Missouri Proposition B: The Puppy Mil...

Missouri Proposition B: The Puppy Mill Bill

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hmmmm

Warrenton, MO

#1702 Oct 21, 2010
Now, who is the liar? Ummm the HSUS, that's who.
Vote NO on Prop. B
Local HSUS

Warrenton, MO

#1703 Oct 21, 2010
hmmmm wrote:
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If it is a PUPPY MILL BILL as you say, why does it target law abiding kennels that it WILL put out of business? The ILLEGAL (yes, we already have the laws in place) puppy mills will have MUCH more business, now that the legal kennels will not be able to afford to stay running. AND it will make 100's, if not 1000's of dogs in loving, legal kennels HOMELESS!!! YES HOMELESS, because their owners will be forced to get rid of them! You are really helping the dogs aren't you! Check out the HSUS website!! Look how they brag about the states that they have passed laws in concerning hunting! Their agenda is NOT just PUPPIES! It is absolutly agriculture!!! This law IS to get their foot in the door in MO! The bill states DOMESTIC ANIMALS, NOT PUPPIES!!!! I believe they have the right to their opinion, if they are against agriculture, but be honest about it! Stop lying and let people know the repercussions of this bill and what the true agenda is!! EVERYONE NEEDS TO GET INFO ON THE HSUS AND THIER TRUE AGENDA!! LOOK IT UP, IT IS PUBLIC KNOWLWDGE!! This bill IS NOT just about SAVING PUPPIES, it is out to target agriculture!! THEY ARE LIARS! If you don't believe me, do your own research!!
VOTE NO ON PROP. B!!
We've been through this get that through your head
You over breed the dogs and most already end up dead
Prop B will help fix some of the stuff not all
If you had a brain I wouldn't feel like I was talking to a wall
We can pass this bill it is just about overbred, uncared for dogs
We will never want to, or be allowed to change it to horses cattle chickens or hogs.
This bill WILL PASS so puppies won't be disgaurded
Now please stop being so FUCKING RETARDED
PATTY

West Plains, MO

#1704 Oct 21, 2010
quuphoop wrote:
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I'm not your sweetheart and you know absolutly nothing about me, my morals or my ethics. I will not answer to you or your band of merry terrorists. You can call me anything you want, it just makes you all look scared that this is going to fail. I would say alot, but you people just don't listen to what we have tried to tell you, so I won't even try. You are all rude and people that read your retorts have seen you for who you are. So dish it up, I can take it because my conscious is clear. My animals are happy, very social and they are not abused! Like I said, mind your own business, I live in America and I have constitutional rights as long as I am in the scope of the law. I am, so leave us alone. The great people of Missouri is seeing a ARA for who they really are.
Quite honestly, I would like to know what you believe to be acceptable,too. All that oppose Prop B, can any of you please explain to us what you deem responsible & acceptable breeding practices? Maybe we can find some common ground.
hmmmm

Warrenton, MO

#1705 Oct 21, 2010
Local HSUS wrote:
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We've been through this get that through your head
You over breed the dogs and most already end up dead
Prop B will help fix some of the stuff not all
If you had a brain I wouldn't feel like I was talking to a wall
We can pass this bill it is just about overbred, uncared for dogs
We will never want to, or be allowed to change it to horses cattle chickens or hogs.
This bill WILL PASS so puppies won't be disgaurded
Now please stop being so FUCKING RETARDED
You are the one who doesn't understand what a domestic animal is! You still didn't answer what is going to happen to all of the animal's this bill will displace. You would rather call names to distract from the facts. It is ABSOLUTLY not about overbred dogs, it is to limit the number of domestic animals some one can have. I have been on the HSUS website and I know what the agenda is. It is ALL OVER the site, so why do you come on here and act like that is not their agenda? The laws are in place that make this illegal all ready, and according to your reports, we have all of these puppy mills. THESE ARE ALL READY ILLEGAL!! This affects the law abiding, legal kennels. Do you think that the illegal puppy mills are going to suddenly decide that because you passed Prop. B they will shut down because they are illegal? Umm..no, that is not going to happen. It is going to affect the ones all ready following the law. PLEASE explain to me WHO is going to care for the animals now homeless from this law? PLEASE!! Maybe the HSUS can donate their 1/2 of 1% that they all ready spend on animals and set up a place for these animals to live, since they have EXCLUDED themselves from this law, and they are the only ones that can have more than 50 domestic animals!

