Wrongful death suit against Scott Peterson dropped

A wrongful death lawsuit against convicted killer Scott Peterson over the death of his pregnant wife has been dropped. Full Story
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That is Sick

Turlock, CA

#5 May 10, 2009
The fact that you think that way (that it will be a great day when someone dies) is just sick. No, I don't know Scott, even though I lived five minutes from him. But I still would never say something like that.
Bob

Middletown, CT

#6 May 10, 2009
The lawyer probably figured they weren't ever going to see any money out of a guy sitting on death row, so his cut of nothing would be nothing, and he didn't want to bother with the case.
Mike

Finksburg, MD

#7 May 10, 2009
That is Sick wrote:
The fact that you think that way (that it will be a great day when someone dies) is just sick. No, I don't know Scott, even though I lived five minutes from him. But I still would never say something like that.
Oh boo hoo. Sounds like another one of Scott Petersons fan's are falling at his feet ready to defend his honor. I hope he goes really slow. hahaha
Elp Girl

El Paso, TX

#8 May 10, 2009
I really hope they get a confession out of him before he is put to death. Could you imagine how awful it would be if the guy really didnt do it?

Its just hard to see someone die for a crime when there was no eye witness. Besides death sentence is an easy-out for those why are guilty. I say MAKE THEM SUFFER AND LIVE A LONG MISERABLE LIFE BEHIND BARS.

Criminals serving a life sentence want to die-why let them? Work their fingers to the bone--isolate them and REALLY make them serve the time they were sentenced to.
Sis

Enterprise, AL

#9 May 11, 2009
God will be the only one that can give this piece of scum what he has coming. He can lie to the world but...
toto

Franklin, TN

#11 May 12, 2009
I have been saying for over a year that Rocha would not go threw with the case because she would not want Scott to have a forum to present other theories of other suspects involved. Often a trial is also an investigative tool. People who would not otherdwise testify talk under oath.
Noob

Germany

#12 Oct 29, 2010
Point is: Scott & the Petersons had nothing to loose at the civil trial but it COULD have been a forum to present new evidence to exonerate him on the murders (on the "civil" side of it of course - which in turn would have helped his appeal on the criminal trial).
The way the dropping of a 25 million dollar law suit was swept silently under the rug (while the case was spread all over the media) is telling.
Looks like the Rochas had too much to loose to follow through with it. Maybe they were afraid the law suit would help Scott's appeal.
I wonder if it made them start thinking if maybe (just maybe) the wrong person got convicted in the criminal trial. It must be a disturbing thought for them and I wish them nothing but peace after the loss of Laci & Conner but those doubts would eat me up.
Ludichris

Carmel, CA

#13 Nov 1, 2010
Noob wrote:
Point is: Scott & the Petersons had nothing to loose at the civil trial but it COULD have been a forum to present new evidence to exonerate him on the murders (on the "civil" side of it of course - which in turn would have helped his appeal on the criminal trial).
The way the dropping of a 25 million dollar law suit was swept silently under the rug (while the case was spread all over the media) is telling.
Looks like the Rochas had too much to loose to follow through with it. Maybe they were afraid the law suit would help Scott's appeal.
I wonder if it made them start thinking if maybe (just maybe) the wrong person got convicted in the criminal trial. It must be a disturbing thought for them and I wish them nothing but peace after the loss of Laci & Conner but those doubts would eat me up.
Scott Peterson killed his pregnant wife. Or maybe the same person who killed Nicole Brown Simpson and all of the other unsolved murders in the USA is responsible?!
Get real. The loser is a murderer and is going to spend the rest of his remaining life behind bars. THANK GOD!
MRS AVA

Moore, SC

#14 Nov 1, 2010
Ludichris wrote:
<quoted text>
Scott Peterson killed his pregnant wife. Or maybe the same person who killed Nicole Brown Simpson and all of the other unsolved murders in the USA is responsible?!
Get real. The loser is a murderer and is going to spend the rest of his remaining life behind bars. THANK GOD!
He is one evil person to be able to kill his wife and his own baby.

