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Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

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A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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Since: Jul 12

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#154968 Aug 15, 2012
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>So why does a butch lesbian dress and act like a man to attract another lesbian? The ones I've talked to unanimously say "thats who I am".

And how does that relate to evolution? Our sexuality is rooted in evolutionary purpose, defined over millions of years. This makes no sense on so many levels!
Ok I will answer your question differently....
Some woman like to dress comfortably and short hair is so much less of a hassle.
Some woman dress and act like men becuase they feel that is who they are... some transition and become men and some are content with just the appearance.
Some woman go for the "butch" girls for different reasons. When I was younger I dated butch girls that looked more like guys because I lived in smaller town and when she looked more boy then girl we didnt get stared at and we could be out in public in peace. But no matter how boy she looked she didnt have the extra equipment. And even though the outside appearance looked one way when we were alone at home that is all that mattered what others saw.

Since: Jul 12

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#154969 Aug 15, 2012
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>I sense a measure of honesty, but still a lot of stretching. I would attribute a lot of your reasons to experimenting and discovering for yourself, and not butch lesbians. I think the closest you came to answering is "that is who they are". I agree, but it still does not explain why. Especially in relation to evolutions dictates.
I can not answer who they are because I don't know. I love being a woman and do not want what a man has except it would be great to go to the bathroom outside anywhere.

“well, really...”

Since: Dec 10

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#154971 Aug 15, 2012
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
Because everything I said was simply the truth, all you have is to assert lies on who I am.
Anything that can be destroyed by the truth should be.
Smile.
"The truth" in your limited World view...not the truth to many others. Asserting lies on who you are? Look buster I have no idea who you are except for what you post here. You have attacked me multiple times, my children and my love for my children (which you know nothing of). I would never attack your family or your wife - I have nothing but the utmost respect, admiration and sympathy for them. You on the other hand deserve no respect, you have done nothing to earn it. You reap what you sow!
Dude

Newark, DE

#154972 Aug 15, 2012
Bruno wrote:
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SSM will only lead to a more unothodox ways of of life among a normal society. The next step to the gay lifestyles will be to teaching it in public shools.
How would you know if these things would come about? Gay marriage has been present in some states and countries already, and I haven't seen anything manifest. Also, even if these things came about, why would they be bad because they're "unorthodox"? Furthermore, why shouldn't teens know about gay people? Is it because you fear they will be taught the facts, instead of being indoctrinated to believe in lies?
Bruno

Westminster, CA

#154973 Aug 15, 2012
Dude wrote:
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How would you know if these things would come about? Gay marriage has been present in some states and countries already, and I haven't seen anything manifest. Also, even if these things came about, why would they be bad because they're "unorthodox"? Furthermore, why shouldn't teens know about gay people? Is it because you fear they will be taught the facts, instead of being indoctrinated to believe in lies?
I understand you want to keep the cult growing by brain washing teens that are on the fence. I just don't think you should use the public school sysltem to do it.
Bruno

Westminster, CA

#154974 Aug 15, 2012
Dude wrote:
<quoted text>
How would you know if these things would come about? Gay marriage has been present in some states and countries already, and I haven't seen anything manifest. Also, even if these things came about, why would they be bad because they're "unorthodox"? Furthermore, why shouldn't teens know about gay people? Is it because you fear they will be taught the facts, instead of being indoctrinated to believe in lies?
What are the facts about gay people? what lies would you be refering to????

“WAY TO GO”

Since: Mar 11

IRELAND

#154975 Aug 15, 2012
Bruno wrote:
<quoted text>what lies would you be refering to????
Gee Bruno.......so MANY lies have been posted about Gays and Lesbians it would be hard to list them all......but Prof Marvel hits on many of them every day.....just for starters!!!
Local

Clearlake, CA

#154977 Aug 15, 2012
Hey Koch Zucker wrote:
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289 + 161 = 450
Divide by 2008 Hennipin voters: 722777
Equals a 0.06% problem that you're spending how-much on?
do ya want to talk about Florida Bush v Gore again?
A few votes can make a big difference, especially in local races.
Now multiply those numbers nationwide.

