Baden to do 2nd autopsy on Szostak

[Kim8871]

Hi Everyone!

As I stated earlier on this board in regards to Jaliek. Those who have been following his story all along know who is most likely to blame. We have all provided Detroit with background and links. Once he reads up I hope that he too will realize who is responsible for Jaliek's disappearance. Friend of Josh summed it up, Stephen Kerr and Bill Szostak are polar opposites.

As to any relation to the smiley face killers as they have been described in the media, Jaliek doesn't fit the profile. Jaliek is 12 year old boy, just a child. This group of killers target male college aged men. Not that we should turn our back on any possibilities but in Jaliek's case the facts seem to speak for themselves.

[A Friend of Josh]

These stories in the newspapers sicken me as to what "loving adoptive parents" are doing to their children. What is wrong with these people???? Do they have to take tests proving that they are mentally fit to care for children, biological or otherwise??

[Michele]

Owllover wrote:

Thank you for your support Michele & A Friend of Josh,
Just to let you both know... Jaliek was treated very different than the other children.. Punishment for Jaliek was to go to work with his "Dad?' and sit for 8 hours.. holding a sign that says.. I am invisible.. do not talk to me. He wasn't allowed to talk or move.. His "parent's?" took the kids to the water. Jaliek had to get out and sit on the shore while the others played.. sounds like they really loved him.. HUH. He was deprived of using an outhouse.. the only bathroom they had, because he forgot to put a lid back on the toilet paper holder.. He was forced to deficate in the local woods!! I am truly sorry to take up this thread which is meant for Joshua. But questions were asked and I felt the need to answer. I pray for Joshua every day..and all involved with his justice. Thank you for listening.

Thanks for the info owl...alot there that I did not know. How horrid. Jaliek's mystery will be solved as will Josh's because of all of the people who do care. To Josh's friend, I think you are a truely amazing person. After all you have been through , you still make it your business to also care for Jaliek. Prayes for both families always.

[SallyBee]

Jess wrote:

It sure makes you feel more alert!

Its people like you that cause DUI accidents and kill other people!!! My cousin was killed by an idiot like you, they went out and got drunk, took a walk to wake up then got behind the wheel and drove home. on the way they ran a stop sign and killed mike. people that think a short walk in the cold air or a cup of coffee will fix things are just stupid idiots who will get someone killed some day

[Kim8871]

SallyBee wrote:

<quoted text>Its people like you that cause DUI accidents and kill other people!!! My cousin was killed by an idiot like you, they went out and got drunk, took a walk to wake up then got behind the wheel and drove home. on the way they ran a stop sign and killed mike. people that think a short walk in the cold air or a cup of coffee will fix things are just stupid idiots who will get someone killed some day

With all due respect SallyBee, nobody said that's what they practiced or if that was Josh's intentions. I had stated in a previous post that it would sober you up a bit. Sober was the wrong choice of words for me to use but Jess knew what I was talking about. When you go out into the cold air it does wake you up a bit. I don't think anyone here would feel that it would be enough to say "ok, I'm good enough to drive now".

I'm sorry for your loss.

[A Friend of Josh]

Sally Bee,
Nobody is saying they approve of someone driving drunk. It is definitely NOT the right thing to do. We are just trying to figure out what happened to Josh that night. Yes, he was highly intoxicated when he left the Bayou and started walking back to his car. I don't believe for a minute that the Josh I knew would get into his car and drive. Especially, when he left his car at the Elbo Room that night to take a cab to the next place they were going. I only wish he had taken a cab back there that night as well. I believe that he would have gone back there and probably gotten in and fallen asleep. My daughter had another friend who died last year after he had just graduated from Shaker H.S. I'm sure most of you read about it in the papers. He was on his way home from work in Albany and had just dropped a co-worker off at home when he was struck by a woman who was being chased by the police for DWI and she killed him. He also, like Josh, had a promising future ahead of him. He would have been leaving soon to go to California to film school. He had wanted to be a director from when he was a child. So, NO I do not approve of drunk driving. I was hit by a drunk driver years ago, while on my way out to celebrate my birthday and luckily I am here to talk about it today. He hit us head on and luckily my friend who was with me was badly hurt either.

