Dalton's Hamilton Medical Center anno...

Dalton's Hamilton Medical Center announces layoffs

There are 104 comments on the The Chattanooga Times Free Press story from Oct 26, 2010, titled Dalton's Hamilton Medical Center announces layoffs. In it, The Chattanooga Times Free Press reports that:

Hamilton Health Care System in Dalton, Ga., is eliminating about 140 positions as part of an effort to cut $12 million from its budget, officials said Tuesday.

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1 Nurse

Dalton, GA

#41 Oct 29, 2010
TheSmartGuy wrote:
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I can't find a recent one. I can only find the one for 2006, and if I'm reading that right the CEO made over $900k/year?
You got it....the ones for 2008 are posted and teh CEO made over $1 million. As someone who works there,I'm honestly not sure what he does besides get rid of people. Nothing good has happened since he's come. Maybe if he took a cut in pay (or just left), HMC could save some money and the people who actually work could stay.
curious

Fitzgerald, GA

#42 Oct 30, 2010
knowsone wrote:
<quoted text> The snotty ones are the recent hires. They need to be given a drug test for sure.
What you say about the drug test makes me wonder because he had one young nurse(one of the snotty ones)who would only give him one of his 5mg loratabs for his broken hip and diabetic neuropathy pain when he was allowed 2 if needed.The orders were written up as 1 or 2 every 4 hours.All the other nurses would go ahead and give him 2 because of his severe pain.I wondered why she only wanted to give him 1 and what did she do with the other pill.She would almost insist to give him only one untill I told her he needed 2 and I expected him to get 2 pills just like all the other nurses would give him.
curious

Fitzgerald, GA

#43 Oct 30, 2010
Does anyone know why our a lot of our local doctors no longer make calls to Hamilton anymore?I recieved a letter from my doctor saying if his patitents are admitted to Hamilton he will not be coming to the hospital and a hospitalist will be seeing me while I am hospitalized.I was not impressed at all with the hospitalist my husband had while admitted he never saw the same one more than twice.
Good Information

Dalton, GA

#44 Oct 31, 2010
TheSmartGuy wrote:
<quoted text>
I can't find a recent one. I can only find the one for 2006, and if I'm reading that right the CEO made over $900k/year?
It is there for 08 report.
Deal With It

Cleveland, TN

#45 Nov 1, 2010
Bullet points.
1) previous regime put into place loads of "clip board carrying" positions.
2) Yes, upper mgt paid too much.
3) Tons of HMC's clientel moved away when jobs moved away. Don't exactly need expanded women's center if there of no pregnant mothers to fill it.
4) Bad people (not just nurses) are employed in every walk of life. There is a nursing shortage. Don't exactly have pick of crop when hiring.
5) The idea of "I'll go to Erlanger or Memorial" is a joke. Guess what, bad stuff happens their too. They also run a business and plan on making money.
6) It seems that the HMC board knew some tough decisions had to be made and brought in an axe man to take care of it.
7) As far as "monopolies" go. Does Gordon in Calhoun, Skyridge in Cleveland, Redmond in Rome have monopolies? Do you think there should be another hospital in each town. No! These are simply appropriatly sized facilities for there town. These towns couldn't sustain competition. The competition is Chattanooga and Atlanta.
These are the suck realities that HMC staff and the community are dealing with.
Now, stay on topic and deal with it as best you can. Sorry to everyone that lost their job, even upper mgt. It's not your fault you were paid too much!
wondering

Dalton, GA

#46 Nov 1, 2010
Good Information wrote:
<quoted text>
might just want to look up on the internet Find Form 990 for Hamilton Medical Center and you can see the salaries of HMC exects.
Please give me the link to where I can find this info. I have looked and can't find it. Thank you! I think info like this should be public knowledge! Good for you for finding it and sharing it with us!
nurse

Dalton, GA

#47 Nov 1, 2010
I heard they got rid of alot of good staff today. I was under the impression that it was going to be both RNs and LPNs, but from what I have heard they only let some of the LPNs go.
Good Information

Dalton, GA

#48 Nov 1, 2010
wondering wrote:
<quoted text>
Please give me the link to where I can find this info. I have looked and can't find it. Thank you! I think info like this should be public knowledge! Good for you for finding it and sharing it with us!
Go to Google and type find form 990. You will see several options to look under find one and look up Hamilton Medical Center at Dalton GA. You will see it as an option.
1 Nurse

Dalton, GA

#49 Nov 1, 2010
nurse wrote:
I heard they got rid of alot of good staff today. I was under the impression that it was going to be both RNs and LPNs, but from what I have heard they only let some of the LPNs go.
Jeff Meyers is an idiot...and has totally aligned himself with the wrong people. They let many LPN's go today. HMC is full of RN's , but they are mostly new grads. I believe he is nothing more than an axe man....maybe they will ax him next.
Good Information

