Another Fired Teacher?

Another Fired Teacher?

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Jay

Troy, MO

#1 Apr 29, 2011
I heard today another teacher at the high school was fired for inappropriate conduct with a student.
Anyone else hear anything?
I am not Sherry

Troy, MO

#2 Apr 29, 2011
Yes it's true. A teacher actually did not PASS everyone in the class, taught the students that not everyone gets first place, and when a student was disruptive that student was disciplined.

All things that you CANNOT do to students nowadays because it might harm their fragile little egg shell systems.

In other news everyone under the age of 35 is SHOCKED that they have to work for a living and be responsible for their actions.
Jay

Troy, MO

#3 Apr 29, 2011
If it is truly the teacher I heard it was, I would never believe it.
well

Lake Saint Louis, MO

#4 Apr 29, 2011
Aren't you little miss sunshine.
abc

Lake Saint Louis, MO

#5 Apr 30, 2011
Theres a lot of rumors going around the high school. Nobody knows the true story.. except for him.
He's a great teacher!!
and if its true, then nobody saw it coming..
Troy

Chicago, IL

#6 Apr 30, 2011
Who is the teacher - I have not heard this
Did they ever

O Fallon, MO

#7 Apr 30, 2011
Did they ever press charges to the last teacher? If you go to casenet, there is still nothing there and they haven't pressed charges yet.
Hopefully they have a case this time. I don't understand why on the last case why if he was "guilty" they haven't pressed charges.
Anon

Saint Peters, MO

#8 Apr 30, 2011
Did they ever wrote:
Did they ever press charges to the last teacher? If you go to casenet, there is still nothing there and they haven't pressed charges yet.
Hopefully they have a case this time. I don't understand why on the last case why if he was "guilty" they haven't pressed charges.
No charges have been filed by the Kirkwood Police Department. KPD has jurisdiction as that is where the "alleged" offense occurred.

Seeing that to date no charges have been filed, it would appear that the accuser did not have grounds to persue. On the other hand, since this "alleged" offense has not been proven let alone charged, the alleged perpetrator has suffered loss of job and will never be able to work in a school district again because of this event. So, my point is that I hope that the young woman that made this claim has "lawyered up" cause it will cost her family a bundle......as it should.
Juries

Saint Peters, MO

#9 Apr 30, 2011
Did they ever wrote:
Did they ever press charges to the last teacher? If you go to casenet, there is still nothing there and they haven't pressed charges yet.
Hopefully they have a case this time. I don't understand why on the last case why if he was "guilty" they haven't pressed charges.
It is up to a trial, judge, and jury to determine guilt. Police have no say of guilty. Your statement assumes if a person is investigated or arrested by the poilice that they MUST BE guilty. This is not true, or at least not in the USA. The police investigate and maybe or maybe not they make an arrest. The court will determine guilt based on cross examination of witnesses and the "supposed" victim.
Did they ever

O Fallon, MO

#10 Apr 30, 2011
Juries wrote:
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It is up to a trial, judge, and jury to determine guilt. Police have no say of guilty. Your statement assumes if a person is investigated or arrested by the poilice that they MUST BE guilty. This is not true, or at least not in the USA. The police investigate and maybe or maybe not they make an arrest. The court will determine guilt based on cross examination of witnesses and the "supposed" victim.
Sorry, let me correct my last quote. According to the people on Topix, the last teacher was guilty before any charges have even been brought to him. My only point is, why wouldn't the police wait and investigate the allegations brought against him before they decided to take any action?

I understand some people would say "What if he did do it? Then it would make sense to remove him from his position before he does it again" But then if they don't have anything they can bring against him along the lines of charges, did they not basically just ruin his career as a teacher?

Everyone knows how much people gossip, and let's just say he didn't do it. Lets say that the police had the supposed accuser recant their story. Would the school re-hire him? Or would they not because there is still a chance they think he is guilty/bad publicity? Some people on here kept the gossip alive by saying he has made advances in the past, so the damage is done.

