Candidate for Commission Admits Lie

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“Liberty and justice for all”

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#1 Feb 11, 2010
Mr. Jim Jacob’s wrote a letter to the editor in the Herald on 1/20/10 and it is posted in the Cave People are Wrong Wrong Wrong forum.

His letter was entitled “Clear Now.” It is very clear. Jim Jacobs, a member of Truth or Consequences’ Planning & Zoning Commission and candidate for City Commission, is unfit to lead this community as either a member of the Planning & Zoning Commission or as a future City Commissioner. The current City Commission has the duty to remove Mr. Jacobs immediately from the Planning & Zoning Commission for malfeasance and dereliction of his duties and said request has been made.
Mr. Jacobs improperly discussed an issue under appeal with the Planning & Zoning Commission both in the supposed conversation he had with a “CAVE” person and in the newspaper. The Commission is quasi-judicial, and his ex parte communication is both illegal and unethical. Would you expect a judge to discuss an issue—with his decision “clear” in his mind—before the trial had actually begun? That is exactly what Mr. Jacobs did last week, twice.
An IPRA request for the audio recording Mr. Jacobs declared he had of this phone conversation was right after the letter was printed. Mr. Jacobs and the City of Truth or Consequences responded on January 25 to the request for the recorded telephone conversation, a public record required to be disclosed under IPRA.
There is no recording of any conversation because there was no conversation, and according to Mr. Jacobs,“it was just a joke.” Is that a euphemism for “lie”?

As for the rest of his ridiculous assertions that a business is only a business if it has a cash register or that a mine is not a mine, well let's just lies in a lie are all a lie.

Definitely vote...but not for Jim Jacobs. We don't need "business as usual."
just cuz

Truth Or Consequences, NM

#2 Feb 11, 2010
At least the guy hid it good, since not too many people read that nasty rag anymore. It's sort of like hitting the jackpot when they actually get a story right. Mostly they're just re-writes from the Sentinel anyway since their 'news' happened a week earlier. They'd do better if the just copied the stories instead of coming up with their own.

I just wish the Sentinel would do more investigative type pieces, but from what I understand they only have two or three reporters trying to cover everything that's going on and probably can't afford to hire anyone else.

Oh well, maybe someday. The Sentinel certainly has a much better paper overall. Easier to read and a lot more accurate as to what actually goes on at all those meetings. Hey, maybe the Herald will just close their doors and we wouldn't have to put up with them anymore? It looks like the only thing keeping them afloat these days are those Walmart flyers!

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#3 Feb 11, 2010
just cuz wrote:
I just wish the Sentinel would do more investigative type pieces, but from what I understand they only have two or three reporters trying to cover everything that's going on and probably can't afford to hire anyone else.
You could call Myrna and ask why they did not run the press release on this story. It was submitted, with all documentation, and they printed nothing. I would think the voters of TorC would be interested in knowing a candidate had lied, had to admit he lied, and was recused from his duties of which he is under oath. But, I guess the Sentinel didn't think it "newsworthy."
just cuz

Truth Or Consequences, NM

#4 Feb 12, 2010
Deb2me wrote:
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You could call Myrna and ask why they did not run the press release on this story. It was submitted, with all documentation, and they printed nothing. I would think the voters of TorC would be interested in knowing a candidate had lied, had to admit he lied, and was recused from his duties of which he is under oath. But, I guess the Sentinel didn't think it "newsworthy."
I heard from someone downtown today that Myrna was in the hospital. I think they said she was going to one of the facilities in Las Cruces. They didn't know what was wrong, but her husband had to take her to SVH early this morning.

“Liberty and justice for all”

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#5 Feb 12, 2010
just cuz wrote:
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I heard from someone downtown today that Myrna was in the hospital. I think they said she was going to one of the facilities in Las Cruces. They didn't know what was wrong, but her husband had to take her to SVH early this morning.
I'm sorry to hear that.
Truth not Lies

