Two men plead guilty in federal court...

Two men plead guilty in federal court to beating, robbing man because he's gay

There are 32 comments on the Examiner.com story from Apr 19, 2013, titled Two men plead guilty in federal court to beating, robbing man because he's gay. In it, Examiner.com reports that:

Two men pleaded guilty Thursday to beating a 20-year-old man because he's gay and officials said it is the first case in Georgia to charge a violation of the sexual orientation section of the federal hate crimes law.

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Since: Mar 09

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#1 Apr 20, 2013
Good.
Tea Bag Residue Cleanup

Levittown, PA

#2 Apr 20, 2013
The takeaway is that local authorities apparently wouldn't prosecute it as a hate crime, so the feds had to.

We can thank the Obama Administration for this progress.

“Luke laughs at hypocrites!”

Since: Sep 10

Palm Springs, California

#4 Apr 20, 2013
Tea Bag Residue Cleanup wrote:
The takeaway is that local authorities apparently wouldn't prosecute it as a hate crime, so the feds had to.
We can thank the Obama Administration for this progress.
That reminds me of the old joke about minimum wage...if it weren't against the law I would pay you less!

If up to Civil War stuck Georgia, they would not lift a finger to prosecute against hate crimes. Lovely. I'm surprised that they don't jail the victim for his being gay, the way the Germans did after the gays' release from the concentration camps.

“Equality First”

Since: Jan 09

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#5 Apr 20, 2013
And where are the usual suspects claiming that hate crimes perpetrated by blacks are never prosecuted?
SLIF

Canada

#7 Apr 20, 2013
Lesbians should plaster all of the vile straight mens dick photos and phone numbers on gay mens washroom walls in the gay bars,because those people keep responding to the women seeking women ads on Craigslist.
Eric 2016

Jefferson, GA

#8 Apr 20, 2013
RalphB wrote:
And where are the usual suspects claiming that hate crimes perpetrated by blacks are never prosecuted?
ONLY because the victim is a homosexual. IF the victim were a plain old average "White guy" as always no "hate-crime" would exist. Don't you know the multicult totem pole? Homosexuals are moving up the multicult totem pole. Where are YOU when a crime like Newsom-Christian murders or the Wichita Massacre occur? Incidently both of these HORRIFIC BRUTAL crimes were never deemed so-called "hate crimes." Sit down clown.
SLIF

Canada

#9 Apr 20, 2013
RalphB wrote:
And where are the usual suspects claiming that hate crimes perpetrated by blacks are never prosecuted?
In the gayborhood,just scratch your nose,and 4 taxis want to to hop in with them.Off topc,I know.

Since: Mar 09

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#10 Apr 20, 2013
Cory wrote:
What, did some queer play grab azz with Normal and Decent dudes?
Didn't see the video of the incident, did ya?

“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

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#12 Apr 20, 2013
Eric 2016 wrote:
ONLY because the victim is a homosexual. IF the victim were a plain old average "White guy" as always no "hate-crime" would exist. Don't you know the multicult totem pole? Homosexuals are moving up the multicult totem pole. Where are YOU when a crime like Newsom-Christian murders or the Wichita Massacre occur? Incidently both of these HORRIFIC BRUTAL crimes were never deemed so-called "hate crimes." Sit down clown.
It might help if you had an actual idea as to when hate crime charges can be filed and why they would be. Hate crimes can only be charged if animus toward a group the victim is seen by the perpetrator as belonging to is the sole motivation for the crime to have occurred. It cannot be charged simply because the victim is gay/straight, Black/White, or any other suspect classifications covered under these laws, the perpetrator's motive has to be evident or expressed. It is charged to enhance the penalty for the underlying charges necessary to bring the charge. The reason being that hatred of a group is a real sh*tty excuse for a reason to go around hurting folk. It's not usually charged in crimes where the penalties available under the underlying charge are already severe enough to express outrage. If you're charging someone with a capital crime already, the additional charge is just more work for no real return when you're going to put them to sleep anyways. It can also be a difficult charge to prove to a jury if it isn't clear, or not the only motive in play. FYI, even gay folk can and have been convicted of anti-gay hate crime.
Tea Bag Residue Cleanup

Levittown, PA

#13 Apr 20, 2013
Eric 2016 wrote:
<quoted text> ONLY because the victim is a....
The KKK is surely upset that being a rank bigot is getting harder and harder.

"Hate crime" doesn't just mean a perp of one race targeting a victim of another race for some crime. There has to be some indication that bias played a role.

But stuff like this is too complicated for birthers and creationists and racist, homophobic christianists. Which, again, is why we have federal hate crimes protections.
Eric 2016

Jefferson, GA

#14 Apr 20, 2013
Tea Bag Residue Cleanup wrote:
<quoted text>
The KKK is surely upset that being a rank bigot is getting harder and harder.
"Hate crime" doesn't just mean a perp of one race targeting a victim of another race for some crime. There has to be some indication that bias played a role.
But stuff like this is too complicated for birthers and creationists and racist, homophobic christianists. Which, again, is why we have federal hate crimes protections.
And there will NEVER be an "indication that bias played a role" if the victim is White and heterosexual according to anti-White "rayciss" trash like yourself. Let's see you've just indicated to all that have an IQ above 75 that you have a "bias" against "birthers" "creationists" and whatever a "christianist" is, and mention something as silly and antiquated as the KKK. Hey freak, the "KKK" could hold their national meeting in the back of a Volkswagon and is made up of half Jerry Springer show contestants and other half FBI informants. Thanks for letting everyone see your facist hatred towards those who don't tow your anti-White, not to mention anti-birther, anti-creationist, anti-heterosexual, and not to leave out that all important cultural marxist construct known as an anti-"christianist." bwah hahahahaha. Sit down clown.

