Life-at-fertilization initiative has ...

Life-at-fertilization initiative has hope in Miss.

There are 2671 comments on the Centre Daily Times story from Oct 17, 2011, titled Life-at-fertilization initiative has hope in Miss.. In it, Centre Daily Times reports that:

In this June 6, 2011 file photo, Ezekiel Sowell, 7, right,of Tupelo, Miss., sings during a prayer rally for the Personhood Amendment at the Capitol in Jackson, Miss.

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zef

Los Angeles, CA

#2512 Mar 24, 2013
anon wrote:
"God didn't provide you with a reproductive system"
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That is right there is no God that provides. You have no obligations at all, only the will to survive. You can pass your genes on but it is not a requirement for your own survival.
Survival is more tolerable when you do good things. It be forced to do them does not provide the happiness it only makes life hell. Rights are given and enforced by government you have no natural rights as stated b the government. The creator could just be your parents.
I once had a Political Science professor who proudly stood left of Lenin on most social issues. But after volunteering at a hospital to treat crack babies, she grew to despise the addicts who were having 5-6 children, and abandoning them with all their health ailments for someone else to take care of. She suggested a policy that would give repeat offenders a choice: if you abandon more than two crack babies, you either go to jail or have your tubes tied. Reasonable, or tyrannical?
If you don't have a reproductive system. Why are you so concerned with abortion? Only those god deemed worthy of having a reproductive system are capable of killing their babies with abortion. Which is an affront to god and humanity. Just like you have an obligation not to drive drunk and kill people with your automobile. You have an obligation not to fornicate and kill people with abortion.
Rod Knox

Tupelo, MS

#2514 Mar 24, 2013
zef needs to get out from under that rock and realize that the US worships the Wall St Bull. Rupert Murdoch owns CBN and his Wall St bunch write the scripts for that station and most other fundamentalist television preachers follow CBN's lead. CBN and the 700 Club are just Fox Light with hymnals.

Napoleon said it best, "religion keeps the poor from murdering the rich."
anon

Tupelo, MS

#2515 Mar 24, 2013
"Only those god deemed worthy of having a reproductive system are capable of killing their babies with abortion. "
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Exactly who said the did not have a reproductive system? I said there is no proof anything is a God.
The concept is a belief and not a reality. Abortion has nothing to do with babies it has to do with a fetus. You do not have an obligation not to drive drunk you have survival to deal with. If you die and take others with you it has been done before many times. Perhaps the automobile is the problem. Death is not something to fear it is the end of you and your soul.
zef

Los Angeles, CA

#2516 Mar 24, 2013
anon wrote:
"Only those god deemed worthy of having a reproductive system are capable of killing their babies with abortion. "
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Exactly who said the did not have a reproductive system? I said there is no proof anything is a God.
The concept is a belief and not a reality. Abortion has nothing to do with babies it has to do with a fetus. You do not have an obligation not to drive drunk you have survival to deal with. If you die and take others with you it has been done before many times. Perhaps the automobile is the problem. Death is not something to fear it is the end of you and your soul.
If you weren't provided with a reproductive system that means you don't have a reproductive system. If you do have a reproductive system, than you must have been provided with one. If, as you say, god did not provide you with your reproductive system, than you must know who or what did. In as much as you failed to elude to who or what provided you with your reproductive system, other than god, either you don't have a reproductive system, or god did in fact provide you with your reproductive system.
If we don't have an obligation not to drive drunk. Than why are their so many laws against drunk driving? Do you really think telling people its ok to drive drunk is such a wise thing to do?

When a pregnant woman drinks alcohol, so does her unborn baby. Alcohol in the mother's blood passes through the placenta to the baby through the umbilical cord. Drinking alcohol during pregnancy can cause miscarriage, stillbirth, and a range of lifelong disorders, known as fetal alcohol spectrum disorders (FASDs). There is no known safe time to drink alcohol during pregnancy. Drinking alcohol in the first three months of pregnancy can cause the baby to have abnormal facial features. Growth and central nervous system problems (e.g., low birthweight, behavioral problems) can occur from drinking alcohol anytime during pregnancy. The baby’s brain is developing throughout pregnancy and can be damaged at any time.
If a woman is drinking alcohol during pregnancy, it is never too late to stop. The sooner a woman stops drinking, the better it will be for both her baby and herself.
Centers for Disease Control and Prevention 1600 Clifton Rd. Atlanta, GA 30333, USA
800-CDC-INFO (800-232-4636) TTY:(888) 232-6348
http://www.cdc.gov/ncbddd/fasd/index.html
anon

Tupelo, MS

#2517 Mar 25, 2013
"If, as you say, god did not provide you with your reproductive system, than you must know who or what did."
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Why did it have to be provided? In the quantum world things appear and disappear all the time.
Man makes laws based on who is in-charge at the time. If you do not accept control you have no laws only the probability of getting into problems. The odds are you can find a problem with a few repeat actions in driving drunk. That does not stop people, the same in having sex. Humans follow emotions such as the belief in God and drinking rather than probabilities. There are few wise people that understand cause and effect.