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#15 Nov 1, 2010
Bob wrote:
The lawyer probably figured they weren't ever going to see any money out of a guy sitting on death row, so his cut of nothing would be nothing, and he didn't want to bother with the case.
Very true, my true friend.
Noob

Germany

#16 Nov 2, 2010
America Gentleman Samuel wrote:
<quoted text>
Very true, my true friend.
Actually: no.

It wasn't about getting this money in one huge check.
It was about prohibiting Scott to make money out of this story himself, like writing a book as so many others did.
If this lawsuit would have taken place and if the Rochas would have one, every time Scott made one penny above his minimum income (which would have been established by the court, too) he would have to give it to the Rochas.
If the Rochas are sure Scott did it and they can win another trial, so why didn't the proceed?
Answer: either they aren't sure Scott is the killer and/or that they could win the trial because new evidence could have been introduced.
Anyone actually read all the court transcripts of the criminal trial? They smell fishy!
No dobt: the crime was heinous and the person who did it should be punished. Just make sure you got the right person, otherwise a killer is still on the loose. For me, it's a disturbing thought that ANYONE can be convicted on the evidence available. You better never have a relationship, marry or an affair: if anything happens to your loved one, this automatically makes you the suspect and convict!
Ludichris

Carmel, CA

#17 Nov 2, 2010
Noob wrote:
<quoted text>
Actually: no.
It wasn't about getting this money in one huge check.
It was about prohibiting Scott to make money out of this story himself, like writing a book as so many others did.
If this lawsuit would have taken place and if the Rochas would have one, every time Scott made one penny above his minimum income (which would have been established by the court, too) he would have to give it to the Rochas.
If the Rochas are sure Scott did it and they can win another trial, so why didn't the proceed?
Answer: either they aren't sure Scott is the killer and/or that they could win the trial because new evidence could have been introduced.
Anyone actually read all the court transcripts of the criminal trial? They smell fishy!
No dobt: the crime was heinous and the person who did it should be punished. Just make sure you got the right person, otherwise a killer is still on the loose. For me, it's a disturbing thought that ANYONE can be convicted on the evidence available. You better never have a relationship, marry or an affair: if anything happens to your loved one, this automatically makes you the suspect and convict!
What are you on?
I watched the whole trial on Court TV, never missed a beat and recorded it to watch after work all day every day. I live in California and know the areas where the body was dumped and found.
Even the defense attorney pundits watching thought Scott had done it! The only people who think he is innocent are some members of his family and idiot women sending him love letters in prison. But there will always be people out there like yourself that will never believe people are capable of pure evil unless they can watch it on a video blow by blow, and even then you would come up with a stupid explanation to absolve the moron.
People kill. And as you live in Germany, you of all people should know how good people are capable of extraordinarily evil deeds throughout history. If Scott was an ugly dude perhaps he would have less sympathy.
The evidence that convicted him was solid. He is a sociopath who killed his pregnant wife. Stop wasting your time with sympathy for this looser and feel sympathetic to people who REALLY have had to endure false convictions in prison and those executed who REALLY were innocent.
Noob

