Gun, Ammo Sales Soar as New Regulatio...

Gun, Ammo Sales Soar as New Regulations Feared

There are 40 comments on the The Epoch Times story from Dec 25, 2012, titled Gun, Ammo Sales Soar as New Regulations Feared. In it, The Epoch Times reports that:

Firearms and ammo sales have soared in recent weeks after the Newtown, Conn. school shooting tragedy, as gun enthusiasts fear that certain semi-automatic weapons and magazines would soon be banned.

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DFL Carnage

Minneapolis, MN

#22 Dec 27, 2012
LynneB wrote:
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I don't think I'd have a problem with that. Responsible gun ownership isn't something that should be hidden. Of course, peoples' privacy should be respected, which isn't something that the criminal element cares about anyway. You have to be registered and fingerprinted to get a carry permit anyway, so it's already a matter of public record.
Soooo, what if LynnB or RalphX for that matter had a spouse that was so violent that he/she attacked you and nearly killed you.

So you managed to live but the judicial system failed to incarcerate your abusive spouse.

Sooo you decided to move into the country in a different state and buy a firearm to defend yourself from the next attack that would certianly be fatal. Sooo along comes the Journal media outlet that publishes your name, address and the fact that you are carrying a firearm.

Your ex-spouse now knows where you live and that you have a firearm. So he/she is ready to attack you with adaquate weapons to kill you.

Happy now?
Turnabout is fair play

AOL

#23 Dec 27, 2012
The Journal media folks got what they deserved. Using the same "rights" someone published all of their personal information, pictures of their homes, etc...

Including the fact that the author of the piece conveniently forgot to include his name and home address on the map even though he is a firearm owner.

Responsible journalism - I think not. Weasels trying to sell their rag, exploiting the recent tragedy.

They got exactly what they deserved. They all disconnected their phone numbers, shut off their internet accounts. Scattering like rats.

A taste of their own medicine.

http://christopherfountain.wordpress.com/2012...

“Show no Quarter !”

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#24 Dec 27, 2012
DFL Carnage wrote:
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Soooo, what if LynnB or RalphX for that matter had a spouse that was so violent that he/she attacked you and nearly killed you.
So you managed to live but the judicial system failed to incarcerate your abusive spouse.
Sooo you decided to move into the country in a different state and buy a firearm to defend yourself from the next attack that would certianly be fatal. Sooo along comes the Journal media outlet that publishes your name, address and the fact that you are carrying a firearm.
Your ex-spouse now knows where you live and that you have a firearm. So he/she is ready to attack you with adaquate weapons to kill you.
Happy now?
About five years ago a local paper published all those with full carry permits from two neighboring counties. My name and address were amoung those released . Problem is I had not lived in that county or that state for the matter in over 20 years. Good for me,bad for the people that live in my old house .

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#25 Dec 27, 2012
DFL Carnage wrote:
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Soooo, what if LynnB or RalphX for that matter had a spouse that was so violent that he/she attacked you and nearly killed you.
So you managed to live but the judicial system failed to incarcerate your abusive spouse.
Sooo you decided to move into the country in a different state and buy a firearm to defend yourself from the next attack that would certianly be fatal. Sooo along comes the Journal media outlet that publishes your name, address and the fact that you are carrying a firearm.
Your ex-spouse now knows where you live and that you have a firearm. So he/she is ready to attack you with adaquate weapons to kill you.
Happy now?
No, I'm not happy now? I've never even been in that type of situation. Of course I think what the Journal media did was wrong, but it didn't affect me one way or the other. Why do you insist on belaboring the point? What's done is done. All these media sensations don't do a damn thing to remedy the situations they cause. THEY are the ones who need to exercise some responsibility.

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#26 Dec 27, 2012
Turnabout is fair play wrote:
The Journal media folks got what they deserved. Using the same "rights" someone published all of their personal information, pictures of their homes, etc...
Including the fact that the author of the piece conveniently forgot to include his name and home address on the map even though he is a firearm owner.
Responsible journalism - I think not. Weasels trying to sell their rag, exploiting the recent tragedy.
They got exactly what they deserved. They all disconnected their phone numbers, shut off their internet accounts. Scattering like rats.
A taste of their own medicine.
http://christopherfountain.wordpress.com/2012...
Well, good then. People should exercise personal responsibility no matter what their profession.
Yes I am

Middletown, CT

#27 Dec 27, 2012
Own gun, will kill.
DFL Carnage

Minneapolis, MN

#28 Dec 27, 2012
LynneB wrote:
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No, I'm not happy now? I've never even been in that type of situation. Of course I think what the Journal media did was wrong, but it didn't affect me one way or the other. Why do you insist on belaboring the point? What's done is done. All these media sensations don't do a damn thing to remedy the situations they cause. THEY are the ones who need to exercise some responsibility.
I feel for you because you have no capacity to appreciate situations others can find themselves in.