Why do we live in a time dimension that only goes forward?

“Define Necessity”

Since: Mar 13

FOR YOURSELF

#2518 Mar 25, 2013
anon wrote:
Nothing in life and death is fair it all depends on survival abilities. Those that make children that they can not support die plain and simple. It is called evolution. If someone wants to have emotions and keep others alive let them have at it but when you force a emotional attitude on life it back fires. Many will suffer and die due to lack of resources. It is called reality.
"Companies like the U.S.-based Monsanto claim that their genetically modified (GM) seeds offer the most effective solution to feeding the world's growing population, but on the ground, many small-scale farmers are losing their land. Nowhere is the situation more desperate than in India, where an epidemic of farmer suicides has claimed over a quarter million lives. Every 30 minutes one farmer in India, deep in debt and unable to provide for his family, commits suicide. "
In Hungary (how ironic is this??) they burned the GMO crops, and banned the seeds forever.

We should have done the same.

“Define Necessity”

Since: Mar 13

FOR YOURSELF

#2519 Mar 25, 2013
anon wrote:
"God didn't provide you with a reproductive system"
==========
That is right there is no God that provides. You have no obligations at all, only the will to survive. You can pass your genes on but it is not a requirement for your own survival.
Survival is more tolerable when you do good things. It be forced to do them does not provide the happiness it only makes life hell. Rights are given and enforced by government you have no natural rights as stated b the government. The creator could just be your parents.
I once had a Political Science professor who proudly stood left of Lenin on most social issues. But after volunteering at a hospital to treat crack babies, she grew to despise the addicts who were having 5-6 children, and abandoning them with all their health ailments for someone else to take care of. She suggested a policy that would give repeat offenders a choice: if you abandon more than two crack babies, you either go to jail or have your tubes tied. Reasonable, or tyrannical?
Please don't confuse it further - it's already having trouble with the concept of women having free will, and the fact that a baby is a born entity.

Pretty sure 'ZEF' is an alien species unto itself...not sure when it learned to walk upright, much less type.
zef

Los Angeles, CA

#2520 Mar 25, 2013
anon wrote:
"If, as you say, god did not provide you with your reproductive system, than you must know who or what did."
==========
Why did it have to be provided? In the quantum world things appear and disappear all the time.
Man makes laws based on who is in-charge at the time. If you do not accept control you have no laws only the probability of getting into problems. The odds are you can find a problem with a few repeat actions in driving drunk. That does not stop people, the same in having sex. Humans follow emotions such as the belief in God and drinking rather than probabilities. There are few wise people that understand cause and effect.
Why do we live in a time dimension that only goes forward?
What things appear and disappear without explanation? Your notion that since laws against murder and rape do not stop murder and rape from occuring, there should be no laws against murder and rape is the notion of a demented psychopath. Such as the demented psychopaths that legalized abortion.
zef

Los Angeles, CA

#2521 Mar 25, 2013
dedbebbies wrote:
<quoted text>Please don't confuse it further - it's already having trouble with the concept of women having free will, and the fact that a baby is a born entity.
Pretty sure 'ZEF' is an alien species unto itself...not sure when it learned to walk upright, much less type.
When a pregnant woman drinks alcohol, so does her unborn baby. Alcohol in the mother's blood passes through the placenta to the baby through the umbilical cord. Drinking alcohol during pregnancy can cause miscarriage, stillbirth, and a range of lifelong disorders, known as fetal alcohol spectrum disorders (FASDs). There is no known safe time to drink alcohol during pregnancy. Drinking alcohol in the first three months of pregnancy can cause the baby to have abnormal facial features. Growth and central nervous system problems (e.g., low birthweight, behavioral problems) can occur from drinking alcohol anytime during pregnancy. The baby’s brain is developing throughout pregnancy and can be damaged at any time.
If a woman is drinking alcohol during pregnancy, it is never too late to stop. The sooner a woman stops drinking, the better it will be for both her baby and herself.
Centers for Disease Control and Prevention 1600 Clifton Rd. Atlanta, GA 30333, USA
800-CDC-INFO (800-232-4636) TTY:(888) 232-6348
http://www.cdc.gov/ncbddd/fasd/index.html
anon

Tupelo, MS

#2522 Mar 25, 2013
"What things appear and disappear without explanation?"
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Electrons for one. Ever learn about entanglement?

What we need are better parents or they should not be parents at all. If they can not afford the time energy and cost of a child they should not have one. It would go a long way to stop creating psychopaths that believe God will forgive them.