Germany

#18 Nov 3, 2010
Ludichris wrote:
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I watched the whole trial on Court TV, never missed a beat and recorded it to watch after work all day every day.
I read all the trial records which I find better than media propaganda & scenes taken out of context by Court TV.
Ludichris wrote:
<quoted text>
Even the defense attorney pundits watching thought Scott had done it!
Who said this?
Ludichris wrote:
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The only people who think he is innocent are ... members of his family & idiot women ... people out there ... that will never believe people are capable of pure evil ...
I'm neither a family member nor do I send Scott "love letters" & I believe mankind capable of crimes such as murder, regardless if I've seen it on TV or not. Chance is, I won't see it on TV because I don't like to be manipulated by it. There are people out there who don't fit your stereotyped boxes.
Ludichris wrote:
<quoted text>And as you live in Germany, you of all people should know ...
You're jumping to quite a few conclusions because you see my post as being from Germany.
Have you noticed that anyone here can choose their location themselves? Germany is not necessarily where I am.
Furthermore, nobody living in Germany today is really any closer to the evils of WW2 than anybody anywhere else on the world.
It's been more than 50 years. For everybody. There is not much left to be seen. In addition, the major concentrations weren't even in Germany but were built in Poland.
Ludichris wrote:
<quoted text>
If Scott was an ugly dude perhaps he would have less sympathy.
The evidence that convicted him was solid. He is a sociopath who killed his pregnant wife. Stop wasting your time with sympathy for this looser and feel sympathetic to people who REALLY have had to endure false convictions in prison and those executed who REALLY were innocent.
I don't care for Scott looks, I don't even care for people calling him a sociopath and not even for people saying he isn't.
Since none of us is a psychologist w/ access to him, all this means nothing. I care about facts and evidence.
It's not about being sympathetic, it's about the US legal system.
First of all, the principle "in dubio pro reo" got throughly undermined in his case. The media like Court TV had the mob already whipped up against Scott before the bodies where recovered.
Blackstone's formulation (better that ten guilty persons escape than that one innocent suffer) a moral cornerstone of US criminal law, was completely ignored.
The jury was supposed to judge on evidence and facts, instead they succumbed to the media pressure.
There is not a single piece of hard evidence.
No blood, no bleach, nothing at all on the suggested crime scenes (house & warehouse).
You claim the evidence is solid, so please list examples for me.
There is no witness who had seen anything related to the crime.
There was only one witness repeating over and over about adultery and after 5 years we all know that Amber Frey really isn't a beacon of moral standards herself.
I don't claim Scott is innocent, I simply don't know it.
But from all I can read and all I have seen in the media, he neither got a fair trial nor was there enough evidence to convict him without "reasonable doubt".
And it scares me that this can happen as you admit yourself. And all these innocent wouldn't have been exonerated but for people outside rooting for them. So why shouldn't Scott have the right that people root for him, too?
So Nancy Grace decides on a hunch one is guilty and the lynch mob is happy to oblige and rallies for the front row seats at execution.
What happened to all these Christian standards? To liberty and freedom?
You're manipulated by (Court) TV and you don't even realize it.
Just think: what makes this crime so much more heinous than the other 20-30.000 killings per year?
What if the travesty of law happens to yourself one day?
What if there is still a killer on the loose?
Noob

Germany

#19 Nov 3, 2010
Just a example of how media influenced the public about Scott Peterson:

CNN LARRY KING LIVE
Aired February 13, 2003 - 21:00 ET

GRACE:
Ted Rowlands, out to you. A lot of rumors circulating tonight. New reports that will certainly at least light the fire under the police investigation whether they be true or not. Let me ask you, if you have any independent confirmation of these report, for instance, that Laci's blood has in fact been found in Scott Peterson's truck, and that his boat has been tested and shows no sign of saltwater whatsoever. Meaning it was never launched.

ROWLANDS: Right. I have no independent confirmation on those. Those are coming from the "Enquirer" which say tabloid. Typically, you wouldn't give that much notice, however the "Enquirer" has broken a few things in this story. So they do obviously have a source somewhere that is ringing true in some instances, but I'm not going to touch then "Enquirer" and at this point I can't do it because...

GRACE: Ted Rowland, if you don't know a horse, I suggest you look at its track record. So far they're the ones that have broken quite a few stories on this case that have turned out to be true, and if this is true, this is a powder keg waiting to go off.
...
MURPHY: Well, you can bet that the police are suspicious this guy did some cleaning up after he returned home and Laci was missing. I mean their have been reports that he mopped the kitchen floor even though the house clean her been there the day before. And she reportedly has told police that she cleaned the floor the day before. So maybe he's a real clean guy, I don't know, but he's mopped the floor. Now they want the vaccum cleaner. They clearly believe this is someone who was cleaning up after a messy crime scene. That's at least what it appears to be.

