Bible Dispute:Atheist's Concern Rejected, Books Returned to Park

May 20, 2013 Full story: Fox News 171

An atheist, Buckner believes that no religious literature should be provided in government-owned lodging, and he presented that concern to management at the Amicalola Falls State Park.

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Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#74 May 23, 2013
Cat74 wrote:
The proof will come on the last day of your life. If you are right I will just be eaten by bugs, but if I am right you will be in hell for eternity.
good to know that hedging your bet is the depth of your faith...seems you might be in hell also, if there were such a thing...

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#75 May 23, 2013
lighteredknot wrote:
<quoted text>
We have never taken religious advice or instructions from atheist. You are welcome to non believe all you like. Bless your little heart.
Atheist might find a more common cause than bashing those who believe, such as finding the body of Madeline Ohaire. When her body is found all of you could bury her and build a monument of believing in, "Non Believing". Bless your little heart.
maybe you should start. nonbelievers generally know more about religious cults than those that profess to believe in them. this is how I know your cult is based on proven lies...

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#76 May 23, 2013
downhill246 wrote:
<quoted text>
Liar. You are just pushing another tired, long discredited non religious talking point.
"The World has never before known a godlessness as organized, militarized and tenaciously malevolent as that preached by Marxism. Within the philosophical system of Marx and Lenin and at the heart of their psychology, HATRED OF GOD is the principle driving force, more fundamental than all their political and economic pretensions. Militant atheism is not merely incidental or marginal to Communist policy; it is not a side effect, but the central pivot. To achieve its diabolical ends, Communism needs to control a population devoid of religious and national feeling, and this entails a destruction of faith and nationhood. Communists proclaim both of these objectives openly, and just as openly put them into practice.”
Alexander Solzhenitsyn
"Militant atheism is not merely incidental or marginal to Communist policy; it is not a side effect, but the central pivot."
"Militant atheism is not merely incidental or marginal to Communist policy; it is not a side effect, but the central pivot."
"Militant atheism is not merely incidental or marginal to Communist policy; it is not a side effect, but the central pivot."
If in doubt, reread.
you confuse "hatred of god" with realizing the god of your cult is a myth...
WoW

Belleview, FL

#77 May 23, 2013
Fear not, atheists. It's okay for you not to believe in God, He believes in you and loves you despite your lack of faith.
xianity is EVIL

Halifax, Canada

#78 May 23, 2013
Cat74 wrote:
The proof will come on the last day of your life. If you are right I will just be eaten by bugs, but if I am right you will be in hell for eternity.
Buddha doesnt send anyone to hell you silly kristain

www.evilbible.com
xianity is EVIL

Halifax, Canada

#79 May 23, 2013
WoW wrote:
Fear not, atheists. It's okay for you not to believe in God, He believes in you and loves you despite your lack of faith.
prove it

Ill wait..lol

www.evilbible.com/Imaginary.htm
xianity is EVIL

Halifax, Canada

#80 May 23, 2013
xianity is EVIL

Halifax, Canada

#81 May 23, 2013
missy starkweeetherz wrote:
God wants us to buy all the stuff what is advertised and for sale or not. Now when this comes to be we shall all have jobs and all kinds of stuff we never thought about all around us including happy jobcreators creating like crazy to show us they can. There will be piece and plenty and coffe in the morning and nooky at night and dogs in the lane and knecking in the elevator and songs in our throats and coats in the closet and all that kind of stuff. Please buy some stuff today to prove this prophecy right. If we dont buy stuff nothing will get sold and then we have warrrrrrrz to force countries to buy stuff we have that they already have some or plenty of. This is nasty and not as much fun a s selling stuff to a waiting flock. Thank you.
why should I buy anything if I already have everything I need?
Cujo

Regina, Canada

#82 May 23, 2013
American Lady wrote:
<quoted text>
WHAT ...
about the date on your site link ...
IS SO HARD
for you
to TAKE into "context" ...
pUnk!
Yes, your nation is even less christian than it was in 2009. Your loosing, because the religious hate facts, evidence, logic and reason.
Cujo

Regina, Canada

#83 May 23, 2013
WoW wrote:
Fear not, atheists. It's okay for you not to believe in God, He believes in you and loves you despite your lack of faith.
What was the last loving thing your god did, and proove it!

