have lists for housing....and if you knew there was a problem there, why stay? Sounds like alotta sittin' on your butt and whining....

“More Paint!!!”

Since: May 08

Lowell

#4 Mar 21, 2010
I want that deal.
The Cynic

Lowell, MA

#5 Mar 21, 2010
The life-style of the renters aside, this building needs to be either ripped down and burned or have something like $100K spent to refurbish it. Black Mold is a serious issue and the building shouldn't be rented to anyone.
citizen

Tyngsboro, MA

#6 Mar 21, 2010
Her daughter isn't too sick to get pregnant again! It's about time we pay for one illegitimate child and mothers know that all others they have will be disqualified from any benefits. Watch how quickly the birth rate for welfare mothers goes down! A three bedroom home we're paying for is her dream. I work for my dreams! Sicknening story!!!
Tired Taxpayer

Hanscom Afb, MA

#7 Mar 21, 2010
Wow...the only thing "toxic" is this family. They are a complete drain on society. They continue to make irresponsible decisions and we should all just keep paying.

Grandmother & Mother, Get a job and pay your own rent!

Tyngsborough

Londonderry, NH

#8 Mar 21, 2010
What agency is administering the Section 8 housing assistance program for this family and what are they doing about this situation? That's $1,300 in taxpayer money paying for this rental. Don't they conduct inspections to see what the $1,300 is buying?
And, I checked the Lowell Sun's apartment listings. There are numerous 3 bedrooms available for well under $1,300.

“More Paint!!!”

Since: May 08

Lowell

#9 Mar 21, 2010
Seriously, can you imagine getting paid thousands of dollars from the state to simply exist? It's like being retired with a great 401K/pension only you never worked to earn it. Wake up every day, spend the day hanging around the house, watching TV, sitting out by Lake Mascuppic, people watching, watching traffic go by...cooking, shopping, hit the local bars...basically do whatever you can think of to fill 16 waking hours every day...anything except working, that is...and the state pays you for this.

I want this deal! I want to be rewarded for breathing, this lady is clearly smarter than me. Like a sucker, I work and toil 5-6 days a week, try to squeeze a life into the few hours of daylight I have each evening, then play catch-up on the weekends getting my house clean, laundry and preparing food for the week. By the time I retire in my 70s I'll be too close to death to enjoy the little monthly pittance I've squirreled away over my working years. Man, am I done. I think I'm gonna fall out of my chair Monday and herniate a disc...yeah, it may hurt at first, but being retired in my late 30s and collecting a monthly check from the state...will make all the pain worth it.
Tired Taxpayer

Hanscom Afb, MA

#10 Mar 21, 2010
Tyngsborough wrote:
What agency is administering the Section 8 housing assistance program for this family and what are they doing about this situation? That's $1,300 in taxpayer money paying for this rental. Don't they conduct inspections to see what the $1,300 is buying?
And, I checked the Lowell Sun's apartment listings. There are numerous 3 bedrooms available for well under $1,300.
Remember her dream was a house...she's too good for an appartment.

My heart goes out to the Landlord. As a homeowner, we were flooded last weekend and I'm truly not sure what the actual damage and cost will be. This is not a slumlord just a small business owner.
Upset in Dracu

Dracut, MA

#11 Mar 21, 2010
I agree with Bob. I feel sorry for the two young kids but not the adults. My husband and I work two jobs to support our kids and send them to college and here this woman is getting money for what. I wonder if I can claim them on my income tax. Her daughter is 18 and preggers again she should teach her daughter about birth control. They get no sympathy from me. Take the kids away and they should have to go to work. I know how about all of these people on welfare and I am not talking about the ones that have hit hard times but the ones who have made a life out if it have them serve in the military.
chuck

Salem, MA

#12 Mar 21, 2010
Tired Taxpayer wrote:
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Remember her dream was a house...she's too good for an appartment.
My heart goes out to the Landlord. As a homeowner, we were flooded last weekend and I'm truly not sure what the actual damage and cost will be. This is not a slumlord just a small business owner.
Why would you side with the landlord? No matter who lives in that house, If the mold is in there the "slumlord" should fix it no matter what. It's his responsibility. Don't shoot the messenger.
mike d