Dalton, GA

#50 Nov 1, 2010
Deal With It wrote:
Bullet points.
1) previous regime put into place loads of "clip board carrying" positions.
2) Yes, upper mgt paid too much.
3) Tons of HMC's clientel moved away when jobs moved away. Don't exactly need expanded women's center if there of no pregnant mothers to fill it.
4) Bad people (not just nurses) are employed in every walk of life. There is a nursing shortage. Don't exactly have pick of crop when hiring.
5) The idea of "I'll go to Erlanger or Memorial" is a joke. Guess what, bad stuff happens their too. They also run a business and plan on making money.
6) It seems that the HMC board knew some tough decisions had to be made and brought in an axe man to take care of it.
7) As far as "monopolies" go. Does Gordon in Calhoun, Skyridge in Cleveland, Redmond in Rome have monopolies? Do you think there should be another hospital in each town. No! These are simply appropriatly sized facilities for there town. These towns couldn't sustain competition. The competition is Chattanooga and Atlanta.
These are the suck realities that HMC staff and the community are dealing with.
Now, stay on topic and deal with it as best you can. Sorry to everyone that lost their job, even upper mgt. It's not your fault you were paid too much!
GREAT points you stated. Wish others saw it this way. It is business and the fact of making money. Supply and Demand!!!
nurse

Dalton, GA

#51 Nov 1, 2010
1 Nurse wrote:
<quoted text>
Jeff Meyers is an idiot...and has totally aligned himself with the wrong people. They let many LPN's go today. HMC is full of RN's , but they are mostly new grads. I believe he is nothing more than an axe man....maybe they will ax him next.
I am a RN that works there and I hated to see these LPN's go. I know many RNs that have had several write ups for major issues and they kept their jobs. Yet they can let people go who have never been written up and have dedicated most of their lives to this hospital. Patient care is gonna suffer because the nurses that patients are always complaining about are the ones that kept their jobs.
Nurse 2

United States

#52 Nov 1, 2010
I agree with you! I think HMC needs to look at the backbone of the company. I dont understand why getting rid of LPN's is such a push. They will have to pay out tons more money to pay wages for RN's and just think of the liability of staffing units with new grad nurses. I dont get it. If they are getting rid of LPN's because they have did stuff wrong then the same needs be done with RN's. We are ALL human stuff.....happens...RN's are not perfect...LPN's are not perfect....This was not thought out!
Rocky Face BCBS insured

Dalton, GA

#53 Nov 1, 2010
Maybe in the beginning of the managed healthcare rollout with PPO's and the like, getting in the insurance business was a good thing with fairly stable clients(the carpet companies) and having the Docs in your pocket(the PHS referred to in the Dailey Citizen. It was a cakewalk. Now that OBama care has thrown out pre-existing condition exemptions and other issues that might actually require actuarial scrutiny, something real insurance companies pay for, Health One and Alliant know they are in over their heads and really don't want to compete with the larger insurers. Those that are excepted anyplace but Dalton. The paper referred to providers in Macon and South of Dalton but I wonder if it was only emergency care of if it was non-emergent and reimbursed as out of network. BTW Beaulieu, an Alliant user, just lost q $100 million dollar contract with HOme Depot and employees are taking voluntary time off. They will be the next besides Whitfield County and Mohawk to look for lower cost alternatives than Alliant. A former CEO accused Dalton physicians of being lazy because they only wanted to do knees instead of hip replacements cause they could do more of them per day for more money. So hip patients would go to Calhoun or Chattanooga for treatment. So don't feel any pity for your local DOcs. Most hospitals in other areas have them on contract for just this reason instead of independent operators calling all the shots. Don't think that Alliant and Physician Health Services didn't have a vested interest in installing their puppet, making 2 MILLION, Jeff Myers.
Deal With It

Cleveland, TN

#54 Nov 1, 2010
"A former CEO accused Dalton physicians of being lazy because they only wanted to do knees instead of hip replacements cause they could do more of them per day for more money."
Rocky Face BCBS insured

For the record, most ortho's can complete total hips much faster than total knees. So this make no sense. Gotta know what cha talkin bout. Guess the "former" CEO dosn't know what he's takling about. I wonder if anyone puts the blame on the former CEO, Mr. Boling, for putting HMC in this position? Kind of like blaming Obama for Busch's bad economic policies. I'm not an Obama supporter, so don't even go there. I say this as a point of comparison.

