Man Kicked Out of Bar for Being "Too Gay"

Oct 11, 2008 Full story: queersunited.blogspot.com 107

A man in Tuscaloosa, Alabama claims that the bar Catch 22 had kicked him and his friends out for being "too gay". The video below was on the local news and Joseph describes his alleged treatment.

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“God hates me!”

Since: May 07

West Texas, USA

#86 Oct 17, 2008
Misti Wilde wrote:
OMG I was discriminated against for the first time since my divorce this week because of my sexual orientation. Sadly, my wife and I almost ended our relationship, long unrelated story there; My point is I called a lawyer from the yellow pages that advertised free legal advice. He does it over the phone and when I explained my relationship to him, before asking the legal question I had, he said "We don't do that". I said "You don't do family law? You advertised family law." and he said "Not that kind." and STRAIGHT UP HUNG UP ON ME! I cried like a baby. It was bad enough to be going through this with my wife and what he did really hurt. Is what he did legal? I'm so mad.
My wife and I are slowly surely working things out to stay together. Thanks in advance for asking and being concerned.
David S. Kohn & Associates, Attorneys at 1414 W. Randol mill Rd. Suite 118 reached at eight one seven eight six one eight four zero zero did that to me.
Oh Misti, I am sorry to hear that.

Unfortunately, I am not sure how the laws for our state work. And while the attorney does have a right to refuse cases, his actions were unprofessional.
As for legal recourse, I would first check with you local city laws. But am not optimistic on how it would be handled on the state level.

At the very least, you could send a letter to the BBB or the Texas Bar Association about his conduct. Maybe ask the bar what their definition of "family law" is and see where it goes from there.

I hope things stay well for you and you wife. Hang in there.

PS... be careful with putting personal names and info on Topix, I know they frown on that.
Christine

Frederiksberg, Denmark

#87 Oct 17, 2008
No one should be kicked out of any bar.. Sexual orientation is so much secondary.

Since: Sep 08

United States

#88 Oct 18, 2008
dante2810 wrote:
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Oh Misti, I am sorry to hear that.
Unfortunately, I am not sure how the laws for our state work. And while the attorney does have a right to refuse cases, his actions were unprofessional.
As for legal recourse, I would first check with you local city laws. But am not optimistic on how it would be handled on the state level.
At the very least, you could send a letter to the BBB or the Texas Bar Association about his conduct. Maybe ask the bar what their definition of "family law" is and see where it goes from there.
I hope things stay well for you and you wife. Hang in there.
PS... be careful with putting personal names and info on Topix, I know they frown on that.
It FELT illegal. Lol. Hey Dante, what bank would you suggest I put my wad in right now??? You seem like the kind of guy that would know his banks...No offense...

“God hates me!”

Since: May 07

West Texas, USA

#89 Oct 18, 2008
Misti Wilde wrote:
<quoted text>It FELT illegal. Lol. Hey Dante, what bank would you suggest I put my wad in right now??? You seem like the kind of guy that would know his banks...No offense...
I have all my finances thru Wells Fargo.... they handle my accounts, mortgage and brokerage accts and I have been happy with them.

“Together for 24, legal for 5”

Since: Sep 07

Littleton, NH

#90 Oct 19, 2008
dante2810 wrote:
<quoted text>
I have all my finances thru Wells Fargo.... they handle my accounts, mortgage and brokerage accts and I have been happy with them.
I for one am a big fan of Vanguard for people who are getting started in the financial markets. They're a mutual organization whose only goal is to make money for their owners: The investors. All services are provided at cost, and their fund managers don't make the big multi-million dollar bonuses that for-profit money managers take home.

Many will argue that they do not have the most exciting fund line-up, but beginning investors should not be looking for excitement: They should be looking for steady management. Vanguard fulfills that requirement at the lowest cost in the industry.

Since: Sep 08

Dallas, TX

#91 Oct 20, 2008
dante2810 wrote:
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I have all my finances thru Wells Fargo.... they handle my accounts, mortgage and brokerage accts and I have been happy with them.
You're my second Wells Fargo vote. Know anything about Vanguard above me or Comerica?

OFFTOPIC ALERT!!!

I went ahead and pointed that out for you. Tough job. It takes a village.

“God hates me!”

Since: May 07

West Texas, USA

#92 Oct 20, 2008
Misti Wilde wrote:
<quoted text>You're my second Wells Fargo vote. Know anything about Vanguard above me or Comerica?
OFFTOPIC ALERT!!!
I went ahead and pointed that out for you. Tough job. It takes a village.
Sorry...have not heard of either of those. They are not here in our market.

“...feeling funny and free.”

Since: Oct 08

...still looking for it.

#93 Oct 27, 2008
Okay. Has Catch 22 also kicked out bitches for being too bitchy, drunk skanks for being too drunk and skanky etc...? I doubt it. I know some of the people (sort of) that frequent this bar and I'm not surprised one bit. Sad but true. I'm sure there are better places to be gay and just be for that matter. Catch 22 is no prize.
JPW

Watseka, IL

#94 Nov 22, 2008
I am from Tuscaloosa, AL. My little blue box or whatever says I'm from California, I think. I don't know why. Anyways, I go to school at UA. Was this bar that this guy got kicked out of on The Strip? Just curious.
JPW

Wilmer, AL

#95 Nov 22, 2008
mixed wrote:
With a name like "Catch 22" who is this bar trying to attract? Using a double entendre as a name of your bar is inviting the gay community to check you out.
I'm from Tuscaloosa, my little blue box says California for some reason. Anyways, I've never even heard of that bar. But they shouldn't have kicked that guy out. If he was making trouble, I guess they could've, though.