Since: Mar 10

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#1706 Oct 21, 2010
Puppies are evil. So are ponies...we should lock them ALL up and throw away the key!
hmmmm

Warrenton, MO

#1707 Oct 21, 2010
Local HSUS wrote:
<quoted text>
We've been through this get that through your head
You over breed the dogs and most already end up dead
Prop B will help fix some of the stuff not all
If you had a brain I wouldn't feel like I was talking to a wall
We can pass this bill it is just about overbred, uncared for dogs
We will never want to, or be allowed to change it to horses cattle chickens or hogs.
This bill WILL PASS so puppies won't be disgaurded
Now please stop being so FUCKING RETARDED

I find it amusing that I instruct the voting public to check out the true agenda of your group, and go to YOUR groups website and figure it out for themselves, and you throw profanity at me, that's awesome! Your groups website IS a RADICAL group against agriculture and hunting. And that is fine, you are entitled to your beliefs, but be honest about it! Stop lying to the voting public that this is all about puppies! It is about DOMESTIC ANIMALS and limiting the number that we, which means everyone but the HSUS (because they have excluded themselves from this bill) are allowed to have! If it was about dogs, it would say dogs, not domestic animals! This statement alone should show all of you that are undecided that the HSUS does not want the truth out there. They want you to drink the kool aid and follow them blindly! Find out for your selves, what the HSUS is all about!!
VOTE NO ON PROP B!!!
Hazel

Memphis, TN

#1708 Oct 21, 2010
Minuteman wrote:
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Could be because HSUS and their supporters have been lying all along. The agenda of HSUS is questionable at the very least. There may be a few Vets in favor. Alot more are against prop B. Why refer you to # 8 and # 9 of the prop.
The facts are this prop does nothing to actually improve the quality of life for dogs. It does however put a higher burden on really good and good breeders who care about the quality of their animals. Note I said animals. Why? Because line nine refers to pets. Any domesticated animal normally maintained in or near the household of the owner thereof. Cattle, pigs, goats, chickens, turkeys, ducks, geese, all other birds, horses, mules, donkeys, etc. Can and do fall under this.
So please explain why if the facts have been pointed out to you. Why are you still voting yes?
The facts point more to a NO VOTE than a yes.
If you eat meat, drink milk, eat cheese. Your smart vote will be NO!
Just like telling a child which is doing something wrong. Or about getting into something dangerous.
NO NO NO
Prop B is wrong and dangerous!
Don't compare me to a child. I am more than capable of forming my own opinions and making my own decisions. I have read the facts. It is very clear to me that the positives by far outweigh the potential negatives. The facts point more to a YES than a NO.
Hazel

Memphis, TN

#1709 Oct 21, 2010
Adoptdogsonly wrote:
Dog breeders of any kind need to be stopped! Thousands of dogs in shelters need a good home. Why do we keep producing animals when we have plenty that already need a good home? Vote yes on Prop B!
I completely agree.
Katie

Kirksville, MO

#1710 Oct 21, 2010
Did anyone catch the radio show on 90.7 KWMU?
They had a veterinarian on with Barbara Schmitz.
He brought out alot of extremely valid points. She could not answer those points. Also a caller brought out another very good point and she totally evaded his question.
I think they said you could go on-line to KWMU and listen to it. Several listened to it and I think that a whole new light was shed on Prop B.
Shelley

Saint Louis, MO

#1711 Oct 21, 2010
HSUS SUCKS wrote:
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HSUS dos it all the time why not you? Like it is said in a comment before mine The vets association is against this so why would yours say yes? For the business?? That makes since. This affects the vets also in more ways. I dont see them voting yes on this bill and neither will I.
Vote NO on Prop B
Re: The Missouri Veterinarian Medical Association (MVMA) It is only the executive council for the association that decided to write against Proposition B, not the general body. And considering that the executive council is made up of some of the more agribusiness focused veterinarians in the state, the decision isn't surprising.

