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Crowd rips committee over proposed tax hike

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Lodi, NJ

#1 May 8, 2013
BRIDGEPORT -- It was the kind of budget hearing where one audience member bellowed angrily at city councilmen, another demanded they bark like dogs, a third brandished a snow shovel in frustration -- and none were out of line.

About 60 people attended Tuesday's meeting of the council's Budget and Appropriations Committee to make it crystal clear they are fed up and will not tolerate another tax hike by the city's Democratic administration.

"Do you realize what you have done to us? Your people are broken," testified Bill Pelletier, whose property taxes for his home in the city's Black Rock neighborhood have ballooned from $6,000 to $36,000 in 18 years. "You want more. There is no more ... Leave this meeting tonight and hand this budget back to (Mayor) Bill Finch."

For the past five weeks, the committee has met almost daily to scrutinize Finch's proposed $519.9 million budget, which would increase residential taxes by an average of $391 and commercial properties by an average of $981.

Now, it's crunch time.

By statute, the full council must pass a 2013-14 budget by next Tuesday. The committee is slated to meet every night this week for further deliberations and vote Saturday.

But Tuesday's meeting was the final public hearing. As has been the case, the highly taxed Black Rock neighborhood was well-represented.

Dressed for the spring weather in a T-shirt, sandals and shorts, Todd Zavorskas brought his snow shovel to show his disgust with his $9,400 tax bill and the week it took the Finch administration to cleanup from February's blizzard.

"I don't want to live in Bridgeport anymore, but I can't sell my house," Zavorskas said. "I'm stuck."

Many others told a similar story -- either they can't unload their properties because of the tax burden or prospective buyers simply pass by Bridgeport entirely.

Cruzmilda Maldonado worked hard to beautify her house at 2578 Fairfield Ave. She even received a city citation.

"If I have to pay another $500 to $1,000 a year ... you can have it back," Maldonado said.

Some in the crowd said the administration can't expect them to pay more after last year's average $224 tax increase.

"Last year, we compromised. This year, there's no compromise," said Helen Olga Losak of the East Side.

The crowd also targeted the 2 percent raises that dozens of non-union city employees, including Finch, received last July to coincide with a pay increase for unionized supervisors.

John Marshall Lee, a self-designated fiscal watchdog who frequently attends council meetings, told the budget committee, "I want you to bark because we need watchdogs ... You've been silent too long."

Others reminded council members they -- not Finch -- are up for re-election in November.

"Listen to the taxpayers, even if it means breaking party lines with the mayor," said ex-Democratic state Sen. Ernie Newton who, despite being tainted by political scandal, still has clout on the East Side.

Rick Torres, a Black Rock businessman and periodic Republican mayoral candidate, received a standing ovation when he yelled angrily at the council: "Every single one of you is now on trial. This is a trial ... We can't pay any more. Too many people are suffering. You're doing it. Stop it."

As the hearing adjourned, Councilman Susan Brannelly, D-130 -- a budget committee co-chair who represents Black Rock -- assured the audience: "Your words have not fallen on deaf ears."

A few minutes later, the committee was back at work sifting through the budget.

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#2 May 8, 2013
High taxes is another reason to move out of Bridgeport.

“'never'”

Since: Mar 11

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#3 May 9, 2013
Democrats would see nothing wrong with raising someone's taxes from 6000 to 36000 in a couple of decades. You'll pay your 'fair share' or you're off to jail, thats all. Eventually, after they have destroyed the life of nearly every american, they will wear out their welcome.
BPT

Middlebury, CT

#4 May 9, 2013
amazing
and yet
quite a few people contribute NOTHING, much less than their "fair share". whats the deal with the dems? they use catch phrases and excuses but not ANY common sense.
and still
more than half of you will go out and pull the democratic lever AGAIN next election..........who's fault is that?
No you are

Astoria, NY

#5 May 9, 2013
BPT wrote:
amazing
and yet
quite a few people contribute NOTHING, much less than their "fair share". whats the deal with the dems? they use catch phrases and excuses but not ANY common sense.
and still
more than half of you will go out and pull the democratic lever AGAIN next election..........who's fault is that?
For me, it;s the republicans stand on social issues. Theres a lot I disagree with, like what Finch & co is trying to pull, it's bullshyt. But when I start hearing shyt like tranvaginal ultrasound, legitimate rape, being defined as a taker because I voted for Obama etc. theres no way in hell I could have voted repub. The only one I could imagine voting for is Christie esp. now that he's losing the weight and wouldn't die in the WH.