You know what, Nancy, briefly on the blood issue, I think there's no question there is important blood evidence in that car. You know why? Scott himself went on national television during his dog and pony show week and he said what? I wouldn't be surprised if they found my blood in the car because I've got bloody hands and I'm dripping all over the place.
...
http://edition.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0302/13/lk...

They make it sound as if in fact blood was found in the car/boat.
However, no such evidence was ever presented at trial.
No blood at the alleged crime scene. No bleach (for cleaning up the blood) at the alleged crime scenes. Just rumors during that show, rumors which led the people to believe that there would be actual evidence - which was never presented at court. But those rumors are actually the stuff people remember about the case, they don't remember that the evidence was never shown to them (because it doesn't exist).
Ludichris

Salinas, CA

#20 Nov 3, 2010
Well, actually I am a Psychiatrist, and even though I have never conducted an interview with Mr. P. I am qualified to identify a classic sociopathic/killer personality.
So let me address some of your charges.

There was no editing on Court TV during that trial, that is a ridiculous statement.
The case was live and every dreary minute, day after day was as it was in the courtroom.
I am not a Nancy Grace fan nor are millions of others in the US who also understand Peterson is guilty as charged.
The 12 jurors and the alternates did not pass their verdict based on Larry King, Nancy Grace or any other pundit. They heard the evidence, sifted through it piece by piece, and returned a verdict of GUILTY! Just because you do not like it, it does not make it any less so.
If you want to spend your life championing this killer, be my guest. However, there are more worthy cases throughout the US and Europe and I suggest you spend your time a little more wisely.
However, you seem to know "the truth" that the rest of us somehow could not, due no doubt to the mind controlling rays coming from the TV warping our poor little American gray plazma.
As for the American criminal system being on trial, please show me a country, including your own, that has the perfect justice system?
There are innocent people locked up in prison and guilty people roaming the streets all over the world.
Your diction and grammar give your European heritage away and your pure lack of insight into the American justice system draws me to that logical conclusion.
The only bleach, to the best of my knowledge was used on Scott Petersons hair.
This crime is no worse than all the other millions of murders across the world and the thousands more, going on at the exact moment that I am typing this letter.
You do not have blood at a crime scene unless someone is shot, stabbed or blugeoned to death.
They are not the only forms of terminating life.
I highly doubt I shall be unjustly accused of any crime involving the unfortunate dissapearance of a loved one. If I am, I shall contact you directly and you can run my "I am innocent.....somebody else did it" campaign. Because it is always somebody else.... is'nt it?
But I beg you, please do not make the Casey Anthony Trial your next vigil. You may end up in need of couselling/medication at the end of that televised trial too.
BUDDY BOY

Novato, CA

#21 Nov 3, 2010
Well, if he IS innocent, they better get on it. He's 632nd in line to get the needle at San Quentin. At the rate we're going, that means he'll be dead as early as 2140.
MRS AVA

