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Beagle

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Jul 28, 2010
 

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Nope, it's MUCH worse now, the cops and DA's office are %1000 more corrupt, dirtier and better at it, the drugs are more plentiful and greater variety, the nude clubs are doing landslide business along with all the so called "private parties",the sex is waaaayyyyy more plentiful with the girls getting younger all the time the gangs are a lot more visible and braver, and the good ole boys keep on keepin' on while the "good church folks" go eat their Mexican food and load up on margueritas after Sunday services while keeping their heads buried in the sand.
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#22
Jul 28, 2010
 
gwgw
It still happens

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#23
Aug 25, 2010
 
As far as relevence goes it is still very relevent becase I fell that stuff like this still happens all the time in Ector County all you have to do is look up the "kopbusters" stil PLENTY of corruption in Odessa Police Dept. anyone who read the book knows that it was not just about Tyler it was ALSO about Odessa Texas!!!!
McGyver

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#24
Sep 7, 2010
 
Does anyone know who the publisher of this book was? What happened to David Ellsworth, the author?

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Sep 22, 2010
 
Jellybean wrote:
They tried keeping jellybeans from people too
Somethings just never change.

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#27
Sep 22, 2010
 
Beagle wrote:
Nope, it's MUCH worse now, the cops and DA's office are %1000 more corrupt, dirtier and better at it, the drugs are more plentiful and greater variety, the nude clubs are doing landslide business along with all the so called "private parties",the sex is waaaayyyyy more plentiful with the girls getting younger all the time the gangs are a lot more visible and braver, and the good ole boys keep on keepin' on while the "good church folks" go eat their Mexican food and load up on margueritas after Sunday services while keeping their heads buried in the sand.
You said a mouthful there, brother. I just got one word for you: AMEN!

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#28
Sep 22, 2010
 
McGyver wrote:
Does anyone know who the publisher of this book was? What happened to David Ellsworth, the author?
I believe David's publisher for Smith County Justice was "Viking Press."
Kerry Cook

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#29
Sep 23, 2010
 
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It's very relevant in 2010. The book is behind glass at a Tyler bookstore for $300. And the sheriff? Yeah. HE IS STILL THE SHERIFF!
Why do people believe that just because someone, whether elected or appointed or whatever, makes them actually qualified for the job?
This stuff happens every day. All it takes for evil to go on is for all of us to remain silent. And we do.
That was extremely well said. See my post about my book, CHASING JUSTICE. It really fits with all you just said.
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Sep 23, 2010
 

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David Ellsworth's real name is Joseph Werner. He has been in and out of trouble ever since writing the book. I did significant research years ago on the subject and it was very interesting that after over 20 years, at the time, the police and sheriff's dept. were still keeping secrets about the bust out. One of the narcs wrote a book about it while in prison serving her time for violation of civil rights against Andrew Bora. The other narc at one time was running a very successful lawn care business in the Dallas area. BTW, the main person they were after Mr. Bora, owns a successful bar now in Arvada, Co. I have seen some of the character's in the magazine in Tyler like Cheri Paro and Steve McGill. Just FYI.
Truetotyler

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#31
Sep 25, 2010
 
The Sheriff will be gone soon. The voters will decide if the same old people stay in office or they vote in a new Sheriff.
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#32
Oct 3, 2010
 
Several years ago I inquired at my local library about "Smith County Justice". I was told that only three libraries in the State of Texas had copies....Austin, TJC and Waco. At the time they were under lock and key and absolutely no one could even look at them. I read it online. What is the big deal...other than exposing the politicians, law enforcement and the "uppercrust" in Tyler. I have not lived in Tyler in a very long time but I am willing to bet this stuff is still going on...but on a much larger scale.
demper

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#33
Oct 3, 2010
 
Smith county is the crooked capital of the world! I know for a fact how crooked one judge is in this town and a certain criminal attorney, he's got them all in his hip pocket. Why do you think people want him when they get in trouble?
For a hefty fee he can make things go away........

