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Heightgage

Lake Saint Louis, MO

#1 Dec 17, 2012
Ok - Ok, I am tired of listening to you all you advocates for gun control, it is time for you to put up or shut up!
You put your actions where your mouth is. Here's what you do. When you get off here, go down to your mancave and make a huge white sign. Then you write on the sign, in large letters:

"NO GUNS IN THIS HOUSE".

Then place the sign in your front yard.

And, while you are at it. Start a public list of antigunners who don't have guns in their house. Put your name and addresses on there. Then sit back and enjoy that warm fuzzy feeling that your family is unprotected and everyone knows it.

Then after enough families are slaughtered, you will be crying for a gun. But, it's too late. Gun ownership is against the law.

So, go ahead put the sign in your yard, the criminals will love it.
Agree

Saint Louis, MO

#2 Dec 17, 2012
Heightgage wrote:
Ok - Ok, I am tired of listening to you all you advocates for gun control, it is time for you to put up or shut up!
You put your actions where your mouth is. Here's what you do. When you get off here, go down to your mancave and make a huge white sign. Then you write on the sign, in large letters:
"NO GUNS IN THIS HOUSE".
Then place the sign in your front yard.
And, while you are at it. Start a public list of antigunners who don't have guns in their house. Put your name and addresses on there. Then sit back and enjoy that warm fuzzy feeling that your family is unprotected and everyone knows it.
Then after enough families are slaughtered, you will be crying for a gun. But, it's too late. Gun ownership is against the law.
So, go ahead put the sign in your yard, the criminals will love it.
I agree.

My wife had mentally ill man stalking her 4 years ago. It's a really long story but sum it up it took over a year of living in fear before he was locked up. Despite a restrainting order this man stole a truck for her parents house, drove to where he thought she lived, kicked down the front door and demanded the occupant tell him where my now wife lived. He then left in the stolen truck and drove to the church that my wife attended. He then broke into the church and started a fire. He was later apprehended and given a 5 year prison sentence. He served two and a half years and is now out.

You better believe that we have guns in our house to protect ourselves.

If everyone had to experience something like this I am sure they might have a different opinion on weapon bans.
Proccw

Warrenton, MO

#4 Dec 17, 2012
Heightgage wrote:
Ok - Ok, I am tired of listening to you all you advocates for gun control, it is time for you to put up or shut up!
You put your actions where your mouth is. Here's what you do. When you get off here, go down to your mancave and make a huge white sign. Then you write on the sign, in large letters:
"NO GUNS IN THIS HOUSE".
Then place the sign in your front yard.
And, while you are at it. Start a public list of antigunners who don't have guns in their house. Put your name and addresses on there. Then sit back and enjoy that warm fuzzy feeling that your family is unprotected and everyone knows it.
Then after enough families are slaughtered, you will be crying for a gun. But, it's too late. Gun ownership is against the law.
So, go ahead put the sign in your yard, the criminals will love it.
That is too funny,, but so true. They refuse to acknowledge the facts that these incidents occur most often in gun free zones. The solution of banning guns will only keep any more guns from entering lawful households. I'm waiting to hear what they propose to do with all the guns already out there. Will we be like Germany was and demand we surrender certain types of guns? That will never happen, but their solutions are single minded and naive.
Lets Be Clear

Wentzville, MO

#5 Dec 17, 2012
The schools should simply make bigger "Gun Free Zone" signs so the bad guys can readily see and read them before they enter school property to personify evil.
The large signs will surely make them think twice since they know they will be breaking the law.

You're exactly right proccw.
Columbine, Aurora, VT, Sandy Hook; all gun free zones with Connecticut having stringent gun control laws.

Seems clear to me that "gun control" had an epic fail in each of these cases so what does any reasonable person expect to change if more laws are added to the books.
Murder is against the law.
In many States, you can get the death penalty if convicted.
But it doesn't deter a murderer from murdering.

Be honest. Gun Control FAILED in Connecticut.
Propose a solution

O Fallon, MO

#6 Dec 18, 2012
Lets Be Clear wrote:
The schools should simply make bigger "Gun Free Zone" signs so the bad guys can readily see and read them before they enter school property to personify evil.
The large signs will surely make them think twice since they know they will be breaking the law.
You're exactly right proccw.
Columbine, Aurora, VT, Sandy Hook; all gun free zones with Connecticut having stringent gun control laws.
Seems clear to me that "gun control" had an epic fail in each of these cases so what does any reasonable person expect to change if more laws are added to the books.
Murder is against the law.
In many States, you can get the death penalty if convicted.
But it doesn't deter a murderer from murdering.
Be honest. Gun Control FAILED in Connecticut.
So what is the answer...we're all listening.
Lets Be Clear

Wentzville, MO

#7 Dec 19, 2012
Propose a solution wrote:
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So what is the answer...we're all listening.
The answer to what? Mass murders?
I have several opinions concerning this, but only one matters and it it lies within the realm of faith and spirit.
But I don't think that is what you are wanting to discuss, so I can throw another idea out, but even it isn't a cure for a deranged individual intent on personifying evil.

In the case of Sandy Hook, it, like Aurora, VT, and Columbine, were GUN FREE ZONES.
Connecticut is ranked 5th in the Nation for most stringent gun control laws. So it becomes obvious that gun control laws don't work.

Allow qualified Teachers and Administrators to either carry or have readily available, firearms. Require specific, tactical training for their environment.
If that Principal had had an AR15, at the ready,and had certified training, she could have possibly taken the threat out instead of just handing her life over helping no one.

Review other security measures at schools and adjust.

As far as other places, work for conceal carry/open carry laws in your State; get your concealed carry permit; train train train and carry every time you walk out of your home.

