Double dipping of retired principal r...

Double dipping of retired principal raises concern

There are 52 comments on the Connecticut Post story from Aug 28, 2009, titled Double dipping of retired principal raises concern. In it, Connecticut Post reports that:

What started out as a routine hiring turned contentious this week when the Board of Education took up whether to hire a former administrator for a part-time position.

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overtaxed1

United States

#1 Aug 28, 2009
The public service pension funds should be done away with they are a thing of the past tax payers can not afford it any more if we stopped this for fire, police,teachers and public office are property taxes along with income taxes would be cut in half !!!!
John

Niantic, CT

#2 Aug 28, 2009
Jim Orazietti's statement is an example of blatant age-discrimination - this is illegal Jim. You cannot discriminate on the basis of age.
Jim goes so far as to suggest brining in an un-qualifyed younger person and training them for the job!
Thankfully, you can't do that, it's completely illegal. You are discriminating against this clearly qualifyed person based only on age!
Board member Orazietti must resign - he favors gross discrimination!
Joe Ganim

Cheshire, CT

#3 Aug 28, 2009
Yes but he also has to clean the Bathrooms..............
The key of G

Ronkonkoma, NY

#5 Aug 29, 2009
I don't need a college degreee just show me what to do for $27.00
Wee Man

Hopatcong, NJ

#6 Aug 29, 2009
You don't need to be a "rocket scientist" to be a job coach.
Give the kids coming out of college a job.
SteveM

Meriden, CT

#7 Aug 29, 2009
I am a retired teacher (37 years teaching.) When I was in the classroom I used to see many other retired teachers take part time positions during the year; I believe that the amount they could make was limited because of pension restrictions.

However, by reading the other comments, one can see that this practice can be be misread when a retired principal is hired, causing a public relations nightmare. Many principals take full time positions in other states after they retire. Perhaps that should apply to part time jobs, too.
Nobama

United States

#8 Aug 29, 2009
Baldwin Plaza will play host to a 9/11 Memorial and “Bridgeport Tea Party” on Friday September 11th starting at 11:30am. The names of all Connecticut residents who were victims on that tragic day will be read. We will remember the events of September 11th 2001 through songs, guest speakers, and prayer.

Immediately following the 9/11 memorial “The Bridgeport Tea Party” will kick off. Area business leaders, everyday citizens, and other patriots from all walks of life and all over the country will be on hand to share their thoughts on such issues as universal health care, cap and trade and other issues which affect our entire country.

All are welcome to attend. Political affiliation is not what is important; Democracy is what is important.
Seriously now

Bedford, TX

#9 Aug 29, 2009
Show me a college kid that only wants or needs a part time job though. if he can do the job, who cares, get over it.
Shut Up

Plymouth, MA

#10 Aug 29, 2009
No, Jim is just not one for the Good Ol' Boy Network.
I am sick of greedy people(especially in the B.O.E.) making all their friends and families rich, sponging off taxpayers backs.
This town needs more people like Jim Orazietti.
None of these bums would have the 6-figure plus incomes they have if they were in the private sector.
Enough already!!!
John wrote:
Jim Orazietti's statement is an example of blatant age-discrimination - this is illegal Jim. You cannot discriminate on the basis of age.

Jim goes so far as to suggest brining in an un-qualifyed younger person and training them for the job!
Thankfully, you can't do that, it's completely illegal. You are discriminating against this clearly qualifyed person based only on age!
Board member Orazietti must resign - he favors gross discrimination!
shelton resident 2

United States

#12 Aug 29, 2009
Jim is just looking for votes from the public. He is not sincere.
sheltonsam

Waterbury, CT

#13 Aug 29, 2009
stick to selling dr*** with your brothers jim....money must be good look at the 2 bars
Just Another Skeptic

United States

#14 Aug 29, 2009
The only thing missing in this job description "Job Coach" is that it's a no-show position. I agree 100%, that a recent college grad. should be given the opportunity that this position offers over the well paid pensioner. If he wants to continue working.....Let him try his hand at some volunteer work.....Yeah that's the ticket, let him train the college grad for a couple of months & then go play golf with your 6 figure pension.
1ADAM12

Hilton Head Island, SC

#15 Aug 29, 2009
Double Dipping, that's when a person collects two pensions from a single municipality, it has nothing too do with having a part-time job after retiring.

Lets hire someone out of college with no expierence and give them top pay?

Jim's idea sounds like the hirimg process used by all of the CT police departments, expierence, we don't want people with expierence just give the rook a gun.

Which one of Jim's relative just got out of college?

Hire based on expierence not age.
career educator

Hartford, CT

#16 Aug 29, 2009
If you'd like to see this phenomenom in full blown action, just check out the Bridgeport school system.........Retirement for many administrators is a joke-they are soon back as "interim this or that" or some specially created position.... abd not at $27 an hour, either....
WorkerBee

United States

#17 Aug 29, 2009
There's plenty of that "double dipping" going on in the City of Shelton. People retire one week, and show up the following week as a part-time employee or work "per diem". Or they retire and their position never gets filled because the job is done by someone else who is already there. There is so much garbage going on there, taxpayers don't care because their mill rate is low and they want to keep it that way, but it's the employees who suffer because they can't get ahead. Also, it's not what you know to get a part-time position with the City, it's who you are related to!
Vigilante

AOL

#18 Aug 29, 2009
Enough of the double dipping at ALL levels. This smacks of cronyism, nepotism, and doing so perpetuates this. Jobs are hard enough to come by so why is a retired principal going back to work? If he didn't want to retire he shouldn't have done so.
There should be provisions against this in any grant and provisions against this in retirement.
If you take Social Security at 62, any income you make over $13000 requires giving back $1 for every $2 earned until age 66. This thinking should also apply in cases like this.
karen

New Rochelle, NY

#19 Aug 29, 2009
WHat in the world is wrong with looking for work, part time or full, after one has retired with a pension that was earned? If the guy had applied for a position gathering shopping carts at a local grocery, no one would think twice about it. Just because he applies for work in a field in which he is trained and has experience is no reason to take shots at him or the person who reccomends him. Geesh!
Lauretti D Block

United States

#21 Aug 29, 2009
It's about time someone has shown the light on the dark,little inside jobs in the Shelton school system.Administraition educators have been double dipping for years here after receiving fat pensions and full medical bennies.58 % of our taxes go to education in this town-why?Good job by Orazietti.Enough of these administrators sucking money from cities all across the country!!!!Education starts at home and then by teachers.It is now a cash cow because if you disagree,your labeled anti education/anti kid,which all these liberals rally behind.
shelton

United States

#22 Aug 29, 2009
this formar admin, still has to be trained, just how smart do you have to be to teach/train handicap kids. Jim is the man watch all the teachers come up with new requirerments now. Age discrimination you must be joking right. Jim for Mayor this guys alright a true public servent
Bone Head

Merrimack, NH

#23 Aug 29, 2009
If you were at te meeting that night you would have heard that the only requirement was a teaching certificate, although Tim kept piling it on. This was another example of Tim and Arlene taking care of one of many cronies. There are plenty of qualified kids that are not stuck in the way they did things for 37 years. If what these past admins were doing is so great then why are the test scores still lower than Trumbull's?
John wrote:
Jim Orazietti's statement is an example of blatant age-discrimination - this is illegal Jim. You cannot discriminate on the basis of age.
Jim goes so far as to suggest brining in an un-qualifyed younger person and training them for the job!
Thankfully, you can't do that, it's completely illegal. You are discriminating against this clearly qualifyed person based only on age!
Board member Orazietti must resign - he favors gross discrimination!

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