2012 Lincoln County Elections

2012 Lincoln County Elections

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Accountability

United States

#1 Oct 10, 2011
The time for accountability is near. Soon many of this county's current and former elected leaders, along with their generational sycophants, will be called to account for the STUPID and INEPT decisions. The elections of 2012 are going to be UGLY!

These decisions have resulted in a nearly $1 million short-fall in the Lincoln County budget. A rapidly growing community, residentialy, with little new investment and NO expansion in the tax base.

Oh and before I forget, the voters who threw out P and Z, rejected the TDD in Troy and elected some of the incompetent BOOBS that pose as "leaders." My guess is even those who voted for Barack Obama in this county would NEVER publicly admit their mistakes.

Be prepared! You WILL be called to account for your arrogance, stupidity and shortsightedness. This should prove to be an interesting AND ugly election campaign!

Scorched earth is coming..........
Thetimehascom

Saint Louis, MO

#2 Oct 10, 2011
Who is up for re-election in 2012? I think the Sheriff is but who else?
Accountability

Wentzville, MO

#3 Oct 10, 2011
Thetimehascom wrote:
Who is up for re-election in 2012? I think the Sheriff is but who else?
Ed Schieffer, State Rep

Kevin Bishop, County Assessor

Mike Kriegbaum, County Sheriff

Matt Bass, County Commissioner

Jim Mays, County Commissioner

Multiple local municipal officials and school
board members.
Who is running

United States

#4 Oct 10, 2011
Accountability wrote:
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Ed Schieffer, State Rep
Kevin Bishop, County Assessor
Mike Kriegbaum, County Sheriff
Matt Bass, County Commissioner
Jim Mays, County Commissioner
Multiple local municipal officials and school
board members.
So these are the incumbants. Who are the challengers?
Accountability

Wentzville, MO

#5 Oct 10, 2011
Who is running wrote:
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So these are the incumbants. Who are the challengers?
Does not matter. Whomever it is, they had better be planning on doing a "scorched earth" campaign. Destroy all Good Ol Boys and take no prisoners. Hold this bunch of town clowns accountable for the stupid situation our county is in.

Nearly $1 million deficit. Lack of jobs, revenue and new businesses. These will be the MAIN campaign themes used, if the challengers hope to have a chance to win. No matter what and no matter who, this campagin promises to be VERY ugly. Opponents to growth don't have a leg to stand on and they will be stacked up like so much cord wood.
FAIR TAXATION

Troy, MO

#6 Oct 10, 2011
no-one knows who the challengers are yet as the new boundary lines havent been decided as yet.it seems it doesn't really matter in lincoln county because these incumbants have large campaign war chests and name recognition which seems to only matter here.
oh yeah

O Fallon, MO

#7 Oct 10, 2011
Accountability wrote:
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Does not matter. Whomever it is, they had better be planning on doing a "scorched earth" campaign. Destroy all Good Ol Boys and take no prisoners. Hold this bunch of town clowns accountable for the stupid situation our county is in.
Nearly $1 million deficit. Lack of jobs, revenue and new businesses. These will be the MAIN campaign themes used, if the challengers hope to have a chance to win. No matter what and no matter who, this campagin promises to be VERY ugly. Opponents to growth don't have a leg to stand on and they will be stacked up like so much cord wood.
I hate to burst your bubble, but there is no way a newbee will win an election here. So you might as well pack up and move to Wentzville now while they still have them free eggs.
Tax and Spend Bishop

Wentzville, MO

#8 Oct 10, 2011
Accountability wrote:
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Ed Schieffer, State Rep
Kevin Bishop, County Assessor
Mike Kriegbaum, County Sheriff
Matt Bass, County Commissioner
Jim Mays, County Commissioner
Multiple local municipal officials and school
board members.
Ed...No
Bonus Bishop....Hell No
Mike K.....Yes
Matt..... NO, but not because of his addiction
Jim Mays....NO
Multiple Stooges....NO
Accountability

Wentzville, MO

#9 Oct 10, 2011
oh yeah wrote:
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I hate to burst your bubble, but there is no way a newbee will win an election here. So you might as well pack up and move to Wentzville now while they still have them free eggs.
That's ok! When the community fails and the hoot-n-nanny hoedown music stops, who will be left without a chair?
Hey

Troy, MO

#10 Oct 11, 2011
I agree with your assessment. Ditto here.
Tax and Spend Bishop wrote:
<quoted text>
Ed...No
Bonus Bishop....Hell No
Mike K.....Yes
Matt..... NO, but not because of his addiction
Jim Mays....NO
Multiple Stooges....NO
Accountability

Wentzville, MO

#11 Oct 11, 2011
I see NONE of our current elected officials advocating for our citizens, families and community. Who, EXACTLY, is representing our interests in the STL Region, Jefferson City and Washington, D.C.? Since I/we already know the answer to that question, perhaps it is more rhetorical in nature than anything else.