What do you think of their new plan for over time pay?

“'never'”

Since: Mar 11

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#6 May 9, 2013
No you are wrote:
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For me, it;s the republicans stand on social issues. Theres a lot I disagree with, like what Finch & co is trying to pull, it's bullshyt. But when I start hearing shyt like tranvaginal ultrasound, legitimate rape, being defined as a taker because I voted for Obama etc. theres no way in hell I could have voted repub. The only one I could imagine voting for is Christie esp. now that he's losing the weight and wouldn't die in the WH.
What do you think of their new plan for over time pay?
So you're focusing on only the dumbest utterances of a large political party- while ignoring the fact that just as many dumb comments come from the democrats, although the major networks will never cover that. You can find incredibly ignorant comments from any group on the planet. The mainstream media is just in the habit of constantly doing a 'gothcha' type thing on republicans.

Do you really believe it's an official position of the GOP that some rape is 'legitimate'?

The democrats in bridgeport have done the worst job it is humanly possible to do- but you will vote for them because some repub from the midwest is stuck in the 1950's?
BPT

Middlebury, CT

#7 May 9, 2013
No you are wrote:
<quoted text>
For me, it;s the republicans stand on social issues. Theres a lot I disagree with, like what Finch & co is trying to pull, it's bullshyt. But when I start hearing shyt like tranvaginal ultrasound, legitimate rape, being defined as a taker because I voted for Obama etc. theres no way in hell I could have voted repub. The only one I could imagine voting for is Christie esp. now that he's losing the weight and wouldn't die in the WH.
What do you think of their new plan for over time pay?
what is their plan for over time pay? have not heard or read about it.
don't get me wrong i not a republican either, they are out of touch with some of todays issues.
however
the dems are out of control with the insane spending and givin the store away with entitelments, makes me feel somtimes that we are saps for going to work every day.........
No you are

Astoria, NY

#8 May 9, 2013
Citizen44 wrote:
<quoted text>
So you're focusing on only the dumbest utterances of a large political party- while ignoring the fact that just as many dumb comments come from the democrats, although the major networks will never cover that. You can find incredibly ignorant comments from any group on the planet. The mainstream media is just in the habit of constantly doing a 'gothcha' type thing on republicans.
Do you really believe it's an official position of the GOP that some rape is 'legitimate'?
The democrats in bridgeport have done the worst job it is humanly possible to do- but you will vote for them because some repub from the midwest is stuck in the 1950's?
No, not just on that, but it did seem to be the general theme of the party. The party that itself calls them the party of stupid. Romney's whole campaign was stuck in the 50's.

I don't vote for anyone in Bridgeport, I live in Fairfield. Registered as a independent.

What do you think of the repub over time pay bill that was just passed?
No you are

Astoria, NY

#9 May 9, 2013
BPT wrote:
<quoted text>what is their plan for over time pay? have not heard or read about it.
don't get me wrong i not a republican either, they are out of touch with some of todays issues.
however
the dems are out of control with the insane spending and givin the store away with entitelments, makes me feel somtimes that we are saps for going to work every day.........
Instead of paying overtime they want to give the option of accruing time off. Time off that you are not guaranteed to be able to take off.

Spending does need to be controled however the headlines of Dow closes above 15,000, lowest unempolyment rate in four years and the defict has dropped. Something good is going on, but all you hear from the repub is how bad it all is, yet if Romney was in the WH they would say the exact opposite.
No you are

Astoria, NY

#10 May 9, 2013
BPT wrote:
<quoted text>what is their plan for over time pay? have not heard or read about it.
don't get me wrong i not a republican either, they are out of touch with some of todays issues.
however
the dems are out of control with the insane spending and givin the store away with entitelments, makes me feel somtimes that we are saps for going to work every day.........
http://news.yahoo.com/house-approves-bill-cha...

