Rensco body addresses wood boiler regulations

Following the state Department of Environmental Conservation's new regulations regarding outdoor wood boilers enacted in late December, the Rensselaer County Legislature adopted a resolution at their January meeting requesting that the DEC reconsider those changes. Full Story
TruthTeller

Keene, NH

#1 Jan 17, 2011
the government is trying to tell people they can only stay warm according to the way we say -- which begs the question; where are all the right wingers who want freedom from government? They ought to be leading the charge on this!
GDog

Miami, FL

#2 Jan 17, 2011
You are a LIAR! PROVE IT!
BKG

United States

#3 Jan 17, 2011
If you read the article TT, you'd find that the state is acting on complaints from people who live near those who have boilers. Not that I agree with the state. I have three neighbors that burn wood and it hasn't bothered me or my family in the ten years we've lived here. People have become too intolerant of their neighbors these days.
TruthTeller

Keene, NH

#4 Jan 17, 2011
BKG wrote:
If you read the article TT, you'd find that the state is acting on complaints from people who live near those who have boilers. Not that I agree with the state. I have three neighbors that burn wood and it hasn't bothered me or my family in the ten years we've lived here. People have become too intolerant of their neighbors these days.
I know what the issue is. And I'll bet that every single complaint that comes in, is from a flat-lander that moved here to live in the country. They need to move back to where they came from if they don't like what country folks do to get by.
ResearchGirl

Chatham, NY

#5 Jan 18, 2011
It is very sad that at this late date the Rensselaer County Legislature is so uninformed about Outdoor Wood Boilers ---indeed about wood smoke. The DEC issued a watered down rule which will not take affect until over 6 years after the NY Attorney General issued their report, Smoke Gets in Your Lungs. If the Rensselaer Co. Legislature thinks that is too fast it is no wonder nothing ever gets done. The rule will not be health protective. The "90% cleaner" is meaningless for OWBs which by design squash oxygen supply and emit tons more fine particulate than allowed for new indoor wood stoves which have been regulated for nearly 20 years. The AG report had emissions as high as 269 g/hr. Compare that to the requirement of EPA certified catalytic indoor wood stoves of 4 grams, oil furnaces of .07 g/hr. or gas furnaces of .04 g/hr. NY needs an emission standard to protect public health like the State of Washington has had for the past 20 years. The new rule will do nothing to address the very serious issue of those living downwind of these highly polluting stoves. Where is the Rensselaer Co. Environmental Mgt. Council? Why have they not educated the Legislature? Wood smoke has many of the same carcinogens as cigarette smoke. You can leave a room to escape wood smoke, but you can not move your house. How would you like to have a child gasping for breath because they have asthma and wood smoke from a neighbor's OWB was nearly killing your child. Or what if your wife had lung cancer and your neighbor's OWB was causing her to be unable to regain her health. That is the reality in NY and seemingly NO ONE CARES. The Rensselaer Co. Legislature should be pushing for a ban on OWBs and an emission standard for NY. The should also be aware that NYSERDA has a new $3.2 million dollar energy efficiency program for Farmers. If this program is packaged w/the USDA's program, Farmers can get 100% of their energy upgrades covered. How about promoting those facts instead of the bemoaning DECs less than adequate Rule!
brappp

Rochester, NY

#6 Feb 14, 2011
your a moron research girl....go back to hugging trees, I'll be cutting them down

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#7 Feb 15, 2011
http://www.epa.gov/burnwise/owhhlist.html

The EPA has a list of OWBs that meet EPA standards just like my woodstove.

I do believe that in time the OWBs will be regulated just like the wodstoves are today.
waa waa waa

Cutler, IN

#8 Feb 24, 2011
ResearchGirl wrote:
It is very sad that at this late date the Rensselaer County Legislature is so uninformed about Outdoor Wood Boilers ---indeed about wood smoke. The DEC issued a watered down rule which will not take affect until over 6 years after the NY Attorney General issued their report, Smoke Gets in Your Lungs. If the Rensselaer Co. Legislature thinks that is too fast it is no wonder nothing ever gets done. The rule will not be health protective. The "90% cleaner" is meaningless for OWBs which by design squash oxygen supply and emit tons more fine particulate than allowed for new indoor wood stoves which have been regulated for nearly 20 years. The AG report had emissions as high as 269 g/hr. Compare that to the requirement of EPA certified catalytic indoor wood stoves of 4 grams, oil furnaces of .07 g/hr. or gas furnaces of .04 g/hr. NY needs an emission standard to protect public health like the State of Washington has had for the past 20 years. The new rule will do nothing to address the very serious issue of those living downwind of these highly polluting stoves. Where is the Rensselaer Co. Environmental Mgt. Council? Why have they not educated the Legislature? Wood smoke has many of the same carcinogens as cigarette smoke. You can leave a room to escape wood smoke, but you can not move your house. How would you like to have a child gasping for breath because they have asthma and wood smoke from a neighbor's OWB was nearly killing your child. Or what if your wife had lung cancer and your neighbor's OWB was causing her to be unable to regain her health. That is the reality in NY and seemingly NO ONE CARES. The Rensselaer Co. Legislature should be pushing for a ban on OWBs and an emission standard for NY. The should also be aware that NYSERDA has a new $3.2 million dollar energy efficiency program for Farmers. If this program is packaged w/the USDA's program, Farmers can get 100% of their energy upgrades covered. How about promoting those facts instead of the bemoaning DECs less than adequate Rule!
oh no, poor little johnny with asthma. Knock it off, guess we all better stop driving cars to cuz poor little johnny. Effin green wacko. This is farm country, don't like it? Move !
Up in smoke

United States

#9 Mar 6, 2011
Some people are just nitpicking OWBs and their owners because of sheer jealousy and also lack of education about the OWBs. Frankly, us OWB owners/users are continuously busting our asses gathering fallen trees or cutting dead trees, replainting trees, hauling wood, splitting wood, cleaning out OWB, maintaining proper levels, etc continuously in order to heat our homes, while the others just flick a friggin switch. Furthermore, OWBs are typically installed a certain distance from other homes, so as not to inhibit neighboring home's air quality, etc. I urge those that are against OWBs to get the real facts, and to get a grip on their jealousy.

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