Wellford, SC

#22 Nov 3, 2010
Ludichris wrote:
Well, actually I am a Psychiatrist, and even though I have never conducted an interview with Mr. P. I am qualified to identify a classic sociopathic/killer personality.
So let me address some of your charges.
There was no editing on Court TV during that trial, that is a ridiculous statement.
The case was live and every dreary minute, day after day was as it was in the courtroom.
I am not a Nancy Grace fan nor are millions of others in the US who also understand Peterson is guilty as charged.
The 12 jurors and the alternates did not pass their verdict based on Larry King, Nancy Grace or any other pundit. They heard the evidence, sifted through it piece by piece, and returned a verdict of GUILTY! Just because you do not like it, it does not make it any less so.
If you want to spend your life championing this killer, be my guest. However, there are more worthy cases throughout the US and Europe and I suggest you spend your time a little more wisely.
However, you seem to know "the truth" that the rest of us somehow could not, due no doubt to the mind controlling rays coming from the TV warping our poor little American gray plazma.
As for the American criminal system being on trial, please show me a country, including your own, that has the perfect justice system?
There are innocent people locked up in prison and guilty people roaming the streets all over the world.
Your diction and grammar give your European heritage away and your pure lack of insight into the American justice system draws me to that logical conclusion.
The only bleach, to the best of my knowledge was used on Scott Petersons hair.
This crime is no worse than all the other millions of murders across the world and the thousands more, going on at the exact moment that I am typing this letter.
You do not have blood at a crime scene unless someone is shot, stabbed or blugeoned to death.
They are not the only forms of terminating life.
I highly doubt I shall be unjustly accused of any crime involving the unfortunate dissapearance of a loved one. If I am, I shall contact you directly and you can run my "I am innocent.....somebody else did it" campaign. Because it is always somebody else.... is'nt it?
But I beg you, please do not make the Casey Anthony Trial your next vigil. You may end up in need of couselling/medication at the end of that televised trial too.
Excellent!

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#23 Nov 3, 2010
Excellent are what my comments are. Go in Peace and Praise the LORD, Amen.
Noob

Germany

#24 Nov 4, 2010
Ludichris wrote:
There was no editing on Court TV during that trial, that is a ridiculous statement.
CourtTV Canada continues to provide its trademark live trial coverage, focusing on North America’s most newsworthy and CONTROVERSIAL legal proceedings and delivering POWERFUL, real-life DRAMA as it opens the modern courtroom to public scrutiny
http://www.newswire.ca/en/releases/mmnr/court...
Judges BANNED cameras from two of the most sensational murder cases in the country - Scott Peterson... Robert Blake
http://books.google.com/books...
All the audience got was snippets and pieces with intensive post trial session "analysis"
http://cnettv.cnet.com/court-tv-talks-laci-ca...
Ludichris wrote:
They heard the evidence, sifted through it piece by piece, and returned a verdict of GUILTY!
So which is the evidence which convinced YOU?
Ludichris wrote:
You do not have blood at a crime scene unless someone is shot, stabbed or blugeoned to death.
I agree. But then tell me, just how did Laci & Conner die? Where did they die? Any death body leaves at least a corpse scent. Why didn't the dogs pick it up in the house, truck, warehouse or boat?
One of the facts the prosecution had to establish in order to be able to ask for death penalty was the premeditation of the murder.
IF Scott started planning to kill Laci & Conner BEFORE meeting Amber, why would he have an affair with her? He was clever enough to leave NO TRACE behind but to dumb to keep his pants on for another three weeks?
IF Scott started planning to kill Laci & Conner AFTER meeting Amber, why wouldn't he wait for a better opportunity which doesn't make him look so bad? Breaking up with Amber, wait another two months,...?
IF he had it all planned, why do it on Christmas, when media attention was bound to be sparked?
IF an argument between Scott & Laci escalated, it wasn't a planned murder, so no grounds for death penalty.
Further: IF Scott planned to dump the bodies into SF Bay from his boat, as prosecution states, than how can he be clever enough not to leave traces & scents of crime scene BUT be dumb enough to use a boat which is to small to safely dump the body. A boat, which he had just purchased (he could have bought a bigger to meet those needs!) and never used before. In an area, where he has never been before but knew to be shallow. In addition, he wasn't experienced in salt water boating. Nobody even believed his alibi (he actually went back to Berkley Marina to find witnesses) until the bodies were found on the shore of SF Bay. Conveniently, everybody seems to forget that a whole nation knew mere days after Laci's disappearance where Scott was that day. The bodies showing up where they did really means nothing in relation to Scott's guilt.
And just how do you explain that the two bodies where found within a day that close together? I totally different states of decomposition / maceration?
Remember Eva Hernandez? She was pregnant, too, and disappeared shortly before Laci with her 6 years old son. Only Eva's skeleton was ever found in SF Bay. No trace of her unborn and her son.
How did Conner's body manage to get over the rocks unscathed to the place (little flag in photo below) where he was found?
http://www.pwc-sii.com/Research/conner/pics/W...
Why did the extensive search in SF Bay in January/February never turn anything up but unrelated items?
I can't stop having doubts about this case when I still have all those questions, so please, explain it to me!
Ludichris wrote:
As for the American criminal system being on trial, please show me a country, including your own, that has the perfect justice system?
If something is flawed, shouldn't we all strive to make it better instead of claiming it's still better than elsewhere?
Noob