So, my answer isn't simply more firearms.
It is more qualified/trained individuals.
Proccw

O Fallon, MO

#8 Dec 19, 2012
Propose a solution wrote:
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So what is the answer...we're all listening.
Are you really listening or just looking for a reason to voice sarcastic quip. This is a serious problem requiring focused logical thoughts. There is no one single solution for this multi faceted problem? Ignoring the facts will only lead to treating the symptoms not the problem. Part of the problem is access to affordable mental health. Part of the problem is some reasonable gun reforms to tighten up loop holes. Part of the problem is our schools are not secure. Denying any of the facts would br irresponsible. One of the facts is Ct schools are Gun Free Zones. Another fact is the last 3 slaughters took place in a gun free zones.
Proccw

O Fallon, MO

#9 Dec 19, 2012
Another fact that must not be ignored is, the shooter will retreat or most often turn the gun on themselves when confronted with an armed individual. Sorry for the rant,
Agree

Saint Peters, MO

#10 Dec 19, 2012
[QUOTE who="Proccw There is no one single solution for this multi faceted problem? Ignoring the facts will only lead to treating the symptoms not the problem. Part of the problem is access to affordable mental health. Part of the problem is some reasonable gun reforms to tighten up loop holes. Part of the problem is our schools are not secure. Denying any of the facts would br irresponsible.[/QUOTE]

I completely agree with the above...

[QUOTE who="Proccw One of the facts is Ct schools are Gun Free Zones. Another fact is the last 3 slaughters took place in a gun free zones.[/QUOTE]

Do not forget the fact that in ALL three "slaughters" guns were used...Guns are part of the problem...
Proccw

O Fallon, MO

#11 Dec 19, 2012
Agree wrote:
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I completely agree with the above...
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Do not forget the fact that in ALL three "slaughters" guns were used...Guns are part of the problem...
I do not deny that guns were or are part of the problem, lest not forget that a gun is unable to fire itself repeatedly into a crowd of people. My issue is so many believe guns are the only problem. If they reform and ban particular guns . This will satisfy so many people they will not continue to look into the other contributing factors. The other part of the equation is the shooter and certainly the Mental state of the shooter. It

Say we ban the Ar15. Ok so no more will be legally purchased, doing nothing for the millions that are already out there legally owned. 100% solution to the gun problem is a 100% ellimination of guns Can you imagine the govntmt Legislating all legal gun Ar15 owners to turn over their arms? Civil unrest comes to mind. Reforms would be a more logical solution in part.
You Choose

Ballwin, MO

#12 Dec 19, 2012
http://8minutesoffame.com/america-freedom-vs-...
•How many massacres are listed? 21
•Over how many years did they occur? 13
•How many people were killed in total? 183 people (including the killers)
•How many of them involved assault rifles? 1 (The AK-47)
•In how many of the 21 locations was a civilian allowed to carry a weapon to defend themselves or others?(Two, potentially three depending on the legality of one particular location in question.)
While atrocious in the extreme, and a fine example of some of our country’s worst human beings, pay attention to some of the aggregated figures revealed in these historical references.
Did you believe after hearing all these years that out of 21 massacres in our country’s recent history, a total of three of them happened in locations were people were allowed to carry guns? And of those 21 massacres, two of them were stopped by… wait for it… people carrying guns.
Jack

Wentzville, MO

#13 Dec 19, 2012
Look at every mass shooting in the last ten years. Columbine, VT, Aurora CO, Sandy Hook....what is the one common denominator with each shooter? Antidepressant/psyche prescription drug usage. There's the mental trigger that the media ignores. The side effects for many of these drugs clearly state," acute psychotic episodes." Most are known for also triggering zombie like affect...an inability to care for others or themselves. Combine this with control issues and you have a cocktail for suicidal aggression.
This issue has been ignored by the media nationwide even though the facts are staring them in the face. Why? Could it be that the biggest purchasers of print media and 60 second commercials are the big drug companies?
Hmmm

Saint Peters, MO

#14 Dec 19, 2012
Jack wrote:
Look at every mass shooting in the last ten years. Columbine, VT, Aurora CO, Sandy Hook....what is the one common denominator with each shooter? Antidepressant/psyche prescription drug usage.
You mean other than a gun as a common denominator...right?
Hmmm

Saint Peters, MO

#15 Dec 19, 2012
You Choose wrote:
And of those 21 massacres, two of them were stopped by… wait for it… people carrying guns.
Sure...but out of the 21 massacre...wait for it...21 of them were committed using a gun...
You Choose

Ballwin, MO

#16 Dec 19, 2012
Hmmm wrote:
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Sure...but out of the 21 massacre...wait for it...21 of them were committed using a gun...
You will never be able to take guns off the street so what is your answer?
Jack

Wentzville, MO

#17 Dec 19, 2012
of course other than the gun... Prior to the attacks these individuals pulled a mental 'trigger' first that was precipitated by prescription drug abuse/misuse.
They have no connection with the actions of law abiding citizens practicing their second amendment rights.
Hmmm

Saint Peters, MO

#18 Dec 19, 2012
You Choose wrote:
<quoted text>
You will never be able to take guns off the street so what is your answer?
Answer to what??? Did you ask a question of me???
Hmmm

Saint Peters, MO

#19 Dec 19, 2012
Jack wrote:
of course other than the gun... Prior to the attacks these individuals pulled a mental 'trigger' first that was precipitated by prescription drug abuse/misuse.
They have no connection with the actions of law abiding citizens practicing their second amendment rights.
But pulling the trigger of the "gun" during the attacks killed innocent people...right???
Proccw

O Fallon, MO

#20 Dec 19, 2012
I just heard part of a news report about a bill to allow Missouri school employees be armed.
ujoints

Saint Peters, MO

#21 Dec 19, 2012
no your wrong you teach your kids right from wrong and teach them about god.

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