Plinker

Wentzville, MO

#1 Jan 7, 2013
What the hell happened to all the .22 lr ammo ,went yesterday to bass pro only to hear "sorry-sold out" then went to three different wal marts , all sold out--what gives ??
Horatio

Winfield, MO

#2 Jan 7, 2013
The feds are coming after all ammo....unless you've had your head buried in the sand it's going up in price on all calibers but especially .223 , 9 millimeter,.380 , 5.60 and 7.39 as well as .22 long rifle and .45 cal. We have dumbshit politician's tinkering with ideas that go contrary to the bill of rights. Rights that were given by God are now being looked at as 'given by government' instead of being unalienable. Hence....ammo sales through the roof. You can still get the 375 round boxes of .22 ammo at Buzzy's for around 15 dollars a box. Two years ago you could get 850 rounds for that price.
Plinker

Wentzville, MO

#3 Jan 7, 2013
yeah , im hip to the crap thats coming down as a result of some idiot plitical games but i just never thought it would effect something as low profile as the old trusty .22 ,,yep its getting sad.////Thanks for the advice about "Buzzy's"
Wrong Horatio

United States

#4 Jan 7, 2013
Horatio wrote:
The feds are coming after all ammo....unless you've had your head buried in the sand it's going up in price on all calibers but especially .223 , 9 millimeter,.380 , 5.60 and 7.39 as well as .22 long rifle and .45 cal. We have dumbshit politician's tinkering with ideas that go contrary to the bill of rights. Rights that were given by God are now being looked at as 'given by government' instead of being unalienable. Hence....ammo sales through the roof. You can still get the 375 round boxes of .22 ammo at Buzzy's for around 15 dollars a box. Two years ago you could get 850 rounds for that price.
The Bill of Rights has nothing to do with the Declaration of Independence.. Two different documents, authored for two different purposes.

And the word is inalienable.
Coonass

Wentzville, MO

#5 Jan 7, 2013
Wrong Horatio wrote:
<quoted text>
The Bill of Rights has nothing to do with the Declaration of Independence.. Two different documents, authored for two different purposes.
And the word is inalienable.
This aint no spellin' contest, and neither of those documents mean anything to our current president!
under the table

United States

#6 Jan 8, 2013
How is it they are only going to tax only those rounds? one would figure they would tax across the board, but you must know something the rest of us dont.
heightgage

Defiance, MO

#7 Jan 8, 2013
Horatio wrote:
The feds are coming after all ammo....unless you've had your head buried in the sand it's going up in price on all calibers but especially .223 , 9 millimeter,.380 , 5.60 and 7.39 as well as .22 long rifle and .45 cal. We have dumbshit politician's tinkering with ideas that go contrary to the bill of rights. Rights that were given by God are now being looked at as 'given by government' instead of being unalienable. Hence....ammo sales through the roof. You can still get the 375 round boxes of .22 ammo at Buzzy's for around 15 dollars a box. Two years ago you could get 850 rounds for that price.
Yes, but what are you going to do about it?? Nothing, because there isn't a thing you can do about it. Vote them out? How are you going to do that? They always come up with two candidates that think the same way they do and we pick the lesser of two evils. Politicians bear politians that bear politicians. This has been going on for decades. The politicians today have never lived the life we do. They know nothing of how we live and they don't care! Our government is no longer for the people. Our Government is for themselves. They make the laws and they make them for their own benefit.
Plinker

Wentzville, MO

#8 Jan 8, 2013
heightgage wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, but what are you going to do about it?? Nothing, because there isn't a thing you can do about it. Vote them out? How are you going to do that? They always come up with two candidates that think the same way they do and we pick the lesser of two evils. Politicians bear politians that bear politicians. This has been going on for decades. The politicians today have never lived the life we do. They know nothing of how we live and they don't care! Our government is no longer for the people. Our Government is for themselves. They make the laws and they make them for their own benefit.
For a lot of years now I have heard about how crooked the government was and I have seen it for myself numerous times.
Out of all the articals i've read and conspiracy theories i've seen on tv ,nothing ever really made sense as to how or why all the politicians could possibly "ALL" be crroked ,because of that I have maintained a small amount of trust in my elected officials.
Why your words got to me ,I dont know ! But you are absolutly right !I suppose that It never dawned on me that the rotten bastaards are multiple generations into a totally different world than the rest of the population ,they truly dont give a rats ass about us because they dont even know who or what we are.
Whoever you are ,thank you for your insight.
Horatio

Winfield, MO

#9 Jan 8, 2013
Sorry...you are right about Inalienable. As far as the two documents being written in a vacuum and being written separately for two different purposes. I don't buy it. The framers were clearly affected by the chance to create a government free from a King with overreaching authority. The rights were cleverly deemed to be inalienable from God so as to not allow men and governments the ability to abridge those freedoms. The Constitution was derived and focused on the individual....and extended powers to the government at the consent of the governed.

The government plays a dangerous game when it assumes that the individuals will just roll over when Constitutional freedoms are 'infringed' upon.
heightgage

Defiance, MO

#10 Jan 8, 2013
Plinker wrote:
<quoted text>
For a lot of years now I have heard about how crooked the government was and I have seen it for myself numerous times.
Out of all the articals i've read and conspiracy theories i've seen on tv ,nothing ever really made sense as to how or why all the politicians could possibly "ALL" be crroked ,because of that I have maintained a small amount of trust in my elected officials.
Why your words got to me ,I dont know ! But you are absolutly right !I suppose that It never dawned on me that the rotten bastaards are multiple generations into a totally different world than the rest of the population ,they truly dont give a rats ass about us because they dont even know who or what we are.
Whoever you are ,thank you for your insight.
Thanks so much for your reply. Nice to read from somone who doesn't start calling vulgar names and can read and understand what a person is conveying. I am like you. I have always held on to a glimmer of hope that our government was still for the people. I have seen flickers of hope dimish as I have gone trough life. I have really gotten wrapped up in politics and started to see what was actually taking place. The demise of our Goverment caring for it's people has really snowballed in the last 16 years. I was fortunate to be born in the early 40's and grew up during the 50's - 60's. I am probably of the last generation that has actually known true freedom. An era where people had respect for others, themselves and our Governemt. Sorry to say those days are gone and will never return.
Thanks again for your reply.
Wrong Horatio

United States

#11 Jan 8, 2013
Horatio wrote:
Sorry...you are right about Inalienable. As far as the two documents being written in a vacuum and being written separately for two different purposes. I don't buy it. The framers were clearly affected by the chance to create a government free from a King with overreaching authority. The rights were cleverly deemed to be inalienable from God so as to not allow men and governments the ability to abridge those freedoms. The Constitution was derived and focused on the individual....and extended powers to the government at the consent of the governed.
The government plays a dangerous game when it assumes that the individuals will just roll over when Constitutional freedoms are 'infringed' upon.
The purpose of the Declaration of Independence was to set out the reasons why King George and the English Parliament had violated the public trust, thereby giving legitimacy to the de mand for self government. It is much like filing a formal complaint in court......where you state the cause of the complaint and evidence thereof.

As you point out, the Constitution identifies the rules under which the government operates at the consent of the governed. It does not contain anything about why the Colonies separated from England.
Horatio

Saint Peters, MO

#12 Jan 9, 2013
We agree...but i'm making the point that the framers had a 'frame of mind' that was determined by the earlier document...and a heart to create something which would not be bound by an oppressive central power ran by the whims of evil men.

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