Germany

#25 Nov 4, 2010
Ludichris wrote:
There was no editing on Court TV during that trial, that is a ridiculous statement.
CourtTV Canada continues to provide its trademark live trial coverage, focusing on North America’s most newsworthy and CONTROVERSIAL legal proceedings and delivering POWERFUL, real-life DRAMA as it opens the modern courtroom to public scrutiny
http://www.newswire.ca/en/releases/mmnr/court...
Judges BANNED cameras from two of the most sensational murder cases in the country - Scott Peterson... Robert Blake
http://books.google.com/books...
All the audience got was snippets & pieces with intensive post trial session "analysis"

http://cnettv.cnet.com/court-tv-talks-laci-ca...
Ludichris wrote:
They heard the evidence, sifted through it piece by piece, and returned a verdict of GUILTY!
So which is the evidence which convinced YOU?
Ludichris wrote:
You do not have blood at a crime scene unless someone is shot, stabbed or blugeoned to death.
I agree. But then tell me, just how did Laci & Conner die? Where did they die? Any death body leaves at least a corpse scent. Why didn't the dogs pick it up in the house, truck, warehouse or boat?

One of the facts the prosecution had to establish in order to be able to ask for death penalty was the premeditation of the murder.
IF Scott started planning to kill Laci & Conner BEFORE meeting Amber, why would he have an affair with her? He was clever enough to leave NO TRACE behind but too dumb to keep his pants on for another three weeks?
IF Scott started planning to kill Laci & Conner AFTER meeting Amber, why wouldn't he wait for a better opportunity which doesn't make him look so bad? Breaking up with Amber, wait another two months,...?
IF he had it all planned, why do it on Christmas, when media attention was bound to be sparked?
IF an argument between Scott & Laci escalated, it wasn't a planned murder, so no grounds for death penalty.

Further: IF Scott planned to dump the bodies into SF Bay from his boat, as prosecution states, than how can he be clever enough not to leave traces & scents of crime scene BUT be dumb enough to use a boat which is to small to safely dump the body. A boat, which he had just purchased (he could have bought a bigger to meet those needs!) and never used before. In an area where he has never been before but knew to be shallow. In addition, he wasn't experienced in salt water boating. Nobody even believed his alibi (he actually went back to Berkley Marina to find witnesses) until the bodies were found on the shore of SF Bay. Conveniently, everybody seems to forget that a whole nation knew mere days after Laci's disappearance where Scott claimed he was that day. The bodies showing up where they did really means nothing in relation to Scott's guilt.

How do you explain that the two bodies where found within a day that close together? I totally different states of decomposition / maceration?
Remember Eva Hernandez? She was pregnant & disappeared shortly before Laci with her 6 years old son. Only Eva's skeleton was ever found in SF Bay. No trace of her unborn and her son.
How did Conner's body manage to get over the rocks unscathed to the place (little flag in photo below) where he was found?
http://www.pwc-sii.com/Research/conner/pics/W...

Why did the extensive search in SF Bay in January/February never turn anything up but unrelated items?
I can't stop having doubts about this case when I still have all those questions, so please, explain it to me!
Ludichris wrote:
As for the American criminal system being on trial, please show me a country, including your own, that has the perfect justice system?
If something is flawed, shouldn't we all strive to make it better instead of claiming it's still better than elsewhere?

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