[A Friend of Josh]

oops, WASN'T badly hurt.

[DETROIT]

On speaking with one of the Investigator handling the Smiley Face Investiagtion I
mentioned that I`d read that the killer had possibly been on Casino video with
STIENkeoway. I described Gary and his age and the Investigator agrees that Gary
matches the age of the alleged killer on casino video with STIENkeoway before
STIENkeoway was drowned. Is it just a coincidence that the original Zodiac killer
murdered STINE and this is STIENkeoway?

Zodiac killed his victims on or near holidays. Is it just a coincidence that Gary`s 2nd
victim Judy Ferro died Dec 31 and that three of Smiley Face victims also died on Dec 31.
New Years Eve. Among the Smiley face victims two died Dec 23 just before Christmas,
and two died Halloween and two died Martin Luther King Birthday. In all 60% of the
Smiley Face victims are WED/SUN/ Holidays. Is it just a coincidence that the Michigan
victims were all abducted on WED & SUN on/ near the Holidays of New Years,
Christmas, Valentines Day and St. Patricks Day. Likewise Jonbenet Ramsey was killed
Christmas night and Helgoth killed Valentines Day. Is it just a coincidence that quotes
from the Zodiac remake Dirty Harry were in the Jonbenet Ramsey Ransom Note?

Is it just a coincidence that Michigan victim Tim King was fed his favorite food chicken
before his murder and that Jonbenet Ramsey was fed her favorite food pineapple before
her murder? Just a coincidence that the Michigan kids were abducted on WED &SUN,
washed and then redressed after dead and that Jonbenet was murdered WED, washed
after dead and redressed in WEDNESDAY underwear? Just a coincidence that a pubic
hair was left on Tim Kings body and on Jonbenet`s blanket?

[Legal__Eagle]

Detroit is inundating our board with his "Gary" character too. He says he is the killer of JonBenet Ramsey along with everyone else in the continental U.S.
http://www.topix.net/forum/news/jonbenet-rams...
Sorry he messed all over your board too!

[DETROIT]

Legal__Eagle wrote:

Detroit is inundating our board with his "Gary" character too. He says he is the killer of JonBenet Ramsey along with everyone else in the continental U.S.
http://www.topix.net/forum/news/jonbenet-rams...
Sorry he messed all over your board too!

No one said anything about the continental United States. You have harassed me continually on the Jonbenet Ramsey Forum, on the OCCK forum and now that I mentioned this forum to someone inquiring about Smiley Face, you have followed me here to harass me. That`s against Topix rules. Furthermore what I`ve said about Gary and Paul B.`s murders has been verified. Helen Dagner verified that what I said about Paul and his buddies Andy Trombley and Michael Willis putting 3 pubic hairs in Deanna Seiferts underpants is exactly what police found. A California Company has since contacted me about paying me for information to make a movie about her movie and the connection to serial killer Leslie Allan Williams who trained paul and brothers Williams and Trombley before Paul B. joined up with Gary McNeil. Gary gave my brother the gloves he used to kill Jonbenet and police will soon test them. I want these killers brought to justice. Gary said that Paul helped him paint this graffiti. Gary`s satanic. That`s why 9 have devil horns. I don`t care what you say I will pursue the truth. These boys did not deserve to die.

[Michele]

DETROIT wrote:

<quoted text>No one said anything about the continental United States. You have harassed me continually on the Jonbenet Ramsey Forum, on the OCCK forum and now that I mentioned this forum to someone inquiring about Smiley Face, you have followed me here to harass me. That`s against Topix rules. Furthermore what I`ve said about Gary and Paul B.`s murders has been verified. Helen Dagner verified that what I said about Paul and his buddies Andy Trombley and Michael Willis putting 3 pubic hairs in Deanna Seiferts underpants is exactly what police found. A California Company has since contacted me about paying me for information to make a movie about her movie and the connection to serial killer Leslie Allan Williams who trained paul and brothers Williams and Trombley before Paul B. joined up with Gary McNeil. Gary gave my brother the gloves he used to kill Jonbenet and police will soon test them. I want these killers brought to justice. Gary said that Paul helped him paint this graffiti. Gary`s satanic. That`s why 9 have devil horns. I don`t care what you say I will pursue the truth. These boys did not deserve to die.