Since: Nov 08

Mount Olive, AL

#96 Dec 6, 2008
I was in catch 22 last night (december 4th) and there were some people there that I knew to be gay. I did notice however that the bar was not nearly as gay as it used to be. Mostly middle aged yuppies. Real estate people and such.
natalie

Los Angeles, CA

#97 Dec 18, 2008
Tom in Houston wrote:
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Very few in T-town are out. Mainly they drive an hour to Bham to live out. Its a small minded small town (150k pop)(even though it is a college town) with one bar. The population there, even for Alabama is considered to be VERY conservative.
I agree with you on every point you made in the above comment with the exception of one thing. Tuscaloosa has more than one bar. in fact it has at least forty bars... i'm not sure how this fact could be overlooked as 15-20 of them are right next to eachother in temerson square...

Since: Nov 08

United States

#98 Dec 20, 2008
I'm a Tuscaloosa native and I agree that Tuscaloosa is for the most part conservative but I don't think you could say by Alabama standards. Birmingham and Huntsville are less conservative overall but I can't really think of anywhere else. If you really want to see hard core conservative just go to any small rural town in Alabama.
Yes Tuscaloosa has many bars but no longer has any bar that could be considered a gay bar. The Chukker, which was gay friendly but not totally gay closed in 2003. Michael's, which was THE gay bar closed in 2007. The gay population has been scatered out ever since.
Get Over It

Kodak, TN

#99 Dec 28, 2008
Sounds like he is just trying to draw attention to the fact that he is a queer and get attention or special treatment.
dances with weebles

São Bernardo Do Campo, Brazil

#100 Dec 28, 2008
dante2810 wrote:
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You just validated my point. YOU assumed it was your sexuality that got you kicked out. Could it have been that you were too loud, or obnoxious or even sarcastic?
I am not defending the customer nor the bar. I look at things like this objectivly so that I don't go off running and screaming discrimination every time someone doesn't agree with me or like the way I am.
Trust me, there people get kicked out of bars all the time for one reason or another. Usually what the bar sees and what the customer sees are always different. And in this story, all we have been given is two different stories with nothing else to support them.
So you can stand all proud and tell the world to F-Off all u want. But if you are in a bar where I am trying to have a nice time with friends and you are being loud, obnoxious and making scenes because it is "who you are", then I will applaud any bar owner that kicks your ass out for the comfort of everyone else.
Us being gay does not give us the right to be assholes in public and expect everyone else to accept it.
i have known straight men who have been thrown out of bars for acting too macho. being too extreme is the same, no matter which side of this debate you're on.

tell me, what's the difference between being gay and obnoxious and being straight and obnoxious?

“Together for 24, legal for 5”

Since: Sep 07

Littleton, NH

#101 Dec 28, 2008
Where did any witness say that anyone was loud and obnoxious? We have only one side of the story. Perhaps the other side is that he was drunk and obnoxious, but assuming that he was is purely speculative.

You guys are playing blame-the-victim with a vengance.
anony mouse

Tuscaloosa, AL

#102 Aug 25, 2009
Tuscaloosa is conservative in a very obnoxious way. There may be other parts of Alabama that are really conservative but they aren't as loud about it. It's a town full of young people from mostly more rural places in Alabama that have never seen ANY diversity. If you're gay or could even possibly be mistaken for gay (by meat-head Alabama redneck standards) then you're a target. You can go in to Egans or the Pub, but besides that you aren't going to be safe. Certain bars you'll be attacked, stay away from the red shed! Other bars you'll get gay bashed and most likely it's easier to throw the queer out than 5-10 paying customers. I grew up in Alabama but it's a shithole if you aren't a straight white conservative.
walt kolwaski

Sycamore, IL

#103 Aug 26, 2009
For starters , this "article" came from a blog called "queers united" . What does that tell ya right there . This is not a credible article . Is there such a thing as to gay , I think so . Some gays are way way out there and try to shove being gay down our throats (no pun intended). I personally don't think it is the greatest lifestyle (and I do believe it is a lifestyle not something you are born with ) but I can live with it , just mind your own business and be respectful of others . That is the same motto I would use for any other group who are basically harmless but one off the norm . It comes down to this , it was a bar , people were drinking or doing who knows what else . Stuff is going to happen in these environments . One last note , as a straight person I don't think a website called queers united is a very good reflection on someone being gay . Be safe !
Gay Tuscaloosan

Astoria, NY

#104 Sep 3, 2009
Tom in Houston wrote:
A little background on Tuscalooser Alabama (where, including the U of Alabama, the prettist building in town is the WalMart)...
There are TWO Alabamas. One is in Mobile and Huntsville and Birmingham. And then there is Tuscaloosa...
Here's who represents T-town in the State Leg.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/04/26/eve...
Huntsville, Birmingham? Really? Tuscaloosa is absolutely beautiful. Unfortunately you will find intolerance in most cities in the south, big and small, but to say the prettiest thing in Tuscaloosa is the Wal-Mart is clearly written by someone who either has never been to Tuscaloosa and seen the many historical buildings and old plantations or spent too much time at the local Wal-Mart to remember much else.
Larry

United States

#105 Sep 4, 2009
McMike wrote:
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Yup, this guy must be making it up <sarcasm with a hint of f'u). What is it with some of you? I have been kicked out of a bar and even though they didn't come out and say it was for me being gay I can assure you that was the case. I've been in the same situation as this guy however mine was a bit more extreme. Instead of the owner saying she didn't like gays I had a customer tell me I was bound to be attacked for being gay. But you know, I stayed out and proud in that hick town and I can assure you I had quite an effect on most of the guys showing them they didn't have to be ashamed of being in-any-way-shape-or-form queer.
I'd like to punch you right in the face!

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