NMSU-A nursing program is strong

NMSU-A nursing program is strong

There are 58 comments on the Alamogordo Daily News story from Aug 15, 2010, titled NMSU-A nursing program is strong. In it, Alamogordo Daily News reports that:

In response to a letter to the editor in the Daily News on July 25 about New Mexico State University-Alamogordo's nursing program having serious issues that need addressing, the current nursing program is, indeed, in transition.

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nurse

Anchorage, AK

#42 Jul 19, 2011
Look at the website for NM board of nursing under annual reports 2010 and you will see a board pass rate of 42% for May 2010...and December was around 50% pass on first attempt. Something is definitely wrong with this nursing school! Plus more instructors have quit...
Mike

Alamogordo, NM

#43 Jul 19, 2011
Florence wrote:
I saw this letter coming a mile away.
It all sounds 'great' on paper, however, only time will tell how the NMSU-A Nursing Program will fare. For the upcoming students, I wish them well. This is the foundation of their nursing knowledge base. Our community needs educated, dedicated nurses who sincerly want to be care givers, not just another warm body picking up a pay check! If we lose this program our community will suffer greatly!
As for the new instructors, I wish them the best. Inquiring minds still wonder why the current administration lost so many of the previous instructions, who were very qualified and extremly dedicated to the education of our new RNs.
As for the NCLEX, Dr. Star, you still can't explain WHY so many for the recent nursing classes failed their NCLEX, the majority of them failed on both their FIRST and SECOND attemps. Those results speak for themselves, and of NMSU-A Nursing Program. SOMEONE dropped the ball with those students. FYI: Take home test did not educated them on the critial thinking needed for Medical/Surgical Nursing. This is a vital part of their core training.
The nurses at GCMH need to be trained on how not to be arrogant. Every medical person from ambulance to EMT's to nurses have an arrogant attitude. I can't stand the nurses or medical EMT's in this town. It's like they went to school for non caring, impersonal, arrogance. It hasn't changed in 15 years. They are no better than any other human being on this planet.
Marian

Alamogordo, NM

#44 Jul 19, 2011
nurse wrote:
Look at the website for NM board of nursing under annual reports 2010 and you will see a board pass rate of 42% for May 2010...and December was around 50% pass on first attempt. Something is definitely wrong with this nursing school! Plus more instructors have quit...
Amazing as a neighbor of mine all she does is party and drink is 19 and highly immarture etc and she goes to nursing school. You think I want someone like that to care for me NOT!!!!!!!!!!

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Fat Cottonwood

#45 Jul 19, 2011
Marian wrote:
<quoted text>
Amazing as a neighbor of mine all she does is party and drink is 19 and highly immarture etc and she goes to nursing school. You think I want someone like that to care for me NOT!!!!!!!!!!
Why do you feel the need to use more than one name to make comments? That's just asinine and ignorant.
Graduate student

Alamogordo, NM

#47 May 14, 2012
Florence wrote:
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NO, THIS IS NOT A CORRECT ASSUMPTION! I fail to see the contradiction. It is simple. There have been many students from the past 2 years that have failed their NCLEX, not once but twice! These graduate nurses have suffered emotionally and finacially because of the delay in their RN license. I realize that they hold their own fate in dedicating themselves to prepare for the NCLEX, but the majority of them feel they were failed by certain instructors.
Since Jack Rogers left the NMSU-A program, a downhill spiral began, starting with the interum director and currently with Dr. Star. The interum director also became their Medical/Surgical Instructor, and from what came out of those classes became a joke. That semester is the CORE of their nursing knowledge base. Without it you are lost.
The dedicated instructors left because they could not stand by and watch the Nursing Program continue in the matter it was going. As with everything there is the "elite group" that runs the show, they were not part of that group, nor did the instructors want to be! Their voices were not being heard, therfore they decided to leave before the ship sank.
For your information, I am not an instructor but a former student of the NMSU-A Nursing Program! I am sure you know that statistics can be manipulated to show favor in one direction or another. The bottom line is those students who have graduated under that "screwed up" administraion did not receieve the education that they paid for. Here is where you see the difference between a nurse educator who is dedicated to teaching future nurses and an nurse educator who is there to pick up a pay check. The results can be seen in the final product that comes out of that nursing program.
I do consider myself one of the lucky ones, I have the honor of being taught by Mrs. Diehl, Mrs. Fritze, Mrs. Weitzel, Mrs. Andreoli, Mrs. Gilliand, Mrs. Edenburg, and Mr. Rogers as my instructors. They didn't hold my hand and baby me through the program, they didn't give us take home test, which would have lead to no challenge to our learning process.
I am a nurse in our community that works with those students who failed their NCLEX, not once but twice and are now forced to work as a CNAs until they pass their boards, or not work at all. I work with students who are entering or are still in the program and they are scared to death at the future of the NMSU-A program. As a nurse in our local community, I am scared of the end result that will come out of NMSU-A. As this will be the new nurse that will work along side me or take care of myself or my loved ones.
The reason for all the turmoil is we want someone to clean house up there and stop this "elite group" from running our nursing program into the ground.
I agree with you, this program did not prepare me for my future in nursing. This program has hurt my future in nursing. I feel like a victim
Resident