Now, go find your mommy.
Buzz off.

Our Country needs to have a voter photo I.D. requirement.
Dude

Newark, DE

#154978 Aug 15, 2012
Prof Marvel wrote:
First, homosexuality is a public health menace which means the government should not endorse it in any way, size, shape, or form.
Saying that it is okay to deny people rights, simply because they're more susceptible to certain diseases, is probably one of the worst things you have ever typed minus all the nasty porn titles you search for. Black people are way more vulnerable to HIV than whites, so I guess Loving v Virginia was a mistake? The true danger is not homosexuality. The danger is ignorance about the dangers of unsafe sex, which is something fundamentalist Christians are responsible for spreading. We can see that in Africa. Sex education and condom use=less AIDS. Abstinence teachings and lectures about how sex is demonic= rampant infections and skyrocketing cases of AIDS. Also, lesbians have the lowest in STD rates. Women are also naturally hardier than men in the infection dept. I guess by your retarded standards, the only people fit to marry are lesbians.
Prof Marvel wrote:
Second, as we see in Massachusetts, same sex marriage promotes the normalization of homosexuality which manifests itself with transvestite school teachers and homosexuality affirming curriculum.
Homosexuality is normal, you dope. Also, there's nothing wrong with a man who dresses like a woman, because there is nothing shameful about being a woman. Gender stereotypes are retarded. We have women that dress in suits and jeans all of the time. Also, I don't have a problem with schools teaching about homosexuality. Ignorance about homosexuality is how dopes like you can manifest your deceit without being immediately shot down, so the less of that the better.
Prof Marvel wrote:
Third, it promotes NAMBLA-like initiatives like Gay-Straight Alliance Clubs in our schools.
There is no science that shows a link between homosexuality and pedophilia. Also, gays and straights getting together and in order to get rid of pre-conceived notions about each other is a great thing.
Prof Marvel wrote:
Fifth, it has a ripple-effect throughout society -- the military, Boy Scouts, etc.
As society changes, so do its institutions. Banning gays from the military was retarded, and I say that as someone who isnít the biggest fan of our activities in the Middle East and North Africa.
Prof Marvel wrote:
Six, it promotes fascism and intolerance against those who don't endorse same sex marriage -- Chik-fil-A.
Gays have been murdered, raped, beaten, and ostracized for many years by the same kinds of people that now try to force their morals on them via adoption, housing, and marriage laws. Also, Chick-fil-A funds groups that make BS papers in order to spread an anti-gay bias. I feel that the leadership of that company should be able to express its views, and stay in business, but that doesn't mean people should be forced like what it does.
Prof Marvel wrote:
Seven, it removes the barriers in place preventing men who wear penis suits and erect penis hats from adopting kids.
The gay men that adopt children go through mountains of paperwork and rigorous amounts of background checks in order to evaluate whether or not they're fit to be parents. Many of them take these kids in without the thousands of legal benefits of marriage. All a fertile, heterosexual couple needs to do is pop a condom. Is it clear to you now why there are millions of kids in the system? Sure, let's deny the largest group of adopters from taking kids out of a sh*tty situation their heterosexual birth parents created. You see why I think you're a c*nt? Just because you look too much like a Furby to snag a man, and form a family, doesnít give you the right to rob kids of a chance of escaping hell and being loved and valued. Hope back under your bridge, because Iím not paying the toll to cross into your dopey mindset.
Dude