“THERE IS NO GOD”

Since: Feb 09

Northern California

#84 May 23, 2013
lighteredknot wrote:
Christian Bibles win again.
Teaching this to your children is so Christian:

GOD: 2 Kings 18:27, "...that they may eat their own dung and drink their own pisss with you..."

I just can't imagine teaching young children about eating shit and drinking piss in Sunday School. Yet this is what is read to children in Sunday School.
WoW

Belleview, FL

#85 May 23, 2013
Cujo wrote:
<quoted text>
What was the last loving thing your god did, and proove it!
Sorry, that's personal to me. Prove it? You wouldn't want me trying to convert you, would you? Isn't that one of your problems with the faithful? That we spread it everywhere, trying to invade your lives? No thanks.
Incidentally, I don't have a problem with leaving people to wallow in their ignorance, if that makes them happy.

“THERE IS NO GOD”

Since: Feb 09

Northern California

#86 May 23, 2013
Cujo wrote:
<quoted text>
What was the last loving thing your god did, and proove it!
The Bible has no mention, no not one, not a single mention of a kind decent loving act by the BibleGod monster. Sure, the Bible SAYS God is good, kind, decent and loving, but there is not a single account of anything one could consider loving and kind.

EVIL COMES FROM THE LORD:
"it came to pass, when the evil spirit from God was upon Saul, that David took an harp, and played with his hand: so Saul was refreshed, and was well, and the evil spirit departed from him" (1 Sam. 16:23).
"it came to pass on the morrow, that the evil spirit from God came upon Saul...." (1 Sam. 18:10).
"the evil spirit from the Lord was upon Saul...." (1 Sam. 19:9).
"Saul's servants said unto him, Behold now, an evil spirit from God troubles thee" (1 Sam. 16:15).
"the spirit of the Lord departed from Saul, and an evil spirit from the Lord troubles him" (1 Sam. 16:14).
"...evil came down from the Lord unto the gate of Jerusalem" (Micah 1:12).
"Thus saith the Lord, Behold I will raise up evil against thee out of thine own house, and I will take thy wives before thine eyes, and give them unto thy neighbor, and he shall lie with thy wives in the sight of this sun. For thou did it secretly: but I will do this thing before all Israel, and before the sun" (2 Sam. 12:11-12).
"God sent an evil spirit between Abimelech and the men of Shechem...." (Judges 9:23).

Pew Warmers would have us believe God heals headaches but refuses to heal amputee's returning from combat.

“THERE IS NO GOD”

Since: Feb 09

Northern California

#87 May 23, 2013
Cujo wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, your nation is even less christian than it was in 2009. You're loosing, because the religious hate facts, evidence, logic and reason.
Central to any sensible society is the belief that truth is discovered through the interchange of ideas in an open forum. Yet, Christians are repeatedly admonished to avoid those of another persuasion and shun the exchange of ideas through dialogue. They are told to flee non-biblical ideas because the latter are not only wrong and lead believers astray but possessed by those with less than honorable motives. Christian beliefs are not to be open to questions and doubts. Many verses expose these dogmatic sentiments:

ROM. 16:17-18 RSV ("I appeal to you, brethren, to take note of those who created dissensions and difficulties, in opposition to the doctrine which you have been taught; avoid them. For such persons do not serve our Lord Christ, but their own appetites, and by fair and flattering words they deceive the hearts of the simple-minded"),
2 TIM. 2:16-17 ("Avoid such godless chatter, for it will lead people into more and more ungodliness, and their talk will eat its way like gangrene"),
1 TIM. 6:20 ("O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called...."),
2 TIM. 2:14 RSV ("Remind them of this, and charge them before the Lord to avoid disputing about words, which does no good, but only ruins the hearers"),
TITUS 3:9-10 ("But avoid stupid controversies, genealogies, dissensions, and quarrels over the law, for they are unprofitable and futile. As for a man who is factious, after admonishing him once or twice, have nothing more to do with him...."), ROM. 14:1 RSV ("As for the man who is weak in faith, welcome him, but not for disputes over opinions"),
1 TIM. 6:3-5 RSV ("If any one teaches otherwise and does not agree with the sound words of our Lord Jesus Christ and the teaching which accords with godliness, he is puffed up with conceit, he knows nothing; he has a morbid craving for controversy and for disputes about words, which produce envy, dissensions, slander, base suspicions, and wrangling among men...."),
COL. 2:4 ("I say this in order that no one may delude you with beguiling speech"),
2 TIM. 2:23-25 RSV ("Have nothing to do with stupid, senseless controversies, you know that they breed quarrels. And the Lord's servant must not be quarrelsome but kindly to every one, an apt teacher, forbearing, correcting his opponents with gentleness").

