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MZ GOODY TWO SHOES

Alamogordo, NM

#1 Jun 5, 2013
Quite a disappointment, was looking forward to opening. Alamogordo Daily News state that construction won't begin until early 2014.
Yagets

Alamogordo, NM

#2 Jun 5, 2013
I wouldn't pin my hopes on a 2014 opening.
"Supervalu announced the completion of the sale of its Albertsons, Acme, Jewel-Osco, Shaw’s and Star Market stores and related Osco and Sav-on in-store pharmacies to AB Acquisition LLC, an affiliate of a Cerberus Capital Management-led investor consortium, in a stock deal valued at $3.3 billion, including $100 million in cash and $3.2 billion in debt assumption." My guess is that the low cash price and high debt assumption indicates an acquisition for the real-estate (close stores sell the land) not an opportunity to open more stores in extremely small markets such as Alamogordo.

Since: Sep 08

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#3 Jun 5, 2013
MZ GOODY TWO SHOES wrote:
Quite a disappointment, was looking forward to opening. Alamogordo Daily News state that construction won't begin until early 2014.
Did not say that.

Since: Sep 08

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#4 Jun 5, 2013
http://www.alamogordonews.com/news/ci_2339008...

Now if you had not started a new thread on the same subject listed a few threads away, you could have read all the 75 other comments.

“Our nearest star”

Since: May 09

Alamogordo, NM

#6 Jun 5, 2013
Get honest wrote:
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But this one gives us a specific chance to ask why the bagger governor is so anti business. Why all this red tape? It is like the Keystone pipeline. Senseless regulation harming business. The only difference is the ones holding up the show are the deregulation baggers. Had this been Richardson there would be big bagger outrage.
Until you people figure out a way to blame this on Obama how about asking the anchor baby you baggers elected why they are holding up this supermarket over an ancient gas tank?
Maybe they found a plume from that old tank
limbo stick

Bronx, NY

#7 Jun 5, 2013
If someone drops a cig down the old gas tank and blows it sky high; will that resolve the hold up?
Get honest

Carrizozo, NM

#8 Jun 6, 2013
BarbMoore wrote:
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Maybe they found a plume from that old tank
So what? There have been 13 corrosion related pipeline breaks of lines carrying the sulfuric acid laden Canadian tar sands oil as the proposed Keystone XL in the last year, including the recent one in AR, but the baggers want that one built with full immunity to the owners without question and eminent domain to take the land from US citizens to give to Canada. In furtherance they call Obama obstructionist. Why is an ancient gas tank an impediment here? Because baggers lie. That was all I was looking to point out. The fact that the people holding up the store are part of the bagger administration of the anchor baby governor just makes it all sort of a joke.

Since: Sep 08

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#9 Jun 6, 2013
Get honest wrote:
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So what? There have been 13 corrosion related pipeline breaks of lines carrying the sulfuric acid laden Canadian tar sands oil as the proposed Keystone XL in the last year, including the recent one in AR, but the baggers want that one built with full immunity to the owners without question and eminent domain to take the land from US citizens to give to Canada. In furtherance they call Obama obstructionist. Why is an ancient gas tank an impediment here? Because baggers lie. That was all I was looking to point out. The fact that the people holding up the store are part of the bagger administration of the anchor baby governor just makes it all sort of a joke.
I would guess you are a liberal, and voted for Obama twice.
Get honest

Carrizozo, NM

#10 Jun 6, 2013
Land Locked Sailor wrote:
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I would guess you are a liberal, and voted for Obama twice.
You guess that way because it is all you know. It is a reflex action. When someone has a different view you use the only insult you know. Like that guy in the doomsday movie, "M o o n. That spells pickup truck." Being part of a group removes the responsibility of thinking for yourself from your yoke by providing you with your entire world view. Since dissent is met within your group with shoutdowns like the ones you try to pull here there is actually positive disincentive for independent thought.

It is like some weird cult. Pearce votes for Big Brother surveillance and writes the HHS Secretary begging ObamaCare grants for this district, but I am the liberal?
Gorky

Albuquerque, NM

#11 Jun 6, 2013
Being opposed to a specific work of a Tea Bagger does not necessarily equate with being a liberal or a conservative. There is enough hard evidence available to conclude that Tea Baggers made a bad decision in rejecting, off-hand, the safety concerns.

“Our nearest star”

Since: May 09

Alamogordo, NM

#13 Jun 6, 2013
Get honest wrote:
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So what? There have been 13 corrosion related pipeline breaks of lines carrying the sulfuric acid laden Canadian tar sands oil as the proposed Keystone XL in the last year, including the recent one in AR, but the baggers want that one built with full immunity to the owners without question and eminent domain to take the land from US citizens to give to Canada. In furtherance they call Obama obstructionist. Why is an ancient gas tank an impediment here? Because baggers lie. That was all I was looking to point out. The fact that the people holding up the store are part of the bagger administration of the anchor baby governor just makes it all sort of a joke.
EPA regs
http://www.epa.gov/agriculture/ttan.html#Unde... Storage Tanks

Since: Sep 08

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#15 Jun 6, 2013
Get honest wrote:
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I apologize to everyone if my position is still to ambiguous. Let me see if I can tighten it up. I can appreciate the Tea Partier that is trying to make it to someplace like a new house for an expanding family and has a tax bill like a downpayment or watching their children struggle the same. On the other hand you have the no account baggers that do little and owe very little if any in taxes coopting the theme for mindless flaming. They just popped up after the black guy took office.
yep, I am one of those, small footprint types, low taxes, big refunds, capital gains, etc...All thanks to living here...small town, poor state , life is grand...Buddy can you spare a dime..