Among veterinarians directly, 143+ have sided with Proposition B, while only 19 have sided against Proposition B.
TIPSY

West Plains, MO

#1712 Oct 21, 2010
PATTY wrote:
<quoted text>Quite honestly, I would like to know what you believe to be acceptable,too. All that oppose Prop B, can any of you please explain to us what you deem responsible & acceptable breeding practices? Maybe we can find some common ground.
THEY CAN'T ANSWER THAT QUESTION, BECAUSE IT WOULD THEN BE A MATURE DEBATE OR THEY DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER AS THEY ALL RUN PUPPY MILLS!
aHHa

Irving, TX

#1713 Oct 21, 2010
Who cares????Stupid dogs!
Shelley

Saint Louis, MO

#1714 Oct 21, 2010
Katie wrote:
Did anyone catch the radio show on 90.7 KWMU?
They had a veterinarian on with Barbara Schmitz.
He brought out alot of extremely valid points. She could not answer those points. Also a caller brought out another very good point and she totally evaded his question.
I think they said you could go on-line to KWMU and listen to it. Several listened to it and I think that a whole new light was shed on Prop B.
Nothing on the front page, will check later.

However, I'm reminded of Christine O'Donnell and the Constitution question at her recent debate, and O'Donnell thinking she scored on Coons, when all she did was make a fool of herself.

People hear what they want to hear.
aHHa

Irving, TX

#1715 Oct 21, 2010
Less puppy mills and dog and cat owners is a good thing especially in urban and suburBAN AREAS..
quuphoop

Saint Joseph, MO

#1716 Oct 21, 2010
Shelley wrote:
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Re: The Missouri Veterinarian Medical Association (MVMA) It is only the executive council for the association that decided to write against Proposition B, not the general body. And considering that the executive council is made up of some of the more agribusiness focused veterinarians in the state, the decision isn't surprising.
Among veterinarians directly, 143+ have sided with Proposition B, while only 19 have sided against Proposition B.
Thats funny. I think you need to research your information before you put it out there. There are almost 2000 vets in this state and I know over 1200 are against prop b!

VOTE NO ON PROP B
Local HSUS

Warrenton, MO

#1717 Oct 21, 2010
No one believes all the bull shit you spray
The bill is straight forward there's no more to say
Please quit posting and save your breath
You'll lose the mill be stuck with just meth.
How about the old family still
Not enough money so you opened a mill
We know how you rednecks play in the hay and the grass.
Hmmmmm, Hmmmmmmm, Hmmmmmm sounds like American2, and Quuphoop are taking turns putting it in your ass.
Sorry about the vulgar speech
But you guy piss me off, living off us like a leech
Do you really want me to say all I can say
cause you guys are easy, I could do this all day
Katie

Kirksville, MO

#1718 Oct 21, 2010
Our vet indicated that there are over 2,700 licensed veterinarians in this state.
Most of those 143 are inner city. Who do you think they are going to side with?
The vet exposed Barbara Schmitz today. There was a caller who asked a very valid question and she totally avoided it. The vet gave a complete answer to the caller. She was asked by the vet to provide a tour of the HSUS kennel that has been built and the records of this kennel . No response from her.
K-9 friend

Faridabad, India

#1719 Oct 21, 2010
Adoptdogsonly wrote:
Dog breeders of any kind need to be stopped! Thousands of dogs in shelters need a good home. Why do we keep producing animals when we have plenty that already need a good home? Vote yes on Prop B!
Stray dog in the city limits ? HUMMMMM how many Licensedkennels are in the city limits? How many Licensed kennels are droping out puppies in the city limits ? or for that case in the country. if you answer this with a thry are, then give me the names of the kennels doing such.
Why are their stray dogs and cats and puppies and kittens in the cities ,,,,
NON RESPONCIBLE PET OWNERS!

Why dont ya blame the Licensed kennls for a few more things!

People get real !
Stop the lies dirrected on Good lawa abiding citizens , licensed regulated Kennels.

these people supporting Prop B want you the pet owners never to own another pet again no matter if it is a cat dog bird fish hampster what ever. Tell them to go away! Vote no Prop B
K-9 friend

Faridabad, India

#1720 Oct 21, 2010
Supose for one minute>

this bill passes and goes into law.
Who's going to enforce it?
Who isgoing to pay for the cost of enforcing it? YOU yes votes as well as the No votes.

Missouri will have to hire more inspectors and more people to shut donwthe so called puppy mills.
How are they going to fund it .

TAXES
guess what we have higher taxing comming when this bill passes.

HSUS fund it. Ha think again they will be off to the next state to do as they have been doing here.

VOTE NO on Prop. B
Shelley

Saint Louis, MO

#1721 Oct 21, 2010
quuphoop wrote:
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Thats funny. I think you need to research your information before you put it out there. There are almost 2000 vets in this state and I know over 1200 are against prop b!
VOTE NO ON PROP B
Prove it -- I want to see every last one of the 1200 vets explicitly saying they are against Proposition B.

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