Walnut Grove, CA

#6 Feb 12, 2010
Deb2me wrote:
Mr. Jim Jacob’s wrote a letter to the editor in the Herald on 1/20/10 and it is posted in the Cave People are Wrong Wrong Wrong forum.
His letter was entitled “Clear Now.” It is very clear. Jim Jacobs, a member of Truth or Consequences’ Planning & Zoning Commission and candidate for City Commission, is unfit to lead this community as either a member of the Planning & Zoning Commission or as a future City Commissioner. The current City Commission has the duty to remove Mr. Jacobs immediately from the Planning & Zoning Commission for malfeasance and dereliction of his duties and said request has been made.
Mr. Jacobs improperly discussed an issue under appeal with the Planning & Zoning Commission both in the supposed conversation he had with a “CAVE” person and in the newspaper. The Commission is quasi-judicial, and his ex parte communication is both illegal and unethical. Would you expect a judge to discuss an issue—with his decision “clear” in his mind—before the trial had actually begun? That is exactly what Mr. Jacobs did last week, twice.
An IPRA request for the audio recording Mr. Jacobs declared he had of this phone conversation was right after the letter was printed. Mr. Jacobs and the City of Truth or Consequences responded on January 25 to the request for the recorded telephone conversation, a public record required to be disclosed under IPRA.
There is no recording of any conversation because there was no conversation, and according to Mr. Jacobs,“it was just a joke.” Is that a euphemism for “lie”?
As for the rest of his ridiculous assertions that a business is only a business if it has a cash register or that a mine is not a mine, well let's just lies in a lie are all a lie.
Definitely vote...but not for Jim Jacobs. We don't need "business as usual."
So lets see: Kim Audette, with 3 pending law suits against the City of T or C, can be an effective commissioner? She would have to recuse herself from almost everyting. Then, what do we know about your other buddy Fenn? A permanant restraining order on him by the State of NM (CYFD) and the Torres family, leads me to believe he has either a temper problem or boundaries issues. Everyone in your eyes are wrong except your circle of friends. Look outside the box you might be surprised.
Voter

Silver City, NM

#7 Feb 12, 2010
Don't fall for more deception from Deb2me and people she supports.

Millie McLeod is just another "Green" supporter. Toomey and Ron Fenn weren't successful with the recall to oust Stagner, and knew they couldn't get Montgomery recalled. But, all along, they have been doing favors for Steve Green trying to get him into line to become Mayor.

Don't put more extreme liberals, CAVE people, and others with corrupt conduct into public office.

Their new strategy is to build the Commission with industry insiders (all the types who get into office for the purpose of making decisions for favors, lining their own pockets, or gaining political power).

What REAL economy have the arts people ever created for T or C?
Oh heather schwindlapp

Coolidge, TX

#8 Feb 12, 2010
You are transparent, not a local, and not a voter. Nice nic though.

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#9 Feb 12, 2010
Voter wrote:
But, all along, they have been doing favors for Steve Green trying to get him into line to become Mayor.
It is quite obvious you haven't seen Week in Review Truth or Consequences, Year in Review 2009.

If so, you most certainly would not be calling me a Green supporter.

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#10 Feb 12, 2010
Truth not Lies wrote:
So lets see: Kim Audette, with 3 pending law suits against the City of T or C, can be an effective commissioner?
All on illegal governance issues. If she was a Commissioner they City wouldn't be doing the illegal governance. I'd think that would eliminate future illegal governance hence no future lawsuits. Time will just need to be spent cleaning up the last couple years of illegal governance rather than continuing on with such.
Truth not Lies wrote:
She would have to recuse herself from almost everyting.
The HSLD litigation is done, and they are simply awaiting the Judge's decision. So nothing to be recused on as nothing else can be done but wait for judgment.

The IPRA litigation is going to trial in 3 weeks before Ms. Audette will be sworn in. So, it too will be done.

The RCPUD appeal looks like it may be done in a month in a default entry.

She most likely will be done with all three BEFORE she gets sworn in.
Truth not Lies wrote:
Then, what do we know about your other buddy Fenn?
He single-handedly brought the Municipal Court house investigation by the "agencies" to a close. What did they find--which was also in the Audit Report presented last week--we bought a big xerox machine rather than construct a public works building. The bid MUST include the heating/cooling/flooring, and looks like Andersen will have to pay back to the City over $20K. The procurement codes were not followed in a couple dozen ways. As such, when civil litigation is brought by any member of the public (and it does not have to Mr. Fenn), the Commissioners who approved the courthouse in violation of the Procurement Code must pay--out of their pocket--the money back. That's $280K. All while being horribly abused by Aguilera and Torres. Oh, and did I mention the current investigation by the DA for criminal charges. Go, Ron!!!
Truth not Lies wrote:
leads me to believe he has either a temper problem or boundaries issues
.

Ask him. And if Ron Fenn had temper issues he would have throttled Comm. Torres months ago. Those who have watched the Commissioner meetings on the TV can see Mr. Fenn has no temper issues.
Oh heather schwindlapp

Coolidge, TX

#11 Feb 12, 2010
Only April Heather (aka April Schmidlapp aka Heather Schmidlapp aka Voter) would think that, Deb. Her contempt for Green and you has her putting you both in the same box.
Paranoia and delusion lead to bizarre conclusions and posts. Hers show strong signs of obsessive compulsive disorder as well. With luck, she'll obsess on hugging trees.