“Our nearest star”

Since: May 09

Alamogordo, NM

#16 Jun 6, 2013
Get honest wrote:
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That's an easy one. This thing called the 10th Amendment to the US Constitution requires a showing of a Constitutional grant of a power before the feds can pass a binding law to regulate a state activity. Can you show all of us where in the Constitution Congress is granted the power to regulate purely intrastate building permitting? The fact that the bagger governor was willing to talk the talk to get elected but has consistently refused to walk the walk shows her character. This particular situation justs shows whose interests she puts first and who calls the shots in NM.
I really dont care if they need to hold it up to clean it up. What I do mind is forked tongue bums slamming obama for the same thing martinez is doing without even a thought of subjecting her to the same. Just pointing out a little hypocrisy and how unprincipled the typical carpetbagging bagger really is.
Can you please take your rhetoric somewhere else or make another thread about it? This thread is about a grocery store.

“Our nearest star”

Since: May 09

Alamogordo, NM

#18 Jun 7, 2013
Get honest wrote:
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Are you sure? It read like a thread about a grocery store being held up by the enviroment dept this governor campaigned against as oppressive.
The EPA rules date far before the governor you hate so much so yes, your rhetoric is unnecessary here.
Gorky

Albuquerque, NM

#20 Jun 7, 2013
Much to-do about another big box business coming to town to save us from our inability to feed ourselves from local sources while sending more of our dwindling wealth, this time, to Boise, Idaho.

While we will always be dependent on outside sources for our food, yet we are at the same time neglecting our local farmers as sources of fresh produce and they could really use our support. Lowes Grocery buys local and state produce when possible, but Walmart does not, and potentially, Albertsons will not.
Get honest

Carrizozo, NM

#21 Jun 7, 2013
Gorky wrote:
Much to-do about another big box business coming to town to save us from our inability to feed ourselves from local sources while sending more of our dwindling wealth, this time, to Boise, Idaho.
While we will always be dependent on outside sources for our food, yet we are at the same time neglecting our local farmers as sources of fresh produce and they could really use our support. Lowes Grocery buys local and state produce when possible, but Walmart does not, and potentially, Albertsons will not.
Your point on buy local is valid, just misfiled. A big problem in buy local here is so many people just simply assume there is no competent vendor here. Probably inner reflection projection problem.

Back to the point. The Albertsons matter is really little about a grocery and a lot about dysfunctional government. The city commission, led by a transient resident mayor, chose to pay Albertsons to come to town. Once the payoff was finalized this story pops up where the governor's people are going to hold up the project the Alamogordo City Commission thought so important to pay to have done over a 30 year old gas station site.

That brings up two issues. The first is candidate Martinez' complaints about environmental protection red tape. Remember when she commandeered the NMSP plane to fly 2 state reps to Roswell to speak at a rally against listing the lesser prairie chicken in Feb? Important enough to take the police plane to a political rally. But when it comes to a 30+ year abandoned gas station the red tape is now enormous and every federal i must be dotted and t crossed since she placed the department lawyer in charge in the midst of yet another cabinet scramble.

That ties in well with the second point. This area really went in the bag for Martinez. Most around here find her anchor baby autobiography a problem and most of the Republicans I have met here voice nothing but contempt for natives like her husband, so, all in all, Alamogordo Republicans had to get over a lot of hate to vote for her and she is treating them like dirt.

How can you not laugh and cry at the same time at BS like this.
Gorky

Albuquerque, NM

#22 Jun 7, 2013
Rest assured, I am laughing and crying with you. Republicans can do much better than Susanna, but it would mean cleaning up or rejecting the Tea Party agenda and conservatives getting back to their core. That would strike a healthy and constructive balance to the opposition and bring back solutions that most everyone could support.
Gorky

Albuquerque, NM

#25 Jun 7, 2013
Get honest wrote:
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Your point on buy local is valid, just misfiled. A big problem in buy local here is so many people just simply assume there is no competent vendor here. Probably inner reflection projection problem.
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They assume that only big box stores can provide what they are told to need. The big box stores told them that in their ads.
Mythos

Cloudcroft, NM

#27 Jun 7, 2013
I think they should hire the Brockett kid (writes movie reviews in the paper) to do a gas tank siphon feasibility study.

a hypothetical rubber hose should be involved.

I'm thinkin'$50K should be good.

pay for a couple semesters for him in a NY film school.

#goodallaround

Since: Sep 08

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#28 Jun 7, 2013
Get honest wrote:
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Your point on buy local is valid, just misfiled. A big problem in buy local here is so many people just simply assume there is no competent vendor here. Probably inner reflection projection problem.
Back to the point. The Albertsons matter is really little about a grocery and a lot about dysfunctional government. The city commission, led by a transient resident mayor, chose to pay Albertsons to come to town. Once the payoff was finalized this story pops up where the governor's people are going to hold up the project the Alamogordo City Commission thought so important to pay to have done over a 30 year old gas station site.
That brings up two issues. The first is candidate Martinez' complaints about environmental protection red tape. Remember when she commandeered the NMSP plane to fly 2 state reps to Roswell to speak at a rally against listing the lesser prairie chicken in Feb? Important enough to take the police plane to a political rally. But when it comes to a 30+ year abandoned gas station the red tape is now enormous and every federal i must be dotted and t crossed since she placed the department lawyer in charge in the midst of yet another cabinet scramble.
That ties in well with the second point. This area really went in the bag for Martinez. Most around here find her anchor baby autobiography a problem and most of the Republicans I have met here voice nothing but contempt for natives like her husband, so, all in all, Alamogordo Republicans had to get over a lot of hate to vote for her and she is treating them like dirt.
How can you not laugh and cry at the same time at BS like this.
When was the last time the republican party had the majority in Santa Fe?

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