“'never'”

Since: Mar 11

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#11 May 9, 2013
No you are wrote:
<quoted text>
No, not just on that, but it did seem to be the general theme of the party. The party that itself calls them the party of stupid. Romney's whole campaign was stuck in the 50's.
I don't vote for anyone in Bridgeport, I live in Fairfield. Registered as a independent.
What do you think of the repub over time pay bill that was just passed?
The general theme of the party is to be stupid, and Romney is 'stuck in the 50's'? Sorry, but I'm going to make better use of my time than to try to change your mind. I guess it's crippling debt, unemployment, and punishment of productive people, for the benefit of the loafing class. It's hopeless.
No you are

Astoria, NY

#12 May 9, 2013
Citizen44 wrote:
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The general theme of the party is to be stupid, and Romney is 'stuck in the 50's'? Sorry, but I'm going to make better use of my time than to try to change your mind. I guess it's crippling debt, unemployment, and punishment of productive people, for the benefit of the loafing class. It's hopeless.
They called themselves the party of stupid, not me. Binders full of women, he let women leave early to make dinner for the family. What about the men, men these day play a much larger role in the family. Of Course not in the Romney house, barefoot and pregnant is their motto.

Unemployment is at the lowest rate in 4/5 years, the deficit is down 32%, the dow is breaking records.

No don't waste your time and I won't waste mine. Although I did do myself a disservice by saying never republican, because I always try to be open minded and do the research.

How is trying to take away overtime pay helping the people? It's not, it's helping the business and screw the people .

Here: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/gov-...

You have always encouraged me to read beyond the mainstream and read the Drudge, I suggest you also go out of your comfort zone and you'll see it's not as dire as the repub and the tea partiers want you to think.
Taxpayer2

Newtown, CT

#13 May 9, 2013
No you are wrote:
<quoted text>
They called themselves the party of stupid, not me. Binders full of women, he let women leave early to make dinner for the family. What about the men, men these day play a much larger role in the family. Of Course not in the Romney house, barefoot and pregnant is their motto.
Unemployment is at the lowest rate in 4/5 years, the deficit is down 32%, the dow is breaking records.
No don't waste your time and I won't waste mine. Although I did do myself a disservice by saying never republican, because I always try to be open minded and do the research.
How is trying to take away overtime pay helping the people? It's not, it's helping the business and screw the people .
Here: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/gov-...
You have always encouraged me to read beyond the mainstream and read the Drudge, I suggest you also go out of your comfort zone and you'll see it's not as dire as the repub and the tea partiers want you to think.
The breath and depth of your financial iganorance is breat taking.The number of EMPLOYED people is the lowest % since Jimmy Carter. Reduction in NEW unemployment claims does not equal highering at the other end..Over 5o million Americans are on Food Stamps. If you own (exclusivly)DOW 30 stocks and have a portfolio over $1,500,000.00 you are ahead for the last four years. If not: inflation,taxes,fee's and downsizing of brands(food) have reduced your net worth by approx18 to 30%.The national DEBT has DOUBLED in the last four years and is increasing every day.A dip in the monthly loss (deficit) is not growth it is merly a slowing of the loss.You sure as heck are intitled to your opinion but not facts that any 8th grader could dispute from the morning newspaper. At least TRY to pretend..
BPT

Middlebury, CT

#14 May 9, 2013
No you are wrote:
<quoted text>
Instead of paying overtime they want to give the option of accruing time off. Time off that you are not guaranteed to be able to take off.
Spending does need to be controled however the headlines of Dow closes above 15,000, lowest unempolyment rate in four years and the defict has dropped. Something good is going on, but all you hear from the repub is how bad it all is, yet if Romney was in the WH they would say the exact opposite.
that does not make sense.
employment figures are skewered, if a person GIVES UP and stops looking for a job they are removed from the ranks of the unemployed. that does not make sense either, but thats the way the system has always been.
the stock market is a delicate balance. when someone put out the rumor that there was an explosion at the white house the stock market lost BILLIONS, our economy can be affected by RUMOR??!!!
what you think about benghazi?
No you are

Astoria, NY

#16 May 9, 2013
BPT wrote:
<quoted text>that does not make sense.
employment figures are skewered, if a person GIVES UP and stops looking for a job they are removed from the ranks of the unemployed. that does not make sense either, but thats the way the system has always been.
the stock market is a delicate balance. when someone put out the rumor that there was an explosion at the white house the stock market lost BILLIONS, our economy can be affected by RUMOR??!!!
what you think about benghazi?
This may be mean, but for the people who gave up, that's on them. There are jobs out there, whether or not it's what they want, they are there. I took a shit job where I cried everyday on my way to work for two years, but at least I was working and not collecting.

True about the stock market, can you imagine what things would be like if we had invested SS in the stock market like Bush had wanted to?

