Church of God of Prophecy rethinks position against divorce, re...

Full story: The Dickson Herald

As some 10,000 members of the Church of God of Prophecy gather in Nashville this week, the denomination will revisit its position that divorced people who remarry are committing adultery.
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estell

AOL

#1 Aug 24, 2006
the bible says it is a sin.what next for the church, sin is sin. if this was right any thing goes.
Dorna Chambers

Cleveland, OH

#2 Aug 29, 2006
estell wrote:
the bible says it is a sin.what next for the church, sin is sin. if this was right any thing goes.
I watched the General Assembly online. As a mother of a daughter who has been divorced, I can see this from both sides. I too believe what Jesus said about adultery. I agree it is sin. I believe also that sin can be cleansed by the blood of Jesus when one repents. Sometimes true repentance can only be seen by God as He judges the heart. I cried when I heard the discussions from opposers and those in support of changes. I can see it from both sides because both sides were stating what they believed from their hearts. Some most probably fear this may be opening up to the acceptance of other things like homosexuality. This is not easy for this church. My heart goes out to them. This recommendation does not mean that the church endorses or encourages divorce.
Sherry

Atlanta, GA

#3 Sep 5, 2006
Dorna Chambers wrote:
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I watched the General Assembly online. As a mother of a daughter who has been divorced, I can see this from both sides. I too believe what Jesus said about adultery. I agree it is sin. I believe also that sin can be cleansed by the blood of Jesus when one repents. Sometimes true repentance can only be seen by God as He judges the heart. I cried when I heard the discussions from opposers and those in support of changes. I can see it from both sides because both sides were stating what they believed from their hearts. Some most probably fear this may be opening up to the acceptance of other things like homosexuality. This is not easy for this church. My heart goes out to them. This recommendation does not mean that the church endorses or encourages divorce.
I do not agree with the decision that was made concerning adultery that the Bible clearly states is sin. No sin can enter heaven. Therefore what ever sin one has to repent of to become forgiven must also be forsaken.
Jim

Los Angeles, CA

#4 Sep 6, 2006
Sherry wrote:
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I do not agree with the decision that was made concerning adultery that the Bible clearly states is sin. No sin can enter heaven. Therefore what ever sin one has to repent of to become forgiven must also be forsaken.
There are many Scriptures in the Bible where it advises and even instructs us to do or not do but than there are Scriptures that boldly states that this or that is a sin and if you do this sin you will go to hell. I can't find in the Bible where it states if you do get remarried it is sin. Plenty of advice and instrution and warnings of neg. or positive results if you do leave your spouse or get remarried but never is it declared "sin" like other issues. I think we need to stick with what the Bible tells us is sin, not a man, committee, our traditions or organizations.
Vernon Caruthers

Spencer, TN

#5 Sep 13, 2006
It is so easy to be critical of those who have been married more than once. Those of us who have been blessed with faithful companions have no idea of the load someone carries when their spouse has been unfaithful. Jesus allowed divorce and remarriage when there was fornication involved. We have been given a ministry as the church to reach out to hurting people. I beleive God is merciful and forgiven. Remarriage is NOT THE UNPARDONABLE SIN. As a pastor in the Church of God of Prophecy I cannot feel comfortable in judging someone who says they are saved and they bear fruit that is evident of a saved life. I have members in my local church that have been in more than one marriage due to the fault of their spouse that left them for another woman or man, whichever the case may be. Jesus said that if we are guilty of one point of the law then we are guilty of the whole. I think we all should throw down our stones of judgment and walk away praying for these precious people who have been judged and hurt enough in the past! I belive this would be pleasing to Jesus
Harry

Burke, VA

#6 Sep 17, 2006
Jesus clearly states in Luke 16:18, Mat 5:32, Mat 19:9 that to marry one who is put away from a marriage commits adultry! What is sooooo hard about it?(you know, it is all about keeping tithing members, not obeying the Word)
Jim wrote:
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There are many Scriptures in the Bible where it advises and even instructs us to do or not do but than there are Scriptures that boldly states that this or that is a sin and if you do this sin you will go to hell. I can't find in the Bible where it states if you do get remarried it is sin. Plenty of advice and instrution and warnings of neg. or positive results if you do leave your spouse or get remarried but never is it declared "sin" like other issues. I think we need to stick with what the Bible tells us is sin, not a man, committee, our traditions or organizations.
mary

Travelers Rest, SC

#7 Sep 20, 2006
I do not wish to hurt anyone please know this, but I do believe you must do what the bible says not what your emotions say. I believe fornication to be what the church has always taught it to be, when a single man or woman married a person who already has a living companion that single person may leave that one with the compainion and marry another single person. If that is the case I do see where that single person can join the church. If I am wrong I want God to show me and I will ask for forgivness.
tony

Cape Coral, FL

#8 Sep 20, 2006
So what about Deuteronomy 24:1-4 ???