How one corrects one's opponents with gentleness after one has been repeatedly told to avoid the opposition entirely is rather hard to fathom.

Imagine giving your followers the impression in

2 THESS. 3:2 ("And that we may be delivered from unreasonable and wicked men: for all men have not faith"),
1 JOHN 2:22 ("Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son"), and
2 JOHN 7 ("For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist")

that all those who lack faith in Christianity in general and Jesus in particular are unreasonable and wicked! Who would be open to dialogue with anybody so portrayed?

“THERE IS NO GOD”

Since: Feb 09

Northern California

#88 May 23, 2013
WoW wrote:
<quoted text>
Sorry, that's personal to me. Prove it? You wouldn't want me trying to convert you, would you? Isn't that one of your problems with the faithful? That we spread it everywhere, trying to invade your lives? No thanks.
Incidentally, I don't have a problem with leaving people to wallow in their ignorance, if that makes them happy.
Blah blah blah, you can't prove it for one simple reason: NO PROOF EXISTS! That is how it is with you Pew Warmers, all you have is hearsay, your mamma told you, you believed her, end of story.
ONTG

Carol Stream, IL

#90 May 23, 2013
tha Professor wrote:
<quoted text>
Don't you wonder why right-wingers are such liars, racists, and clueless asshat conspiracy nuts?
I think it's all that Biblical influence when they're young. Stunts their mental growth...:)
What stunted yours?
Cujo

Regina, Canada

#91 May 23, 2013
downhill246 wrote:
<quoted text>
Sounds great yet historically,nations that promoted atheism as government policy were not free, moral or compassionate.
Articles 3, 5, 24, 27, and 130 of the The Mexican Constitution of 1917 as originally enacted were anticlerical and enormously restricted religious freedoms.[12] At first the anticlerical provisions were only sporadically enforced, but when President Plutarco Elías Calles took office, he enforced the provisions strictly.[12] Calles’ Mexico has been characterized as an atheist state[13] and his program as being one to eradicate religion in Mexico.[14]...
Between 1926 and 1934 at least 40 priests were killed.[25] Where there were 4,500 priests operating within the country before the rebellion, in 1934 there were only 334 priests licensed by the government to serve fifteen million people, the rest having been eliminated by emigration, expulsion, and assassination.[25][26] By 1935, 17 states had no priest at all.[27]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_atheism
Sounds great, except you are completely wrong. Atheism is simply a non belief in a deity. There is no doctrine, or scripture of any kind to "promote", as you say. There are atheists who are anti-religion, and have governed as such, but it has absolutely zero to do with atheism. NONE!

Now, let's talk about theocracies. There you will find atrocities committed against man kind, based on religious doctrine and scripture.

p.s. Hitler was a Catholic, but guess what, I just think he was crazy and had crazy political ideologies, with a whole lot of religious bigotry towards the Jews. But I am not going to blame all Catholics because of one nut case. See the difference?
Cujo

Regina, Canada

#92 May 23, 2013
WoW wrote:
<quoted text>
Sorry, that's personal to me. Prove it? You wouldn't want me trying to convert you, would you? Isn't that one of your problems with the faithful? That we spread it everywhere, trying to invade your lives? No thanks.
Incidentally, I don't have a problem with leaving people to wallow in their ignorance, if that makes them happy.
I am totally open to the possibility of a god existing, there just is not any real evidence. You ar welcome to convert my, but you need to proove it 1st. I also have no problem with people wallowing in their ignorance (religious people), I do however, have a problem when they spread their ignorance.
Cujo

Regina, Canada

#93 May 23, 2013
Wow, bad gramer I did. "there is no real evidence" an "you are welcome to convert me".
downhill246

Boca Raton, FL

#94 May 23, 2013
Lawrence Wolf wrote:
<quoted text>You have built a straw man. No one is promoting atheism as government policy, at least not in this country. That would be no better than a theocratic form of government.
What we have in America is a secular society, in which atheists and religious people alike are free to express their viewpoits. In my opinion, neither religiosity nor atheism should play a role in government policy.
The only reason atheists aren't promoting atheism as government policy is the fact they don't have the numbers or political clout to do so. When written, the establishment clause was a restriction on the federal government only and to use it to restrict the states is a 20th century corruption of the intent of the clause.

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