I didn't mean that he is guilty, or he isn't guilty.. But as soon as the story makes the news, I believe a lot of the public base their decisions too soon. I first wondered if it really happened, but as more time passes and no charges come to light, I often wonder if this was just a fake story made up by some high school student?
Juries

Saint Peters, MO

#11 May 1, 2011
Did they ever wrote:
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Sorry, let me correct my last quote. According to the people on Topix, the last teacher was guilty before any charges have even been brought to him. My only point is, why wouldn't the police wait and investigate the allegations brought against him before they decided to take any action?
I understand some people would say "What if he did do it? Then it would make sense to remove him from his position before he does it again" But then if they don't have anything they can bring against him along the lines of charges, did they not basically just ruin his career as a teacher?
Everyone knows how much people gossip, and let's just say he didn't do it. Lets say that the police had the supposed accuser recant their story. Would the school re-hire him? Or would they not because there is still a chance they think he is guilty/bad publicity? Some people on here kept the gossip alive by saying he has made advances in the past, so the damage is done.
I didn't mean that he is guilty, or he isn't guilty.. But as soon as the story makes the news, I believe a lot of the public base their decisions too soon. I first wondered if it really happened, but as more time passes and no charges come to light, I often wonder if this was just a fake story made up by some high school student?
I agree. Being accused of inappropriate behavior with a minor is one of those things where you are determined to be guilty until you prove your innocence. It is a career wrecker for those working with minors and at the very least such an accusation is a character assasination. Even if the charges are an outright lie, the accused is screwed. Of course, people seem to always want to assume the worst of others and so the rumor mill keeps turning.
Ahhh

Saint Peters, MO

#12 May 1, 2011
Typical Troy small town my daughter is perfect and can't do no wrong mentality. Ought to put the accuser under the microscope first.
Lawsuit City

Saint Peters, MO

#13 May 1, 2011
Yep. Small town little girl liar causes irrepairable harm. Damages include several years of lost income due to termination. That would be the compensatory $. Then there would be the punitive awards...potentially a couple of hundred thousand $. I hope that the parents have cash somewhere because they are going to lose it all.

Liar liar pants on fire........
Who

Troy, MO

#14 May 1, 2011
Who was the latest teacher?
Principal

Troy, MO

#15 May 1, 2011
Isn't it time for the high school principal and the hr director to take some responsibility in this? Are they that bad at judging someone's charater? And don't give me, "all teachers are given a background check." At some point, they have to be responsible for hiring these clowns. With all the applicants they get, and they hire these people?
Same Girl

United States

#16 May 1, 2011
Wait until her name come out on this one! I don't know the teacher, but I do know his name, and I'm not saying he is guilty or innocent, but the girl has been in this mess before, although last time she was under age and her daddy bought her out of it. Let's see what little miss 18's daddy can do for her now. Oh, and she was a topic on Topix also, almost a year to the date!
List

O Fallon, MO

#17 May 1, 2011
I'm not choosing sides or anything.. but i heard that this girl has a list of teachers that she wanted too sleep with before she graduated...
she must be classy!
Just wait

Chicago, IL

#18 May 1, 2011
Principal wrote:
Isn't it time for the high school principal and the hr director to take some responsibility in this? Are they that bad at judging someone's charater? And don't give me, "all teachers are given a background check." At some point, they have to be responsible for hiring these clowns. With all the applicants they get, and they hire these people?
not sure this one could have been predicted by anybody....Anyway it's the responsibility of the immature teachers who pull this crap, period. Don't let those idiots off the hook. They are adults and they are preying on young girls. It sickens me and don't tell me that those other teachers don't know this is happening. They all think it's a game and protect each other. Sick.
HOs

Saint Peters, MO

#19 May 1, 2011
Principal wrote:
Isn't it time for the high school principal and the hr director to take some responsibility in this? Are they that bad at judging someone's charater? And don't give me, "all teachers are given a background check." At some point, they have to be responsible for hiring these clowns. With all the applicants they get, and they hire these people?
Don't you think part of the problem is that too many of the females that go to TBHS dress and act like sl*ts and wh**es?
And where do they get that.....Mom?
Customer

O Fallon, MO

#20 May 1, 2011
Just wait wrote:
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not sure this one could have been predicted by anybody....Anyway it's the responsibility of the immature teachers who pull this crap, period. Don't let those idiots off the hook. They are adults and they are preying on young girls. It sickens me and don't tell me that those other teachers don't know this is happening. They all think it's a game and protect each other. Sick.
This is what I am talking about from earlier. People are quick to assume the teacher did something wrong when again, there are no charges pressed against the "alleged" teacher. I am not saying they are innocent or guilty, but why not wait for all the facts to come out before passing judgement?

Basically, the way it seems to go currently is that if someone says they don't like a teacher, they technically could make up something along the lines of "The teacher touched me" and the next thing you know the teacher is dismissed and while they investigate the alleged charges, the damages have already been done.

So again, why not wait for all the facts to come out before passing judgement?

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