Newark, DE

#154979 Aug 15, 2012
Prof Marvel wrote:
First, homosexuality is a public health menace which means the government should not endorse it in any way, size, shape, or form.
Saying that it is okay to deny people rights, simply because they're more susceptible to certain diseases, is probably one of the worst things you have ever typed minus all the nasty porn titles you search for. Black people are way more vulnerable to HIV than whites, so I guess Loving v Virginia was a mistake? The true danger is not homosexuality. The danger is ignorance about the dangers of unsafe sex, which is something fundamentalist Christians are responsible for spreading. We can see that in Africa. Sex education and condom use=less AIDS. Abstinence teachings and lectures about how sex is demonic= rampant infections and skyrocketing cases of AIDS. Also, lesbians have the lowest in STD rates. Women are also naturally hardier than men in the infection dept. I guess by your retarded standards, the only people fit to marry are lesbians.
Prof Marvel wrote:
Second, as we see in Massachusetts, same sex marriage promotes the normalization of homosexuality which manifests itself with transvestite school teachers and homosexuality affirming curriculum.
Homosexuality is normal, you dope. Also, there's nothing wrong with a man who dresses like a woman, because there is nothing shameful about being a woman. Gender stereotypes are retarded. We have women that dress in suits and jeans all of the time. Also, I don't have a problem with schools teaching about homosexuality. Ignorance about homosexuality is how dopes like you can manifest your deceit without being immediately shot down, so the less of that the better.
Prof Marvel wrote:
Third, it promotes NAMBLA-like initiatives like Gay-Straight Alliance Clubs in our schools.
There is no science that shows a link between homosexuality and pedophilia. Also, gays and straights getting together and in order to get rid of pre-conceived notions about each other is a great thing.
Prof Marvel wrote:
Fifth, it has a ripple-effect throughout society -- the military, Boy Scouts, etc.
As society changes, so do its institutions. Banning gays from the military was retarded, and I say that as someone who isnít the biggest fan of our activities in the Middle East and North Africa.
Prof Marvel wrote:
Six, it promotes fascism and intolerance against those who don't endorse same sex marriage -- Chik-fil-A.
Gays have been murdered, raped, beaten, and ostracized for many years by the same kinds of people that now try to force their morals on them via adoption, housing, and marriage laws. Also, Chick-fil-A funds groups that make BS papers in order to spread an anti-gay bias. I feel that the leadership of that company should be able to express its views, and stay in business, but that doesn't mean people should be forced like what it does.
Prof Marvel wrote:
Seven, it removes the barriers in place preventing men who wear penis suits and erect penis hats from adopting kids.
The gay men that adopt children go through mountains of paperwork and rigorous amounts of background checks in order to evaluate whether or not they're fit to be parents. Many of them take these kids in without the thousands of legal benefits of marriage. All a fertile, heterosexual couple needs to do is pop a condom. Is it clear to you now why there are millions of kids in the system? Sure, let's deny the largest group of adopters from taking kids out of a sh*tty situation their heterosexual birth parents created. You see why I think you're a c*nt? Just because you look too much like a Furby to snag a man, and form a family, doesnít give you the right to rob kids of a chance of escaping hell and being loved and valued. Hop back under your bridge, because Iím not crossing into crazy land like you did years ago.
Dude

Newark, DE

#154980 Aug 15, 2012
Prof Marvel wrote:
Eight, it promotes a hornet's nest of junk science, superstition, and outright lies -- "Born this Way!" ..."Sexual orientation can't be changed"... "Homosexuals can't be pedophiles!" etc.
So since every, credible, scientific body disagrees with you, their findings are "junk"? B*tch please.
Prof Marvel wrote:
Nine, it demonizes the Pope, Billy Graham, and all other religions and religious leaders who don't endorse same sex marriage.
It is on record that the current pope protected pedophile priests, and the rest of those leaders are snake oil salesmen that profit off the fear, hope, and ignorance of their respective flocks. Also, organized religion is a joke and has no bearing on this matter. A lot or religions and branches of religions are fine with gays, and this is a secular republic. Not a theocracy.
Prof Marvel wrote:
Ten, it promotes hedonism, atheism with sex cultism.
Total rubbish. Many hedonists are heterosexual, and many Christians are gay. Also, it would do this nation good if atheism spread. Then, we'd have a solid portion of the public that based their beliefs on facts instead of fiction.
Toothpicks

Azusa, CA

#154981 Aug 15, 2012
Whats the matter with all the wood you keep eating with them toothpicks?
Bill Of Rights