Alamogordo, NM

#48 May 15, 2012
Graduate student wrote:
<quoted text> I agree with you, this program did not prepare me for my future in nursing. This program has hurt my future in nursing. I feel like a victim
Yep! And it's only getting worse!

Elementary/Middle school and parents are supposed to get you disciplined and ready for the world of work. High school is supposed to reinforce that discipline and work ethic, while getting you ready for collage or vocational school and not vacational school. By the time you enter college, you should already be disciplined, self-motivated, and able not to put up with peer-pressure to go out and party it up! It is not the colleges responsibility to do those things!

You feel like a victim because you were taught wrong from the beginning. Parents and teachers are not your friends! You were taught that everybody was to be your friend from coworkers to managers and to do what makes you feel good. That is not how the real world of work is.

Here is some advice! When you graduate from high school, you no longer have friends! You have associates! You have to do what is necessarily to put food on your table and not your coworkers! You will find that working in a hospital, any hospital, you must watch your back, do what is in YOUR best interest, and not worry about what someone else is doing.

I suggest you join the military to reinforce your nurse training. I would either join the army medical corp or become a navy corpsman. I was army, but I highly respect navy corpsmen!
Tell the Truth

Santa Fe, NM

#49 May 15, 2012
The lack of preparation of nursing students is both sad and dangerous to those they will be assisting. Also, many nurses are just in there for a secure paycheck. When a relative was in ICU and when I have been at the hospital visiting patients we know, it is apparent the lack of knowledge of some nurses. Some ICU nurses didn't know how to read the heart monitor, at some point one said to the other, lets go get the book and read what it says. They admitted that they didn't know how to read the monitor, and that the hospital had gotten new monitors...that was some years ago. I told them to go and get someone in there that did know what they were doing. This type of thing is not good.
Graduate Student

Alamogordo, NM

#50 May 15, 2012
Resident wrote:
<quoted text>
Yep! And it's only getting worse!
Elementary/Middle school and parents are supposed to get you disciplined and ready for the world of work. High school is supposed to reinforce that discipline and work ethic, while getting you ready for collage or vocational school and not vacational school. By the time you enter college, you should already be disciplined, self-motivated, and able not to put up with peer-pressure to go out and party it up! It is not the colleges responsibility to do those things!
You feel like a victim because you were taught wrong from the beginning. Parents and teachers are not your friends! You were taught that everybody was to be your friend from coworkers to managers and to do what makes you feel good. That is not how the real world of work is.
Here is some advice! When you graduate from high school, you no longer have friends! You have associates! You have to do what is necessarily to put food on your table and not your coworkers! You will find that working in a hospital, any hospital, you must watch your back, do what is in YOUR best interest, and not worry about what someone else is doing.
I suggest you join the military to reinforce your nurse training. I would either join the army medical corp or become a navy corpsman. I was army, but I highly respect navy corpsmen!
Well my nursing degree is actully my 3ed degree i have a bachloers in microbiology and decided to be a nurse. But I really enjoy nursing and want to work as a nurse as soon as i pass my boards. But for preperation its like teaching my self everything i did not get from NMSU-A nursing program which seams like a never ending process. I have this degree is nursing i cant do anything with.
Graduate Student