Since: Aug 09

Greenville, SC

#55 Nov 2, 2010
Deal With It wrote:
Bullet points.
1) previous regime put into place loads of "clip board carrying" positions.
2) Yes, upper mgt paid too much.
3) Tons of HMC's clientel moved away when jobs moved away. Don't exactly need expanded women's center if there of no pregnant mothers to fill it.
4) Bad people (not just nurses) are employed in every walk of life. There is a nursing shortage. Don't exactly have pick of crop when hiring.
5) The idea of "I'll go to Erlanger or Memorial" is a joke. Guess what, bad stuff happens their too. They also run a business and plan on making money.
6) It seems that the HMC board knew some tough decisions had to be made and brought in an axe man to take care of it.
7) As far as "monopolies" go. Does Gordon in Calhoun, Skyridge in Cleveland, Redmond in Rome have monopolies? Do you think there should be another hospital in each town. No! These are simply appropriatly sized facilities for there town. These towns couldn't sustain competition. The competition is Chattanooga and Atlanta.
These are the suck realities that HMC staff and the community are dealing with.
Now, stay on topic and deal with it as best you can. Sorry to everyone that lost their job, even upper mgt. It's not your fault you were paid too much!
5) The idea of "I'll go to Erlanger or Memorial" is a joke. Guess what, bad stuff happens their too. They also run a business and plan on making money.

True but my out of pocket will be less at those 2 places.

7) As far as "monopolies" go. Does Gordon in Calhoun, Skyridge in Cleveland, Redmond in Rome have monopolies? Do you think there should be another hospital in each town. No! These are simply appropriatly sized facilities for there town. These towns couldn't sustain competition. The competition is Chattanooga and Atlanta.
These are the suck realities that HMC staff and the community are dealing with.

We're referring to the Health Care monopoly, not the hospital monopoly. Alliant and Health One insurances are calling the shots at the hospital, and it's causing a massive shortfall in funds.
So Sad

Chatsworth, GA

#56 Nov 2, 2010
The bottom dollar has been discussed quite a bit, money is necessary to operate a business. What has been discussed little is the human factor. Since the preparation for Michael Rindler began in June, things began to downhill rapidly. Employees began to fade away and departments began to restructure. Department heads began counting dollars and rumors ran rampant. This week ends 6 months of trauma and torture, many beloved friends and co-workers are gone. These people were not incompetent or lacking, they just factored into numbers for their high paid supervisors. The Hamilton Medical Center that has been so active in our community no longer exists. These employees have devoted many years to this facility, and should have been rewarded for their dedication. Michael Rindler as done his job, and has left a wake of destruction. For interest, Google this man. You can now see where the well spent money from Hamilton has gone. I think we should all be sad, our community has lost much.
nurse

Dalton, GA

#57 Nov 3, 2010
Did anyone notice that some of the jobs of the people eliminated this week are already posted on Hamilton's web site ? They got rid of good experienced people, only to hire new ones at a lower rate of pay.
just curious

Byron, GA

#58 Nov 3, 2010
Rocky Face BCBS insured wrote:
Maybe in the beginning of the managed healthcare rollout with PPO's and the like, getting in the insurance business was a good thing with fairly stable clients(the carpet companies) and having the Docs in your pocket(the PHS referred to in the Dailey Citizen. It was a cakewalk. Now that OBama care has thrown out pre-existing condition exemptions and other issues that might actually require actuarial scrutiny, something real insurance companies pay for, Health One and Alliant know they are in over their heads and really don't want to compete with the larger insurers. Those that are excepted anyplace but Dalton. The paper referred to providers in Macon and South of Dalton but I wonder if it was only emergency care of if it was non-emergent and reimbursed as out of network. BTW Beaulieu, an Alliant user, just lost q $100 million dollar contract with HOme Depot and employees are taking voluntary time off. They will be the next besides Whitfield County and Mohawk to look for lower cost alternatives than Alliant. A former CEO accused Dalton physicians of being lazy because they only wanted to do knees instead of hip replacements cause they could do more of them per day for more money. So hip patients would go to Calhoun or Chattanooga for treatment. So don't feel any pity for your local DOcs. Most hospitals in other areas have them on contract for just this reason instead of independent operators calling all the shots. Don't think that Alliant and Physician Health Services didn't have a vested interest in installing their puppet, making 2 MILLION, Jeff Myers.
Do u know how beaulieu lost home depot. Or is this just a rumor?
Good Information

Dalton, GA

#59 Nov 3, 2010
Deal With It wrote:
"A former CEO accused Dalton physicians of being lazy because they only wanted to do knees instead of hip replacements cause they could do more of them per day for more money."
Rocky Face BCBS insured
For the record, most ortho's can complete total hips much faster than total knees. So this make no sense. Gotta know what cha talkin bout. Guess the "former" CEO dosn't know what he's takling about. I wonder if anyone puts the blame on the former CEO, Mr. Boling, for putting HMC in this position? Kind of like blaming Obama for Busch's bad economic policies. I'm not an Obama supporter, so don't even go there. I say this as a point of comparison.
Those in the know who is the real head that rund Hamilton Medical Center. Its not Boling, Myers or Howard they are only puppets. No one has yet to name the Head in Topix yet. These people got to where they are by doing what they were and are told thats just how Hamilton works!!!!
Boss Kean s ditch

Bristol, TN

#60 Nov 3, 2010
so what do the top puppets at murray make ?

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