Beacon, NY

#154985 Aug 15, 2012
thisGuy wrote:
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Great, More PC Bullshit from the thought police
Yeah that dude you mentioned on that lame youtube video is as queer as a $3 bill. Did you know you're the second person on this thread to openly admit to me your queer parents made you queer? LOL. The proof is the pudding, you queers recruit.
Yeah apparently, your primitive mind doesn't seem to understand the importance of the nuclear family. You, your queer parents, their parents, & their parent's parents would never even exist if it weren't for the nuclear family. Children need need both a mother & a father. Hell, even the animals have that figured out. The nuclear family is important for survival.
And you queers think your kids aren't gonna notice their missing a father or mother? HA! Good luck raising your kid/s within an imbalance environment of power, morals, & co-existence. Good luck, I say./sarcasm
The queer & single-parent family isn't a nuclear family & will NEVER be "equal" to the nuclear family. NEVER. When a child has both a mother & father, there is balance. It's the father's job to teach the child how to be firm, strong, & assertion, while it's the mother's job to teach the child sensitivity, careness, & apathy. In a queer environment, the child doesn't have a father or a mother. In a male queer environment, there is no mom. In a lesbian environment, there is no dad. And single-parent environment are just as bad. Why else do you think so many people around the world disapprove of children being raised by queers & why so many disapprove of divorce? You queers have no idea how your affecting your kids, & they're the ones who suffer.
So very sorry you ignorant human POS but not gay! LOL,Now what stupid? LOL,And sorry again but NO gay parents and sorry but I never admitted to being gay but if I were gay I'd be the first to tell you as there is nothing wrong with being gay you frigging dumb ass! Now lets talk about you ya self-hating in the closet so far trying to convince yourself that you're not gay that you come off as this laughable lying idiot who tells one laughable idiotic lie after another thinking we will let them pass as fact when every post you've written is a load of lying B.S.! So again,NO, gays do not recruit children you moron,you can't turn someone gay,they either are or not! So how about you STFU quit lying and get back under your rock you lying slimy cock roach! Glad I could help!

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#154986 Aug 15, 2012
Bruno wrote:
<quoted text>I understand you want to keep the cult growing by brain washing teens that are on the fence. I just don't think you should use the public school sysltem to do it.
it's not brain washing kids.. It is sex education... Some parents do not want to talk about sex to their children and if they do not get sex education at home where else can they get the right information from? Friends the Internet? You teach age appropriate sex education. Kids usually won't ask about sex if they are having feeling for the opposite sex much less with the same sex. It is not saying go do it but if you are going to here is how you protect yourself from diseases. Kids now don't have to just worry about just pregnancy so many STD's that are treatable but also not treatable by medicine and will stay with them the rest of their lives. And when a girl is with her boyfriend she is not hearing her parents saying wait but the sweet words coming out of the boys mouth about love and forever and this is how you show me you love me. A friend of mine has a 15 year old daughter and she was in love with a boy and had sex with him once and now she has herpes and that it is not something you have a shot and it is gone it just can be managed with medicine. 10 or even 20 years ago sex education for high school or jr high but now you have to start earlier and earlier. In the news a boy and girl in kindergarten were caught trying to have oral sex under their desk during class. It is all about education to help kids but also tell them that even though they have the information and waiting is best for them but if they are going to do it I would rather them have the right information and not be ignorant.
Sleep Alarm

Azusa, CA

#154987 Aug 15, 2012
A retired firefighter in Janesville, Paul Ryan supported federal grants to help the department with equipment and staffing.

Paul Ryanís positions on issues such as Medicare privatization have cost him union support, Murray said.

A WIS. voter said he couldnít support Ryanís policies and that he disagreed with giving tax cuts to wealthier Americans.

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#154988 Aug 15, 2012
thisGuy wrote:
<quoted text>Great, More PC Bullshit from the thought police

Yeah that dude you mentioned on that lame youtube video is as queer as a $3 bill. Did you know you're the second person on this thread to openly admit to me your queer parents made you queer? LOL. The proof is the pudding, you queers recruit.