There are many Government (FDA) foods approved for humans that harm them including the EPA water you drink. No one gets out of life alive. Church creates a life long disorder as it replaces reality with an imaginary God.
zef

Los Angeles, CA

#2523 Mar 25, 2013
anon wrote:
"What things appear and disappear without explanation?"
==========
Electrons for one. Ever learn about entanglement?
What we need are better parents or they should not be parents at all. If they can not afford the time energy and cost of a child they should not have one. It would go a long way to stop creating psychopaths that believe God will forgive them.
There are many Government (FDA) foods approved for humans that harm them including the EPA water you drink. No one gets out of life alive. Church creates a life long disorder as it replaces reality with an imaginary God.
Parents have to have a child to get an abortion. All abortion does is kill the child that they have. Do you kill everyone that incinviences you, or just innocent defenseless babies?

In as much as energy is conserved in closed systems in relativity, the mass of a system is also a quantity which is conserved: this means it does not change over time, even as some types of particles are converted to others. For any given observer, the mass of any system is separately conserved and cannot change over time, just as energy is separately conserved and cannot change over time. The incorrect popular idea that mass may be converted to (massless) energy in relativity is because some matter particles may in some cases be converted to types of energy which are not matter (such as light, kinetic energy, and the potential energy in magnetic, electric, and other fields). However, this confuses "matter" (a non-conserved and ill-defined thing) with mass (which is well-defined and is conserved). Even if not considered "matter," all types of energy still continue to exhibit mass in relativity. Thus, mass and energy do not change into one another in relativity; rather, both are names for the same thing, and neither mass nor energy appear without the other. "Matter" particles may not be conserved in reactions in relativity, but closed-system mass always is.
For example, a nuclear bomb in an idealized super-strong box, sitting on a scale, would in theory show no change in mass when detonated (although the inside of the box would become much hotter). In such a system, the mass of the box would change only if energy were allowed to escape from the box as light or heat. However, in that case, the removed energy would take its associated mass with it. Letting heat out of such a system is simply a way to remove mass. Thus, mass, like energy, cannot be destroyed, but only moved from one place to another
Rod Knox

Tupelo, MS

#2524 Mar 25, 2013
I think zef has watched too many episodes of BIG BANG THEORY. Forty years ago the over the top STAR TREK fans were Trekies. Do we now have Bangies? Or maybe Banglies?

Anyway, I don't think that the quantum theories from that television programs script are anything but entertaining drivel and are scientifically irrelevant. Someone beam zef up to anon's ivory tower.
anon

Tupelo, MS

#2525 Mar 25, 2013
Mass is created by higgs boson, Higgs field, which is pivotal to the Standard Model and other theories within particle physics, where it explains why some fundamental particles have mass when the symmetries controlling their interactions should require them to be massless, and—linked to this—why the weak force has a much shorter range than the electromagnetic force.
The universe is not a closed system not to mention the other dimensions. Higgs is the God partical. I see you never learned about entanglement.

Parents have to of had sex to create zygote if even the are parents it does not take parents to create just two genders. Babies are not part of the women's anatomy they do not become a mother till it is born.
A zygote is not a being.
zef

Los Angeles, CA

#2526 Mar 25, 2013
anon wrote:
Mass is created by higgs boson, Higgs field, which is pivotal to the Standard Model and other theories within particle physics, where it explains why some fundamental particles have mass when the symmetries controlling their interactions should require them to be massless, and—linked to this—why the weak force has a much shorter range than the electromagnetic force.
The universe is not a closed system not to mention the other dimensions. Higgs is the God partical. I see you never learned about entanglement.
Parents have to of had sex to create zygote if even the are parents it does not take parents to create just two genders. Babies are not part of the women's anatomy they do not become a mother till it is born.
A zygote is not a being.
Parents create offspring (another human), some people call that offspring zygote at the beginning of his or her lifespan. Responsible parents call their offsping baby at beginning of their offsprings life. Female babies have to mature to adolescents and become pregnant to be mothers. It is impossible for any human to become a mother at birth. And some female babies are never capable of being mothers. No male babies can ever be mothers.

The law of conservation of mass, or principle of mass conservation, states that for any system closed to all transfers of matter and energy (both of which have mass), the mass of the system must remain constant over time, as system mass cannot change quantity if it is not added or removed. Hence, the quantity of mass is "conserved" over time. The law implies that mass can neither be created nor destroyed, although it may be rearranged in space, or the entities associated with it may be changed in form, as for example when light or physical work is transformed into particles that contribute the same mass to the system as the light or work had contributed.
anon

Tupelo, MS

#2527 Mar 25, 2013
Two genders do not become parents till a child is born just as a women is not a mother till the fetus is separated.