You go Detroit....no matter what the out come ...I see you as someone with alot of info, and just trying to help be your theories right or wrong ...ignore the idiots.

[snellsbrother]

Detroit I would like to talk to you why dont you email me safetyinkc@yahoocom. I would like to see what you have to say about my brothers case.

[snellsbrother]

Detroit is there any way that you can go to the library and shoot me an email with your phone number so I could call you to talk to you about it? I would give you mine but I dont want to give it to everyone that reads this site. I would really like to talk 2 you. If you can do this please make sure that if your header that you write detroit and my brothers name so that I will not delete it thank you I just get stupid emails all day from people that want to wast my time

[Legal__Eagle]

DETROIT wrote:

<quoted text> you have followed me here to harass me. That`s against Topix rules.

No, I did not follow you here to harass you. I have just as much right to post here as you do. I just hate seeing the family of victims given false hope because you are posting your "Gary is a Serial Killer Crap"

My concern, as always, is for the victims of crime. Forewarned is forearmed.

[Jess]

Can someone please call the authorities to look into this to see if it has any truth behind it. Detroit seems very organized in his beliefs and it is pretty freaky. I want to know if this is true stuff or is this guy crazy??? I am sick of wondering what if.. please someone call somebody I don't have the guts..

[DETROIT]

In the 1990`s Gary talked about having killed and molested two girls in Florida and that
he took a watch that said Happy Birthday and that it was a mess and before he left that he
LINED THINGS UP. He said the parent came home and he fled out the back. This
exactly fits the May 1990 murders of Robin CORNELL and Lisa in which family pictures
were left LINED UP on an ironing board. Why take the Happy Birthday watch? Because
this occured in May and Gary`s birthday is in May.-Note CORNELL is a UNIVERSITY.

There also seems to be many children missing whose names match water, lakes, and
rivers. I have already mentioned Cayle Bywater missing 12-29-07 in Athens GA.
In the past Gary worked on Cruise ships and recently a passenger named Mindy Jordan
mysteriously fell overboard as did a girl named Susana Jordan go missing the week
before in El Paso TX.-Jordan being a country and a River. There are about 20 more
missing kids with names that match water, rivers and lakes.

Is Gary still working on Cruise ships? I think it`s likely. The ships dock in NY. Gary
often talked of returning along the coast and often going down into Florida. This would
simply require going south down US 95. Get a road atlas. See how 95 leads into 85, then
he can connect right back up with 75 and head north to Detroit. On Friday 11-2-07 Justin Gaines,
age 18 went missing along US 85 at Duluth GA right near the US 75 connection, then a
week later on Friday 11-9-07 Kyle Fleischmann went missing in Charlotte on US 85.

[DETROIT]

Still another instance showing the NY link and the route down the coast down US 95 is the FRI 4-15-05 disappearance of Patrick Welsh while visiting friends in NY and the early morning 4-16-05 disappearance of Arvin Sharma at club LIME in Washington D.C.

[DETROIT]

Heading West from Detroit are the SUN 4-11-99 drowning of GEESEy in WI and the WED 4-14-99 drowning of EdBERG in MN. Again on WED 11-06-02 is MICHAEL Noll in WI and late after 12 pm 11-09-02 really SUN 11-10-02 Josh guIMOND in MN. SEE THE PATTERN SUN-WED WI-MN and WED-SUN WI-MN.

All the Michigan kids were abducted WED & SUN, Gary`s days off work, when he did construction.

[Katrina]

detroit what would make you come to this blog? Being from MI and all? Are you the real Gary?

[Long gone]

Hey Detroit I lost my wallet, any conspiracy theories as to whom stole it?

Oh seeing how gary now take cruise ships that dock in NY(My sarcasm several weeks ago stated this to you and now your running with it) do you think he has direct involvment in the September 11 attacks?