Government is supposed to protect citizens, NOT publish information that will expose them to harm. Please don't run for Government office that makes decisions to protect the masses.
LynneB

New Haven, CT

#29 Dec 28, 2012
DFL Carnage wrote:
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I feel for you because you have no capacity to appreciate situations others can find themselves in.
Government is supposed to protect citizens, NOT publish information that will expose them to harm. Please don't run for Government office that makes decisions to protect the masses.
Oh, make no mistake, I certainly DO have the capacity to appreciate those types of situations. I've just had the good luck not to find myself in a seriously dire one. I have had someone try to choke me. Once. Got a restraining order the very next day, not that a piece of paper will prevent anyone from doing anyone else harm. I was very lucky in that the person in question decided it was in their best interest to leave me alone.

Government is supposed to protect citizens? Where does it say that? The Purpose of the U.S. Government per the Constitution, as outlined in the opening preamble, was the Founding Fathers' intent to have the federal government perform six fundamental functions. An excerpt from the U.S. Constitution that best expresses these purposes reads, "We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America".
So, to go point by point:
To Form a More Perfect Union: While initially, the (former) colonies weren't united, they soon came to realize that there is strength in solidarity and as such formed an alliance with one another. Thus, the Constitution provides for such a union.

To Establish Justice: The most vital role in a successful democratic government is to ensure justice within the nation. Though the term justice is open to interpretation, the explanation most widely accepted is that the law must be fair, unbiased, and logical. While these standards we are not always met within this nation, the American people should wish to strive for such ideals.

To Provide for the Common Defense: While the Constitution didn't necessarily allow for elite military operations, it did intend for the government to provide a basic system of defense against enemies of the state. The U.S. government has, over the years, broadened the definition of defense and has also utilized this role of the government most often.

To Secure the Blessings of Liberty: The American nation was built around the ideals of individual freedom and liberty; however, the Founding Fathers also came to the realization that certain boundaries must be set forth in order to ensure that such liberties would not breach those of other citizens'. While the government certainly makes it a point to promote such personal liberties, it is up to the American people to constantly challenge the government to provide for such freedoms.

To Promote the General Welfare: A broad purpose of the government that is constantly open to adaptation and growth, is the role of the government to provide the Americna people with services and regulations that are for the public good. Such regulations may include health and food standards, public education, and consumer protection. However, in order to allow capitalism to flourish, the government should leave certain services available to private businesses (such as railroads and airline transportation); this allows market competition to thrive so that the consumer can receive the best services and prices possible.

To Insure Domestic Tranquility: This role of the federal government is relatively self-explanatory in name. The government must provide order in society and allow for domestic peace. It must also prevent the nation from ever ascending into anarchy.

I think personal protection is up to each individual. The police can only provide "protection" after something has already happened.
ARBUCKLE

Newtown, CT

#30 Dec 28, 2012
Four words "Shall not be infringed"
DFL Carnage

Minneapolis, MN

#32 Dec 28, 2012
LynneB wrote:
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Oh, make no mistake, I certainly DO have the capacity to appreciate those types of situations. I've just had the good luck not to find myself in a seriously dire one. I have had someone try to choke me. Once. Got a restraining order the very next day, not that a piece of paper will prevent anyone from doing anyone else harm. I was very lucky in that the person in question decided it was in their best interest to leave me alone.
Government is supposed to protect citizens? Where does it say that? An excerpt from the U.S. Constitution that best expresses these purposes reads, "We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America".
So, to go point by point:
To Form a More Perfect Union: While initially, the (former) colonies weren't united, they soon came to realize that there is strength in solidarity and as such formed an alliance with one another. Thus, the Constitution provides for such a union.
To Establish Justice: The most vital role in a successful democratic government is to ensure justice within the nation. Though the term justice is open to interpretation, the explanation most widely accepted is that the law must be fair, unbiased, and logical. While these standards we are not always met within this nation, the American people should wish to strive for such ideals.
To Provide for the Common Defense: While the Constitution didn't necessarily allow for elite military operations, it did intend for the government to provide a basic system of defense against enemies of the state. The U.S. government has, over the years, broadened the definition of defense and has also utilized this role of the government most often.
To Secure the Blessings of Liberty: The American nation was built around the ideals of individual freedom and liberty; however, the Founding Fathers also came to the realization that certain boundaries must be set forth in order to ensure that such liberties would not breach those of other citizens'. While the government certainly makes it a point to promote such personal liberties, it is up to the American people to constantly challenge the government to provide for such freedoms.
To Promote the General Welfare: A broad purpose of the government that is constantly open to adaptation and growth, is the role of the government to provide the Americna people with services and regulations that are for the public good. Such regulations may include health and food standards, public education, and consumer protection. However, in order to allow capitalism to flourish, the government should leave certain services available to private businesses (such as railroads and airline transportation); this allows market competition to thrive so that the consumer can receive the best services and prices possible.
To Insure Domestic Tranquility: This role of the federal government is relatively self-explanatory in name. The government must provide order in society and allow for domestic peace. It must also prevent the nation from ever ascending into anarchy.
I think personal protection is up to each individual. The police can only provide "protection" after something has already happened.
"The police can only provide "protection" after something has already happened."