Yeah apparently, your primitive mind doesn't seem to understand the importance of the nuclear family. You, your queer parents, their parents, & their parent's parents would never even exist if it weren't for the nuclear family. Children need need both a mother & a father. Hell, even the animals have that figured out. The nuclear family is important for survival.

And you queers think your kids aren't gonna notice their missing a father or mother? HA! Good luck raising your kid/s within an imbalance environment of power, morals, & co-existence. Good luck, I say./sarcasm

The queer & single-parent family isn't a nuclear family & will NEVER be "equal" to the nuclear family. NEVER. When a child has both a mother & father, there is balance. It's the father's job to teach the child how to be firm, strong, & assertion, while it's the mother's job to teach the child sensitivity, careness, & apathy. In a queer environment, the child doesn't have a father or a mother. In a male queer environment, there is no mom. In a lesbian environment, there is no dad. And single-parent environment are just as bad. Why else do you think so many people around the world disapprove of children being raised by queers & why so many disapprove of divorce? You queers have no idea how your affecting your kids, & they're the ones who suffer.
so you think if a child does not have a mother and father they should what? Be taken away? If a child is being raised by a gay couple they being neglected? Do you think a child would be better off in the foster care system than with a gay couple?
Sleep Alarm

Azusa, CA

#154990 Aug 15, 2012
Oh, I'm sorry!

I forgot about aul Ryan
And he was voted biggest brown noser in high school.

And, he survived on Social Security and went to school with the help of Pell Grants; all of which he wants to eliminate!

Pal Ryan, he was never, ever associated with the Russian, Atheist, Ayn Rand.
Sleep Alarm

Azusa, CA

#154991 Aug 15, 2012
Oh, I'm sorry!

I forgot about Paul Ryan
And he was voted biggest brown noser in high school.

Paul Ryan survived on Social Security and went to school with the help of Pell Grants; all of which he wants to eliminate!

Paul Ryan, he was never, ever associated with the Russian, Atheist, Ayn Rand.

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#154992 Aug 15, 2012
thisGuy wrote:
<quoted text>Great, More PC Bullshit from the thought police

Yeah that dude you mentioned on that lame youtube video is as queer as a $3 bill. Did you know you're the second person on this thread to openly admit to me your queer parents made you queer? LOL. The proof is the pudding, you queers recruit.

Yeah apparently, your primitive mind doesn't seem to understand the importance of the nuclear family. You, your queer parents, their parents, & their parent's parents would never even exist if it weren't for the nuclear family. Children need need both a mother & a father. Hell, even the animals have that figured out. The nuclear family is important for survival.

And you queers think your kids aren't gonna notice their missing a father or mother? HA! Good luck raising your kid/s within an imbalance environment of power, morals, & co-existence. Good luck, I say./sarcasm

The queer & single-parent family isn't a nuclear family & will NEVER be "equal" to the nuclear family. NEVER. When a child has both a mother & father, there is balance. It's the father's job to teach the child how to be firm, strong, & assertion, while it's the mother's job to teach the child sensitivity, careness, & apathy. In a queer environment, the child doesn't have a father or a mother. In a male queer environment, there is no mom. In a lesbian environment, there is no dad. And single-parent environment are just as bad. Why else do you think so many people around the world disapprove of children being raised by queers & why so many disapprove of divorce? You queers have no idea how your affecting your kids, & they're the ones who suffer.
so you think if a child does not have a mother and father they should what? Be taken away? If a child is being raised by a gay couple they being neglected? Do you think a child would be better off in the foster care system than with a gay couple? Kids need unconditional love and understanding and a disciplined environment that what makes them flourish. We need to show children that there is compassion in this world and even though bad people and bad things there is also good in people too.
becky

Los Angeles, CA

#154995 Aug 15, 2012
Dude wrote:
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Why shouldn't gays be allowed to marry? What harm comes to you, if two strangers just happen to be the same sex, when they marry each other?
aren't you the Dude guy from Delaware that's been posting his support over on the NAMBLA forum? the "younger the better" thread, to be exact.

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