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#34
Oct 5, 2010
 
demper wrote:
Smith county is the crooked capital of the world! I know for a fact how crooked one judge is in this town and a certain criminal attorney, he's got them all in his hip pocket. Why do you think people want him when they get in trouble?
For a hefty fee he can make things go away........
Can you say who that attorney is? I think I know but I am not sure.
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#36
Oct 15, 2010
 
I think I know who demper was talking about and I'm pretty sure its who Kerry is thinking. I'm not afraid to name names. The judge is Jack Skeen and the attorney is Buck Files. Buck can make things go away if you have the money. If not he'll sell you out to the DA's office for a favor for one of his wealthier clients. And Jack Skeen....I don't even know where to start. That man is just evil. The 14th court of appeals raked him over the coals recently in the Patrick Kelly case. His behavior in that case is just his standard operating procedure. Apparently he paid no attention to the rebuke from a higher court because he has not modified his behavior at all. There are more cases that are going to be overturned because of his misconduct. Maybe when people in Tyler get tired of paying for retrials they'll vote him out. I wouldn't hold my breath though.
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#37
Oct 15, 2010
 
I've been curious about something since I read the book a couple of year ago. I wonder if anyone here has an answer. There was a guy...I think his last name was Monigold (or something like that) who went missing during all that stuff. The author tracked him to Jamaica (I think) but was unable to locate him. I recall, before I moved out of Tyler about a year and a half ago, seeing this guys picture on the cable access channel where they show pictures of missing kids. Apparently, he's still classified as missing. I just can't help but wonder why this guy would stay in hiding for so long. Its been 30 years. What, or who, is he afraid of? Basically the same political machine is still in control that was then, only some of the names have changed. Anyone have any thoughts on the subject?

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#38
Oct 17, 2010
 
I was shocked how accurate and how firm your grasp on "Smith County Justice" goes. You were so accurate. And yes, that IS the attorney I was thinking of: "The magician," or the man who can make it all go away. Jack Skeen is so indebted to Buck Files. They share such gross misconduct together.....
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I think I know who demper was talking about and I'm pretty sure its who Kerry is thinking. I'm not afraid to name names. The judge is Jack Skeen and the attorney is Buck Files. Buck can make things go away if you have the money. If not he'll sell you out to the DA's office for a favor for one of his wealthier clients. And Jack Skeen....I don't even know where to start. That man is just evil. The 14th court of appeals raked him over the coals recently in the Patrick Kelly case. His behavior in that case is just his standard operating procedure. Apparently he paid no attention to the rebuke from a higher court because he has not modified his behavior at all. There are more cases that are going to be overturned because of his misconduct. Maybe when people in Tyler get tired of paying for retrials they'll vote him out. I wouldn't hold my breath though.
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#39
Nov 14, 2010
 
I grew up in East Texas in the 70s and everybody knew about corruption and drugs, most people just wanted to turn their head and pretend it did not exist. I plan to read this book - it's funny, my neighbor had a bit part in the movie "Rush" and this is how all of this was dredged up. I don't live in north east Texas anymore, I am in Houston.
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Nov 15, 2010
 
I know wrote:
I've been curious about something since I read the book a couple of year ago. I wonder if anyone here has an answer. There was a guy...I think his last name was Monigold (or something like that) who went missing during all that stuff. The author tracked him to Jamaica (I think) but was unable to locate him. I recall, before I moved out of Tyler about a year and a half ago, seeing this guys picture on the cable access channel where they show pictures of missing kids. Apparently, he's still classified as missing. I just can't help but wonder why this guy would stay in hiding for so long. Its been 30 years. What, or who, is he afraid of? Basically the same political machine is still in control that was then, only some of the names have changed. Anyone have any thoughts on the subject?
I don't think the story in the book is correct about Barre "Kallen" Monigold. There was never any concrete evidence to back up the Jamaica story except for a BBQ stand that had a sign that read "Cool Texan" or something like that. I believe the girl he was dating ex boyfriend by the name pf Paul Woodward did it. He has been serving a life sentence for gunning her down in Austin the same year. Her name was patricia Dohnalick. The story that I last heard was that he was probably buried at a house they were building on Lake Tyler at the time of his disappearance. I spoke to Kallan's roommate at the time, and he believe that Woodward had something to do with it. My only question is why the Monigold's never pursued any leads with a private detective or any other outside agency. They we a pretty influential family in Tyler.
truetotyler

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#41
Nov 25, 2010
 
It will be interesting to see what happens to the Sheriff the day after he leaves office.....
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Nov 26, 2010
 
truetotyler wrote:
It will be interesting to see what happens to the Sheriff the day after he leaves office.....
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