Police don't "protect" unless they are proactive having barriers in place to protect citzens. Like the TSA does at airports and armed flight crew on board airplanes.

Police can protect schools IF they are working at the school to protect kids and staff. Police don't protect anybody wher they are 5 mins away.
LynneB

New Haven, CT

#35 Dec 28, 2012
DFL Carnage wrote:
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"The police can only provide "protection" after something has already happened."
Police don't "protect" unless they are proactive having barriers in place to protect citzens. Like the TSA does at airports and armed flight crew on board airplanes.
Police can protect schools IF they are working at the school to protect kids and staff. Police don't protect anybody wher they are 5 mins away.
You can't have "barriers in place" to protect EVERYone. If you set up "barriers" at schools, then you also have to set them up at workplaces, restaurants, laundromats and everywhere else in public. It's a waste of time and resources.

The TSA is a farce and serves only to make money for Chertoff's companies that make those nasty backscatter xray machines. The TSA has not caught even ONE terrorist, but the TSA "workers" (and they are NOT "officers" in ANY sense of the word) have ripped off thousands of innocent American travelers. ABCNews did a story about one of the TSA "officers" who ripped off SEVEN iPads from travelers' luggage, and then denied it, even when they tracked the iPads to the guy's own home! Don't even get me started on the TSA - we didn't need them even one hour after Flight 93 went down. The TSA is nothing but a billion-dollar rip off and a violator of the 4th Amendment rights of every American traveler. Not to mention how they embarrass and humiliate those travelers on a daily basis, by grabbing their crotches, pulling down young girls' shirts, violating people in wheelchairs and with prosthetic devices and "searching" their belongings. Total farce. Invaders of peoples' privacy and violators of 4th Amendment rights.

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#37 Dec 28, 2012
Lynne have my family full support. God bless her.
DFL Carnage

Minneapolis, MN

#39 Dec 28, 2012
LynneB wrote:
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You can't have "barriers in place" to protect EVERYone. If you set up "barriers" at schools, then you also have to set them up at workplaces, restaurants, laundromats and everywhere else in public. It's a waste of time and resources.
The TSA is a farce and serves only to make money for Chertoff's companies that make those nasty backscatter xray machines. The TSA has not caught even ONE terrorist, but the TSA "workers" (and they are NOT "officers" in ANY sense of the word) have ripped off thousands of innocent American travelers. ABCNews did a story about one of the TSA "officers" who ripped off SEVEN iPads from travelers' luggage, and then denied it, even when they tracked the iPads to the guy's own home! Don't even get me started on the TSA - we didn't need them even one hour after Flight 93 went down. The TSA is nothing but a billion-dollar rip off and a violator of the 4th Amendment rights of every American traveler. Not to mention how they embarrass and humiliate those travelers on a daily basis, by grabbing their crotches, pulling down young girls' shirts, violating people in wheelchairs and with prosthetic devices and "searching" their belongings. Total farce. Invaders of peoples' privacy and violators of 4th Amendment rights.
We are talking about school security. So the schools that Obama's kids attend have 10 armed security guards. Why is that?

It's because the armed guards WILL protect the kids.

YOU are very ignorant when you say the kids can't be protected. They certinaly can it just takes some simple planning.

In Utah many teachers are being trained in the use of handguns to allow them to protect themselves and the kids.

Many airline pilots are currently armed with firearms in order to protect their airplanes and flyers. There are many thing that can be done to protect people, this discussion is about schools and the TSA is but one example of how masses of people can be protected. Notice since the TSA was implemented there have been NO terrorist attacks on airplanes and many weapons discovered by the TSA and some plots have been defused.