(John 8:4-11)"They say unto him, Master, this woman was taken in adultery, in the very act. Now Moses in the law commanded us, that such should be stoned: but what sayest thou? This they said, tempting him, that they might have to accuse him, But Jesus stooped down, and with his finger wrote on the ground, as though he heard them not. So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her. And again he stooped down, and wrote on the ground. And they which heard it, being convicted by their own conscience, went out one by one, beginning at the eldest, even unto the last: and Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst. When Jesus had lifted up himself, and saw none but the woman, he said unto her, Woman, where are those thine accusers? hath no man condemned thee? She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more".

One can commit adultery without divorcing his mate, as this sin can be committed in the heart.

"But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart" (Matthew 5:28).

for we have all sinned and fallen short of His perfection in many areas of our lives.

(James 2:10-13)"For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all. For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law. So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty. For he shall have judgment without mercy, that hath shewed no mercy; and mercy rejoiceth against judgment".
Danny Boone

United States

#9 Sep 23, 2006
A wise man told me don't argue with fools. People from a distance can't tell who's who. Morons.
Paul

Roanoke, VA

#10 Oct 6, 2006
The bible is so clear on divorce and remarriage. The guilty party cannot remarry. The innocent party can. If you marry a guilty individual you are guilty. If you stay with the guilty you are living in sin. It does not matter if 10,000 people meet to decide or 10 billion. What matters is what God said in the bible. Besides a denomination is a division and that too is against God's word. Also we are under the new law (new testament) so the old law does not bind us.
Amy

United States

#11 Oct 8, 2006
I remained in a marriage for many years with a "minister" that could not stay faithful, claiming he was a "sex addict" and after many years of forgiving over and over again, simply staying for "the church" and "for the kids" and for my "COGOP parents", I finally had enough! We attempted christian counseling, but he would leave the sessions more angry that when he came in, thought of it as a finger-pointing session. So after the last affair (which was with another ministers wife) I'd had enough and left. I found that I did not fit in any longer in the COGOP because I was that "divorced" person and knew I could never be a member again if I chose to date or remarry. That was okay because the COGOP would never be my salvation and God knows my heart! I have recently married after 6 years of being single and know in my heart I will go to heaven. I do not need a denomination to tell me my fate....
Shelley

AOL

#12 Oct 11, 2006
Why is it even in the Bible if it is of no consequence or importance ? Did those who married take a temporary oath or an oath before God ? Let me ask...if you say you will do something and then go back on your Word ....doesnt that make you a liar ??? Whether or not Adultery is right or wrogn or everhoe you interpret it...can you argue that fact that ALL LIARS SHALL HAVE THEIR PART IN THE LAKE OF FIRE ??? If you sya you will do something and dont ...that is a lie my friends ...It is a lie you not only said to others or witnesses but you told it to GOD. If I am wrong please tell me.
Ursula

Naples, FL

#13 Oct 11, 2006
What if you divorced because the husband was beating the crap out of the wife?
Paul

Roanoke, VA

#14 Oct 12, 2006
God gave one out. If you have been cheated on God allows you to divorce the cheater and remarry. All that matters is what God says in scripture. No persons opinion matters. matthew 19:9 "And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery."
That could not be any clearer. If you are being physically abused then you have the obligation to take yourself out of that relationship because we are to be good stewards of what we are given, including our bodies and mind. You do not however have the right to remarry.
Ursula

Naples, FL

#15 Oct 12, 2006
I know this may sound wierd, but that is one of the reasons I don't refer to myself as Christian. I feel that if you are going to call yourself Christian you need to behave as one otherwise you make everyone else look bad. Then again I also don't believe in everything that Christianity teaches, but I respect the religion. Obviously I have remarried, but I do believe in God.