Alamogordo, NM

#51 May 15, 2012
Tell the Truth wrote:
The lack of preparation of nursing students is both sad and dangerous to those they will be assisting. Also, many nurses are just in there for a secure paycheck. When a relative was in ICU and when I have been at the hospital visiting patients we know, it is apparent the lack of knowledge of some nurses. Some ICU nurses didn't know how to read the heart monitor, at some point one said to the other, lets go get the book and read what it says. They admitted that they didn't know how to read the monitor, and that the hospital had gotten new monitors...that was some years ago. I told them to go and get someone in there that did know what they were doing. This type of thing is not good.
I agree during my clinical rotation at GCRMC the PACU nurse did not know how to read a EKG and stated that she never learned how. And i asked her do you have a desire to learn she stated no because i dont need to know it >_<
no name

Alamogordo, NM

#52 Sep 19, 2012
This nursing program is awful--really, really awful. If you or anyone you know of is considering going here, don't. Run as fast as you can to the program in Cruces.
Trixie

Santa Fe, NM

#53 Sep 20, 2012
Fact is wrote:
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Did you know that NMSU-A is not the only school that offers online classes? The list includes MIT, Yale, Harvard, Duke, Stanford and many more. Guess we would have to assume that some level of learning takes place or these institutions would lose their accreditation.
Different schools have different standards, some higher than others...that's the difference. Also, the quality of the professors counts as well. Appears that something is lacking at NMSU-A. I believe it was a better school years ago than it is now. Possibly, it should get looked into just like that Dona Ana Branch in Las Cruces did about it's accrediting status.
Resident

Alamogordo, NM

#54 Sep 20, 2012
NMSU-A and GCRMC takes after Alamogordo, what did you expect? Just today I was there at the hospital and they had some sort of very loud music playing and a bunch of fat asses dancing around like is was a mall!! It's a DAMN HOSPITAL! NOT AN FUCKING MALL!

Real nice for the patients and family members waiting!

Another step down the ladder to gutterville!
Resident

Alamogordo, NM

#55 Sep 20, 2012
Marian wrote:
<quoted text>
Amazing as a neighbor of mine all she does is party and drink is 19 and highly immarture etc and she goes to nursing school. You think I want someone like that to care for me NOT!!!!!!!!!!
For a lot of nurses, it's a damn joke to them and what's more said is that the more mature nurses will not correct the bad ones!
Trixie

Santa Fe, NM

#56 Sep 21, 2012
Florence wrote:
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Inquirer, I think I answered those questions for you.
Let's just say "those people" still have the BALL and the dedicated educators have left the court. Many of them have gone on to join a much better team, so to speak!
When the issue of how bad the NMSU-A program for nursing was exposed publicly, it was done some years ago through a letter to the editor by one of the former dedicated staff members and instructor at the NMSU-A nursing program who spoke about some of the issues being brought up here regarding test scores, the program, etc.,. Certainly, that letter and others that followed including one from the university stating their side still exist in the daily news archives for someone who might want to find that information. Students and community members commenting here aren't the ones who first exposed this problem. Apparently the problem is just continuing and students may not be getting the type of education such a program required for the sake of those who will be treated by such nurses coming out of such a program as is being described by those inside and outside this system.
Trixie

Santa Fe, NM

#57 Sep 21, 2012
There's another Toxpix discussion on this issue of when it happened with 131 comments to it, title: "NMSU-A program has some serious issues that need addressing" from July 25, 2010 which is apparently when this first got started.
Trixie

Santa Fe, NM

#58 Sep 21, 2012
The NCLEX shows 47.8% for 2010 and 58.6% for 2011 of NMSU-A of NMSU-A students success in passing their test first time around. It also shows on accreditation BON Approval: Conditional. This site speaks for the condition of the NMSU-A program regardless of the opposition to statements from those who know what is going on at the branch campus.
haha

Charlottesville, VA

#59 Sep 21, 2012
Resident wrote:
NMSU-A and GCRMC takes after Alamogordo, what did you expect? Just today I was there at the hospital and they had some sort of very loud music playing and a bunch of fat asses dancing around like is was a mall!! It's a DAMN HOSPITAL! NOT AN FUCKING MALL!
Real nice for the patients and family members waiting!
Another step down the ladder to gutterville!
I saw it too.
What does that have to do with the college.
Resident

Alamogordo, NM

#60 Sep 21, 2012
haha wrote:
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I saw it too.
What does that have to do with the college.
I'm surprised you didn't comprehend this, "NMSU-A and GCRMC takes after Alamogordo"!

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