“'never'”

Since: Mar 11

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#40 Dec 29, 2012
DFL Carnage wrote:
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We are talking about school security. So the schools that Obama's kids attend have 10 armed security guards. Why is that?
It's because the armed guards WILL protect the kids.
YOU are very ignorant when you say the kids can't be protected. They certinaly can it just takes some simple planning.
In Utah many teachers are being trained in the use of handguns to allow them to protect themselves and the kids.
Many airline pilots are currently armed with firearms in order to protect their airplanes and flyers. There are many thing that can be done to protect people, this discussion is about schools and the TSA is but one example of how masses of people can be protected. Notice since the TSA was implemented there have been NO terrorist attacks on airplanes and many weapons discovered by the TSA and some plots have been defused.
Teachers arming themselves ain't gonna work. If they carry, it's an absurd situation. If they keep the firearm in a secure location, it has to be so secure from students that they will never access the gun in time to protect.
Pushing for firearms in schools will ultimately result in the loss of gun rights in this country. It's the perception of being so over the top that all the people who were neutral about guns will shift to the 'anti gun' side.
This is not the same country it once was. Just look at the amateur socialist scum in the whitehouse- if that POS can win a second term against a bright, successful guy who preached economic common sense, imagine how the public will react to guns in the schools. They will see anyone in favor of it as dangerous, and eventually they will come for your guns.

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#41 Dec 29, 2012
DFL Carnage wrote:
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We are talking about school security. So the schools that Obama's kids attend have 10 armed security guards. Why is that?
It's because the armed guards WILL protect the kids.
YOU are very ignorant when you say the kids can't be protected. They certinaly can it just takes some simple planning.
In Utah many teachers are being trained in the use of handguns to allow them to protect themselves and the kids.
Many airline pilots are currently armed with firearms in order to protect their airplanes and flyers. There are many thing that can be done to protect people, this discussion is about schools and the TSA is but one example of how masses of people can be protected. Notice since the TSA was implemented there have been NO terrorist attacks on airplanes and many weapons discovered by the TSA and some plots have been defused.
If ignorance is bliss, you must be orgasmic. The type of protection you are talking about is NOT simple and the logistics bear this out. There is no point in going on about this, our country is about to go over the bogus "fiscal cliff" and you're talking about how Obaba's kids' schools have armed guards that YOU and I are PAYING for. Never mind, you'll never get it.

And the TSA?? Don't make me laugh. The TSA (Thousands Standing Around) is nothing more than the government's attempt to erode our civil liberties. Groping peoples' crotches in the name of safety protects NO ONE. There haven't been terrorist attacks on airplanes because the terrorists have moved on from that. They've won, you see, because the American public must now be groped in their private places before they're allowed to get on planes. For the terrorists, public humiliation by a country's own government in the name of safety is a win. But you and countless others don't get that. Sheeple. That's what you are, and you believe what you're being told because you have forgotten how to think and reason for yourselves.
What drugs was shooter on

Hamden, CT

#42 Dec 29, 2012
The t.v ads say those happy pill psychiatric drugs can cause suicidal thinking in children teens and young adults, WTF!?

Was this shooter on these pills ? They say he was mental, was he on those pills ?

“'never'”

Since: Mar 11

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#44 Dec 30, 2012
What drugs was shooter on wrote:
The t.v ads say those happy pill psychiatric drugs can cause suicidal thinking in children teens and young adults, WTF!?
Was this shooter on these pills ? They say he was mental, was he on those pills ?
I think its when you are changing dosages or coming off them. I'm not sure you give happy pills to someone who suffers Aspergers/Autism but I could be wrong. It must have been hell to be around that kid- and it must have been hell to be him. I have been around a few autistics, some of them are absolutely unbearable, just unbearable. You just want to choke them. I say that knowing it isn't their fault- but there is something about them I find so unbearable you just want to beat them until they act normal.

“'never'”

Since: Mar 11

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#45 Dec 30, 2012
What drugs was shooter on wrote:
The t.v ads say those happy pill psychiatric drugs can cause suicidal thinking in children teens and young adults, WTF!?
Was this shooter on these pills ? They say he was mental, was he on those pills ?
I think its when you are changing dosages or coming off them. I'm not sure you give happy pills to someone who suffers Aspergers/Autism but I could be wrong. It must have been hell to be around that kid- and it must have been hell to be him. I have been around a few autistics, some of them are absolutely unbearable, just unbearable. You just want to choke them. I say that knowing it isn't their fault- but there is something about them I find so unbearable you just want to beat them until they act normal.

sheesh I keep losing comments... I type out a post, hit the 'post comment' button, and the comment is lost, and suddenly I'm no longer signed in. WTF? Does this happen to anyone else? It's a pain in the azz.

“'never'”

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#46 Dec 30, 2012
ok now my post does show, after hitting 'refresh' 3 times, and signing out in back in.
American Gun Disease

Winnipeg, Canada

#49 Dec 30, 2012
Citizen44 wrote:
ok now my post does show, after hitting 'refresh' 3 times, and signing out in back in.
Its no loss anyway

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