As far as the law of conservation it does not apply to quantum and entanglement is when two electrons communicate faster than the speed of light to copy each other. The law of conservation has little to do with partials appearing and disappearing due to chaos theory.

You have a poor science training as well as a belief system that is not based on reality.
zef

Los Angeles, CA

#2528 Mar 25, 2013
anon wrote:
Two genders do not become parents till a child is born just as a women is not a mother till the fetus is separated.
As far as the law of conservation it does not apply to quantum and entanglement is when two electrons communicate faster than the speed of light to copy each other. The law of conservation has little to do with partials appearing and disappearing due to chaos theory.
You have a poor science training as well as a belief system that is not based on reality.
If a woman is pregnant with a baby she is the mother of that baby. A mother is a parent.
When a pregnant woman drinks alcohol, so does her unborn baby. Alcohol in the mother's blood passes through the placenta to the baby through the umbilical cord. Drinking alcohol during pregnancy can cause miscarriage, stillbirth, and a range of lifelong disorders, known as fetal alcohol spectrum disorders (FASDs). There is no known safe time to drink alcohol during pregnancy. Drinking alcohol in the first three months of pregnancy can cause the baby to have abnormal facial features. Growth and central nervous system problems (e.g., low birthweight, behavioral problems) can occur from drinking alcohol anytime during pregnancy. The baby’s brain is developing throughout pregnancy and can be damaged at any time.
If a woman is drinking alcohol during pregnancy, it is never too late to stop. The sooner a woman stops drinking, the better it will be for both her baby and herself.
Centers for Disease Control and Prevention 1600 Clifton Rd. Atlanta, GA 30333, USA
800-CDC-INFO (800-232-4636) TTY:(888) 232-6348
http://www.cdc.gov/ncbddd/fasd/index.html

The Standard Model shows how the energy of the Higgs field and vacuum can manifest, in the right conditions, as the property we call 'mass'. But the Higgs field is not actually "creating" mass miraculously out of nothing (which would violate the law of conservation of energy). In Higgs-based theories, mass is a manifestation of potential energy transferred to the particle during interactions ("coupling") with the Higgs field, which had contained that mass in the form of energy.
anon

Tupelo, MS

#2529 Mar 26, 2013
A pregnant women expects a baby and is not a parent yet. She has a fetus. Just as mass is energy without the god particle. Humans are nothing but energy in space. We have no organized part that continues after death.
zef

Los Angeles, CA

#2530 Mar 26, 2013
anon wrote:
A pregnant women expects a baby and is not a parent yet. She has a fetus. Just as mass is energy without the god particle. Humans are nothing but energy in space. We have no organized part that continues after death.
A pregnant woman is a mother. A mother is a parent.
When a pregnant woman drinks alcohol, so does her unborn baby. Alcohol in the mother's blood passes through the placenta to the baby through the umbilical cord. Drinking alcohol during pregnancy can cause miscarriage, stillbirth, and a range of lifelong disorders, known as fetal alcohol spectrum disorders (FASDs). There is no known safe time to drink alcohol during pregnancy. Drinking alcohol in the first three months of pregnancy can cause the baby to have abnormal facial features. Growth and central nervous system problems (e.g., low birthweight, behavioral problems) can occur from drinking alcohol anytime during pregnancy. The baby’s brain is developing throughout pregnancy and can be damaged at any time.
If a woman is drinking alcohol during pregnancy, it is never too late to stop. The sooner a woman stops drinking, the better it will be for both her baby and herself.
Centers for Disease Control and Prevention 1600 Clifton Rd. Atlanta, GA 30333, USA
800-CDC-INFO (800-232-4636) TTY:(888) 232-6348
http://www.cdc.gov/ncbddd/fasd/index.html
Mass cannot be converted to energy. Mass is a constant that can be either matter or energy. Matter can be convertyed to energy, and energy can be converted to matter.
anon

Tupelo, MS

#2531 Mar 26, 2013
Although apparent, mass is not generated by the Higgs field, as creation of matter or energy would conflict with the laws of conservation; it is, however, transferred to particles from the field, which contains the relative mass in the form of energy. Once the field has endowed a formerly massless particle it slows down because it has become heavier, therefore giving other particles the chance to latch onto it using the electromagnetic force.

Crack babies are support by the government for their life.
zef

Los Angeles, CA

#2532 Mar 26, 2013
anon wrote:
Although apparent, mass is not generated by the Higgs field, as creation of matter or energy would conflict with the laws of conservation; it is, however, transferred to particles from the field, which contains the relative mass in the form of energy. Once the field has endowed a formerly massless particle it slows down because it has become heavier, therefore giving other particles the chance to latch onto it using the electromagnetic force.
Crack babies are support by the government for their life.
So massless particles aren't really particals, rather a force that paticles can attatch to converting energy to matter?

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