Salem, MA

#14 Mar 21, 2010
Upset in Dracu wrote:
I agree with Bob. I feel sorry for the two young kids but not the adults. My husband and I work two jobs to support our kids and send them to college and here this woman is getting money for what. I wonder if I can claim them on my income tax. Her daughter is 18 and preggers again she should teach her daughter about birth control. They get no sympathy from me. Take the kids away and they should have to go to work. I know how about all of these people on welfare and I am not talking about the ones that have hit hard times but the ones who have made a life out if it have them serve in the military.
WHAT DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH THE MOLD SITUATION? The article is about the awful living conditions and the unwilling landlord to do anything. Can you say SLUMLORD!
tired taxpayer

Hanscom Afb, MA

#16 Mar 21, 2010
chuck wrote:
<quoted text>Why would you side with the landlord? No matter who lives in that house, If the mold is in there the "slumlord" should fix it no matter what. It's his responsibility. Don't shoot the messenger.
I'm siding with the landlord because he is paying (through taxes) for this woman to sit home. She clearly feels a tremedous sense of entitlement.

Did her disability also make her unable to parent? She is home all day and couldn't teach her daughter to be responsible. She should feel embarrassed not entitled.

If you don't work, you don't get a house. I'm sure there are plenty of apartments in the city.
mr- tax payer

Lowell, MA

#17 Mar 21, 2010
This family is professional welfare benerfactress. This family if fourth generation takers and I see that the daughter is folloewing suit. Oh the boy friends live there too. This is only one of a million sucking you dry in Mass.hand outs. Wait to you hear what Mass Health gives out and how many young people are on it sucking you dry. Get mad tax payers and do something. STOP the hand outs!
tired taxpayer

Hanscom Afb, MA

#18 Mar 21, 2010
mike d wrote:
<quoted text>WHAT DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH THE MOLD SITUATION? The article is about the awful living conditions and the unwilling landlord to do anything. Can you say SLUMLORD!
I would prefer to fund a tax program to help this property owner address a very expensive issue that he didn't create.

“More Paint!!!”

Since: May 08

Lowell

#19 Mar 21, 2010
I also think it's pretty telling that this family will not accept moving out to a 3 bedroom apartment - according to the article they will only accept moving to another house - and, I'm willing to bet, a house in the Lowell 'burbs, not Lowell itself - after all, they have standards.

Look, I don't know if I'd go as far as to call the landlord a 'slumlord' but I think there is a failure in communication between the town and state, the town should be able to notify the state of the ongoing conditions of this property and the Section 8 qualification should be rescinded...if this guy wants the town to take his property (assuming the mortgage is paid off), so be it - not much to debate there.

Regardless, I have no sympathy for this family who were too good for a two-bedroom apartment in Dracut. I bet they have too much purchased (state-financed) stuff now to fit everything into a two or three bedroom apartment. Must be a nice problem to have!
concerned neighbor

Burlington, MA

#20 Mar 21, 2010
First two years she lived with her daughters father which section 8 did not know He also is collecting disability ss what a racket!
Boy and to think I work every day to support her and her illegitimate kids and grand kids. Life is grand. I too wake up every morning go to work. Enough is enough!!!!!!!!!!
hack it

Dracut, MA

#22 Mar 21, 2010
Let them be. They deserve each other
Personal Responsibility

Tyngsboro, MA

#23 Mar 21, 2010
The landlord likely has benefitted from the income from that house for some time. No one is responsible for the expenses he will incur except him. There are risks to investing, and being a landlord has significant risks he chose to take. It's his problem and he probably exposed himself to a lawsuit by renting the house in that condition.

I do think that there are situations where a person already has kids and becomes disabled or hits hard times, and welfare/disability/section 8 programs exist for those people and rightfully so.

That said, I was a teenage mother and I had one child and one child only. If you don't learn your lesson the first time then you deserve to go work in McDonalds or doing laundry or whatever minimum wage job will have you. There is either a lack of intelligence or a lack of taking responsibilty for your own actions if you continue to have children when you can't take care of the ones you have already. I was on welfare for a year, I was on Section 8 (after I was working, but making $8 an hour) for 2 years until I saved enough money for a small downpayment to buy a 2 bedroom condo, but I went to school while I was on welfare and got a job and got out of the situation. As someone who has been there, I do not consider letting disability, welfare, and section 8 pay my bills or anyone else's as qualifying for taking care of myself.

I honestly wish we could require anyone on these programs to use implanted birth control. I knew one woman who was on every program imaginable and on drugs and kept having drug babies and when the state tried to have her sterilized she suddenly decided she was Catholic. There are just too many ways to scam the system.

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