Urs
CARRIE

Hendersonville, TN

#16 Oct 13, 2006
I HOPE YOU HAVE A HAPPY MARRIAGE AND I ALSO BELIEVE YOU WILL GO TO HEAVEN. PEOPLE ARE TAKING ONE OR TWO SCRIPTURES OUT OF CONTEXT. IF YOU HAVE GIVEN YOUR HEART TO GOD, ASK YOUR SINS TO BE FORGIVEN YOU WILL GO TO HEAVEN. ITS THAT SIMPLE FOLKS!
Amy wrote:
I remained in a marriage for many years with a "minister" that could not stay faithful, claiming he was a "sex addict" and after many years of forgiving over and over again, simply staying for "the church" and "for the kids" and for my "COGOP parents", I finally had enough! We attempted christian counseling, but he would leave the sessions more angry that when he came in, thought of it as a finger-pointing session. So after the last affair (which was with another ministers wife) I'd had enough and left. I found that I did not fit in any longer in the COGOP because I was that "divorced" person and knew I could never be a member again if I chose to date or remarry. That was okay because the COGOP would never be my salvation and God knows my heart! I have recently married after 6 years of being single and know in my heart I will go to heaven. I do not need a denomination to tell me my fate....
CARRIE

Hendersonville, TN

#17 Oct 13, 2006
I HOPE YOU HAVE A HAPPY MARRIAGE! PEOPLE ARE TAKING ONE OR TWO SCRIPTURES OUT OF CONTEXT! IF YOU HAVE ASKED TO BE FORGIVEN OF YOUR SINS THEN YOU WILL BE GOING TO HEAVEN! IT'S THAT SIMPLE FOLKS!GOD IS CRAZY ABOUT US AND LOVES US AND TO JUDGE OTHERS IS WRONG. THAT IS GOD'S JOB, NOT OUR JOB!
You heard me right Devil

Oakley, CA

#18 Oct 13, 2006
estell wrote:
the bible says it is a sin.what next for the church, sin is sin. if this was right any thing goes.
Whats a sin?? divorce? What bible are you reading. If a woman or man cheats on their spouse, the Bible clearly states they can seperate. But that must remarry to keep from sinning. I wish you fanatical christians would stop twisting the bible. Being fanatical and thinking Your version of God is dangerous. Why do we as christians have so many denominations? what the hell is going on there? you keep rebuilding God with your new fancy names for your new churches. Why not One big denomination "Church who follows Christs teaching". Until that happens, Im never going back to church and having some guy tell me whats wrong with my life. Like our Minister cursing us and saying we were the devil for corrupting his son, when his son was the one who got me High for the first time. arogant azzhole. Even his wife left him. Oh my... He must be in hell now?
Paul

Roanoke, VA

#19 Oct 14, 2006
You heard me right Devil wrote:
<quoted text>Whats a sin?? divorce? What bible are you reading. If a woman or man cheats on their spouse, the Bible clearly states they can seperate. But that must remarry to keep from sinning. I wish you fanatical christians would stop twisting the bible. Being fanatical and thinking Your version of God is dangerous. Why do we as christians have so many denominations? what the hell is going on there? you keep rebuilding God with your new fancy names for your new churches. Why not One big denomination "Church who follows Christs teaching". Until that happens, Im never going back to church and having some guy tell me whats wrong with my life. Like our Minister cursing us and saying we were the devil for corrupting his son, when his son was the one who got me High for the first time. arogant azzhole. Even his wife left him. Oh my... He must be in hell now?
Divorce is only allowed by the bible when someone cheats. There is no twisting when the the bible clearly states that if the cheater remarries they are living in sin (sinning continuously). Anyone who marries the gulity person is also living in sin. Only the one cheated on can remarry. That comes from the inspired word of God. There is a "Church who follows Christs teaching" ironically it's called the Church... of Christ. No more no less and not named after a creed or man. I'm not saying all the Churches of Christ follow the Christ's teaching, but the only churches I've been to that did were Churches of Christ. Churches of Christ salute you Rom 16:16. By the way that wouldn't be one big denomination because that would be one big division (...there should be no division in the body... 1 cor 12:25 ) those 2 words (division and denomination) are interchangeable. Instead it would be the one church started by Christ in the new testament. Also if you let someone stand between you and worshipping the true and living God .... who is closer to God? Don't let a faulted man keep you from worshipping the perfect God who loves you and wants you to walk in the light.
You heard me right Devil

Oakley, CA

#20 Oct 15, 2006
there should be no name for it. Period. Just the temple we go to. We should know the house of God. Call it "Temple" as the jews called it. go there. Pray to God. Allow anyone up at the podium to speak verses from the bible. Being a minister shouldnt be a paid full time job. Everyone should take turns. If they're disruptive or corrupted and the rest of the people see it, they will ask this person to leave.

It's just that simple. I dont need to be a member of an organized group of worshipers in which have different levels of heiarchy. Like decons or Bishops and the Pope. Its not a military. its the house of God. yes, we need teachers for the young but at some point we all must lead.

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