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#12 Feb 12, 2010
Oh heather schwindlapp wrote:
Only April Heather (aka April Schmidlapp aka Heather Schmidlapp aka Voter) would think that, Deb. Her contempt for Green and you has her putting you both in the same box.
Paranoia and delusion lead to bizarre conclusions and posts. Hers show strong signs of obsessive compulsive disorder as well. With luck, she'll obsess on hugging trees.
The really tragic thing is I know April ran into some corruption issues when she was here. Rather than go after the problem, however, she chose to go after victims of the same corruption, and sold her soul (and I'm sure she had one at one time) to align with the corruptors. Truly quite sad.

That and her inability to research. You know all that talk she had about the local artists not getting business licenses, there's a state law that allows exemptions for business licenses for artists who make less than a $1000 a year. NMSA 3-38-3. I know Paula did not make $1000 with her beer can earrings. Know of any artist in town who made a $1000 a year?

Oh, and the other massage therapists not being independent contractors? As an independent consultant for 5 years and then running consulting companies (under the same Federal tax laws as an independent contractor when working at a client site), she was soooooo off on her arguments. Those massage therapists working at all the different hotels, on call, were definitely independent contractors.

But you notice she's been quiet on Bartoo not having business registration for a mine. Guess April only cares about her "personal" issues and enemies rather than any semblance of what is right and wrong or even the topic of business registration.

She's "green" with envy. Always personal...never about improving anything. And, defintely out of touch...with reality and TorC.
durablebrad

Espanola, NM

#13 Feb 12, 2010
The Fenn family has nothing to be ashamed of in regards to their attempt to rescue a toddler from the clutches of a predatory adult who eventually raped the child. In the process of attempting to rescue an innocent girl from such a debilitating threat, a currently sitting judge in Sierra County abused the system, and the Fenn family forfeited custody of that child due to HIS actions alone.

In an attempt to maintain contact with the child to whom they had become attached while she was in their care, they sent written correspondence. For that fact, and that fact alone, they have been served with a permanent injunction at the behest of the relatives of Freddie Torres.

Research this for yourselves if you doubt this account. It's not quite the damning and sexy story that readers have inferred from references made in the local papers, but it is the truth... just ask Judge Matt Reynolds.

I would trust Ron Fenn with all of my worldly possessions, the well-being of my most beloved family members, and the sane and responsible investment and expenditure of all my local tax dollars. I cannot say the same thing for a single current member of the Truth or Consequences City Commission... including Steve Green.
Truth not Lies wrote:
<quoted text>So lets see: Kim Audette, with 3 pending law suits against the City of T or C, can be an effective commissioner? She would have to recuse herself from almost everyting. Then, what do we know about your other buddy Fenn? A permanant restraining order on him by the State of NM (CYFD) and the Torres family, leads me to believe he has either a temper problem or boundaries issues. Everyone in your eyes are wrong except your circle of friends. Look outside the box you might be surprised.
Just cuz

Truth Or Consequences, NM

#15 Feb 13, 2010
torcsophie wrote:
We're sending her a carton of cigarettes for a get well present - hope she's in a 'smoking' room at whatever facility she's in!
That is cruel and uncalled for. I hope you never get sick or experience medical problems and find out that others wish you ill. We all have problems, we're human. To say something like that about someone you probably don't even know personally, whether you agree with her or not, is spiteful and unnecessary. I don't know her myself, and I certainly don't agree with everything she writes in her column. But I don't wish her, or anyone, to have to go through uncomfortable medical issues.
tojustcuz for torcsophie

Espanola, NM

#16 Feb 13, 2010
I don't agree with you at all. I hope torcsophie DOES experience medical problems and find out how much others wish her ill.
durablebrad

Espanola, NM

#17 Feb 13, 2010
Can't you FEEL the love?

I gotta' wonder at moments like this: "What would Jesus say?"
tojustcuz for torcsophie wrote:
I don't agree with you at all. I hope torcsophie DOES experience medical problems and find out how much others wish her ill.
joey

Lincoln, NE

#18 Feb 13, 2010
He'd say durablebrad is a douche.
notsophie

Silver City, NM

#19 Feb 14, 2010
And, Peg Leg is stinkin' up the town.

“Liberty and justice for all”

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#21 Feb 14, 2010
notsophie wrote:
And, Peg Leg is stinkin' up the town.
I know April is posting from Santa Fe, so this might actually be her. Regardless of whomever this comment comes from, you are a low-life POS.

I did think the remark from torcsophie was callous, but unlike the posters have remarked, no where did torcsophie wish Myrna ill. Is Myrna a heavy smoker? Yes. Has Myrna on numerous occasions referred to her smoking in her business as her right? Yes. Has Myrna refused to obey the law and not smoke in her business, exposing her employees and customers to the stench and harm of second-hand smoke? Yes.

And just to make it clear, I am a smoker.

But to compare what is most likely self-inflicted illness caused from smoking and an injury caused from a drunk driver--the loss of a leg--is beyond indecent.
for torcsophie

Espanola, NM

#22 Feb 14, 2010
And your point is...?

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