“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

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#15 Apr 20, 2013
Eric 2016 wrote:
And there will NEVER be an "indication that bias played a role" if the victim is White and heterosexual...
Just so you know, the case that went before the US Supreme Court to test whether state hate crime laws were constitutionally acceptable, the case of A Black man who assaulted a complete stranger because he happened to be White and was screaming kill Whitey at him as he beat him to a pulp before somebody else pulled him off. Hate crimes do not specify races or sexual orientations or any of the other classifications, if you got one, no one can attack you because of it, regardless of which it it is.
Eric 2016

Jefferson, GA

#16 Apr 20, 2013
Rick in Kansas wrote:
<quoted text>Just so you know, the case that went before the US Supreme Court to test whether state hate crime laws were constitutionally acceptable, the case of A Black man who assaulted a complete stranger because he happened to be White and was screaming kill Whitey at him as he beat him to a pulp before somebody else pulled him off. Hate crimes do not specify races or sexual orientations or any of the other classifications, if you got one, no one can attack you because of it, regardless of which it it is.
Plenty of "hate crimes" to prosecute then. Besides the horrific Christian-Newsom murders and the Wichita Massacre we have countless White victims"flash mobs" and "Beat Whitey Nights" etc. Of course these crimes don't garner much attention from "our" controlled media because non-white racism doesn't fit "their" agenda. Dare I say that White heterosexuals are the most common victims of REAL "hate crimes." But you will never see that on some Hollyweird movie screen or your local or cable news outlet. You see there is quite a difference in the REEL propaganda and REAL life.

“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

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#17 Apr 20, 2013
Have you considered therapy, reason and you don't seem to get along so well. Try and catch up with the rest of the class dear. Hate crimes charges are rarely pursued when the underlying charges, such as murder, will be sending the perpetrator away for most if not all of their natural life, if not end it. They are unnecessary. Blacks have been charged with hate crimes against Whites, I even know of an instance where a gay person was charged with a hate crime against a gay person. If you don't like how they are enforced where you are, run for prosecutor.
Eric 2016

Jefferson, GA

#18 Apr 20, 2013
Rick in Kansas wrote:
Have you considered therapy, reason and you don't seem to get along so well. Try and catch up with the rest of the class dear. Hate crimes charges are rarely pursued when the underlying charges, such as murder, will be sending the perpetrator away for most if not all of their natural life, if not end it. They are unnecessary. Blacks have been charged with hate crimes against Whites, I even know of an instance where a gay person was charged with a hate crime against a gay person. If you don't like how they are enforced where you are, run for prosecutor.
Have you considered a lobotomy douchebag. Now why don't you go click your heels together and say "You aren't in Kansas anymore Dorothy. If I want a lesson on DIEversity or "hate crimes" I'll look somewhere else besides some phony living in a homogeneously White state like Kansas. bwah hahahahaha. Sit down hayseed. Class dismissed. I'm bored with you goober.

“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

this one

#19 Apr 20, 2013
Well, that didn't do a whole lot to change my mind on the therapy suggestion. Toodles cupcake, you were seriously in over your head anyways.
Tea Bag Residue Cleanup

Levittown, PA

#20 Apr 21, 2013
Eric 2016 wrote:
<quoted text>Plenty of "hate crimes" to prosecute then. Besides the horrific Christian-Newsom murders and the Wichita Massacre....
Again, "hate crime" doesn't mean "white victim." Just as "hate crime" doesn't mean "female victim" or "black victim."

There has to be an actual crime and an indication that the crime was motivated in part or in whole by a specific animus against a particular type of victim(s).

But this is too complex for the racist Jethros.

“Luke laughs at hypocrites!”

Since: Sep 10

Palm Springs, California

#21 Apr 21, 2013
Eric 2016 wrote:
<quoted text>Have you considered a lobotomy douchebag. Now why don't you go click your heels together and say "You aren't in Kansas anymore Dorothy. If I want a lesson on DIEversity or "hate crimes" I'll look somewhere else besides some phony living in a homogeneously White state like Kansas. bwah hahahahaha. Sit down hayseed. Class dismissed. I'm bored with you goober.
Wow, I'm surprised you haven't shorted out your computer by now due to all tears of self pity you've shed.

"Wahh, wahh, oh, why aren't we white hetero males TOP of the heap anymore? Wahh, wahh!"

Calm down, Archie Bunker.

DNF

“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#23 Apr 21, 2013
Chumley wrote:
<quoted text>Hey, whatever happened two The Golem?
LMFAO
God decided Golem had suffered enough from people like you and ended his pain.
Chaz

Lockhart, TX

#24 Apr 21, 2013
DNF wrote:
<quoted text>God decided Golem had suffered enough from people like you and ended his pain.
ROFL

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