Benghazi-Ugh I don't know what to think. From what I can tell there were definite screw ups and lies told. Why say it was the video when it was terrorism. That was stupid. Did those lies contribute to the deaths, I don't think so. AS far as I can tell the hearing yesterday didn't tells us anything new.
No you are

Astoria, NY

#17 May 9, 2013
Taxpayer2 wrote:
<quoted text>The breath and depth of your financial iganorance is breat taking.The number of EMPLOYED people is the lowest % since Jimmy Carter. Reduction in NEW unemployment claims does not equal highering at the other end..Over 5o million Americans are on Food Stamps. If you own (exclusivly)DOW 30 stocks and have a portfolio over $1,500,000.00 you are ahead for the last four years. If not: inflation,taxes,fee's and downsizing of brands(food) have reduced your net worth by approx18 to 30%.The national DEBT has DOUBLED in the last four years and is increasing every day.A dip in the monthly loss (deficit) is not growth it is merly a slowing of the loss.You sure as heck are intitled to your opinion but not facts that any 8th grader could dispute from the morning newspaper. At least TRY to pretend..
Never claimed to know it all, in fact if you are on here a lot you would see I have asked where to get info so I am more informed.

So all the things I listed are bad things? Unemployment going down is worse than losing 700,000/800,000 jobs a month?

The dow doing well is worse than the market crashing? My 401 going up instead of down is bad? My higher pay check is bad? The fact that I see filled restaurants on any given night is bad? The people who are now spending again is a bad thing? The housing market rebounding is bad?

Things aren't perfect and there is still a ways to go, but things are still better then when Bush left. Maybe McCain could have done a better job, but since his poor judgement chose Sarah Palin, I doubt it.
BPT

Middlebury, CT

#18 May 9, 2013
No you are wrote:
<quoted text>
This may be mean, but for the people who gave up, that's on them. There are jobs out there, whether or not it's what they want, they are there. I took a shit job where I cried everyday on my way to work for two years, but at least I was working and not collecting.
True about the stock market, can you imagine what things would be like if we had invested SS in the stock market like Bush had wanted to?
Benghazi-Ugh I don't know what to think. From what I can tell there were definite screw ups and lies told. Why say it was the video when it was terrorism. That was stupid. Did those lies contribute to the deaths, I don't think so. AS far as I can tell the hearing yesterday didn't tells us anything new.
they lied because of the up and coming election. obama had said al-queda was dead when HE got binladen, wrong! he would have looked foolish. the people were dead before they told the lies. life is easier when you tell the truth, however our president believes his own propaganda. hopefully our president will never have to make a military choice, he has no balls. terrorists are gonna cross his "red line" all day long, he'll do NOTHING.

the unemployed numbers are a mess. good for you, finding work. i'm the same way, before i quit a job i had another one, ready to go.but after 40 plus years of working though, and seeing all the free stuff the gov't is now giving away, i'm wondering if i'm a sap? keep an open mind to things and don't believe everything the media/ gov't tells you. these were the same people who told us how big we were winning in vietnam.
Taxpayer2

Newtown, CT

#19 May 9, 2013
I'll stick to my initial judgement as to your financial ignorance. If I want DNC talking points I can open their e-Mails..If you think things are going well have at it..But please remember someone tried to tell you how wrong you were. It will help when you have to explain to your family what just happened in the future...But then again I can see you will just blame Bush and continue to be a sheeple..have a good day..Hope you can afford Fairfield County someday on your hourly rate...
No you are

Astoria, NY

#20 May 9, 2013
Taxpayer2 wrote:
I'll stick to my initial judgement as to your financial ignorance. If I want DNC talking points I can open their e-Mails..If you think things are going well have at it..But please remember someone tried to tell you how wrong you were. It will help when you have to explain to your family what just happened in the future...But then again I can see you will just blame Bush and continue to be a sheeple..have a good day..Hope you can afford Fairfield County someday on your hourly rate...
So you chose not to answer any of my questions, hmmm okay, fine.

Oh I've owned my own home in Fairfield for 18 years. You?
Taxpayer2

Newtown, CT

#21 May 9, 2013
Grew up there..Trumbull for 32 yrs now and the two summer places in New Hamp and winterhaven in Fla. Glad to see the RTM only gave you a 2.4 increase for next year...Been fun talking but only reason I was even here is that various city topix boards nationwide are tracked for pos vs neg on economy..They are a contra indicator(you can look it up) It's only one of about 30 that are utilized but it tracks pretty well. Hint: go defensive with your 401k.. last six days have been a decisive inflection point..But you think things are good so do nothing..bye for now be back in six months to chart again..

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