Who will run for office that is willing to "put it on the line" and willing to say what needs to be said? Who is willing to look the Good Ol Boys in the eye tell them to shut-up and sit down?
Good Ole Boy

Old Monroe, MO

#12 Oct 11, 2011
I wouldn't vote for Krigbaum for dog-catcher.
YUP

Troy, MO

#13 Oct 12, 2011
Accountability wrote:
I see NONE of our current elected officials advocating for our citizens, families and community. Who, EXACTLY, is representing our interests in the STL Region, Jefferson City and Washington, D.C.? Since I/we already know the answer to that question, perhaps it is more rhetorical in nature than anything else.
Who will run for office that is willing to "put it on the line" and willing to say what needs to be said? Who is willing to look the Good Ol Boys in the eye tell them to shut-up and sit down?
No one on Topix will run because the would have to identify themselves and open themselves up to critisism and that is not as much fun as critisizing someone else.
Uranidiot

United States

#14 Oct 12, 2011
Of course you wouldnt, "good ol boy." Krigbaum rocked the good ol boy system and was the first to identify and call out the ol lincoln county commish as d-bags. Probably your buddies.
29 not 35

Old Monroe, MO

#15 Oct 13, 2011
Uranidiot wrote:
Of course you wouldnt, "good ol boy." Krigbaum rocked the good ol boy system and was the first to identify and call out the ol lincoln county commish as d-bags. Probably your buddies.
No, they weren't and aren't. I just know what kind of exorbitant budget the Sheriff's Office (not to mention the Prosecutor's Office) has become accustomed to over the years when your good ol' buddies' predecessors ran things. They even paid a part-time "County Counselor" over $150,000 a year for advice. Bloated and spoiled and lavish, and Krigbaum was demanding the same treatment for himself after the bubble burst.
Really

Troy, MO

#16 Oct 13, 2011
"Uranidiot" is right. Krigbaum has done a fair job considering the hand he was dealt. His complaint, if you would have followed, was that his department was the ONLY department forced with cuts. Of course, his budget would be the highest. They work 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, including holidays. No other department in the county does that. For this reason alone, it is the highest. Since all his cuts, Lincoln County is one of the few in the area where crime rate has risen dramatically. Hum...wonder why?? The article in last weeks Lincoln County Journal spoke clearly...out of 100 plus warrants in the Greater St. Louis area, around 30 were from Lincoln County. I understand cuts were necessary, but the leaders of this county need to prioritize their responsibilities. Pave a few more gravel roads or police protection....should be a no brainer.
Okay show me the money

United States

#17 Oct 13, 2011
Really wrote:
"Uranidiot" is right. Krigbaum has done a fair job considering the hand he was dealt. His complaint, if you would have followed, was that his department was the ONLY department forced with cuts. Of course, his budget would be the highest. They work 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, including holidays. No other department in the county does that. For this reason alone, it is the highest. Since all his cuts, Lincoln County is one of the few in the area where crime rate has risen dramatically. Hum...wonder why?? The article in last weeks Lincoln County Journal spoke clearly...out of 100 plus warrants in the Greater St. Louis area, around 30 were from Lincoln County. I understand cuts were necessary, but the leaders of this county need to prioritize their responsibilities. Pave a few more gravel roads or police protection....should be a no brainer.
To get what you and Sheriff Kriegbaum want, you have to have revenue. Before the prisoner's were pulled, they had the revenue. When they escaped, they got pulled. And that is Mr. Kriegbaum's fault....he's the Sheriff. Now that the prisoners are gone, they don't have the revenue...it's just that simple. BTW, roads are not getting paved as you suggest. You want more police protection? Simple, get the prisoners back and the revenue that goes with them, raise taxes or get commercial/industrial development to increase the tax base. It's just that simple.
Uranidiot

United States

#18 Oct 13, 2011
I dont entirely disagree with what you say, but compared to the last couple of sheriffs, I believe krigbaum has made a change for the better. I understand that their were mistakes, which costs. But I also have noticed that the department (at least from the outside) runs better and works better than in the past. I dont believe it is krigbaums responsibility to bring jobs and industry to lincoln county. That falls on the shoulders of others. If you check the budgets,.which I have, you will see that the sheriff was hit the hardest. I understand that money was lost when some of the prisoners were pulled, but it is my understanding that he has got some federal prisoners back. In addition what other department in Lincoln County is expected or even generates any revenue for the county. That is my issues. If cuts have to be made I, just as one citizen, feel it should be somewhere else. I honestly can not see how the Sheriff could cut more.
Okay show me the money

Moscow Mills, MO

#19 Oct 13, 2011
Uranidiot wrote:
I dont entirely disagree with what you say, but compared to the last couple of sheriffs, I believe krigbaum has made a change for the better. I understand that their were mistakes, which costs. But I also have noticed that the department (at least from the outside) runs better and works better than in the past. I dont believe it is krigbaums responsibility to bring jobs and industry to lincoln county. That falls on the shoulders of others. If you check the budgets,.which I have, you will see that the sheriff was hit the hardest. I understand that money was lost when some of the prisoners were pulled, but it is my understanding that he has got some federal prisoners back. In addition what other department in Lincoln County is expected or even generates any revenue for the county. That is my issues. If cuts have to be made I, just as one citizen, feel it should be somewhere else. I honestly can not see how the Sheriff could cut more.
The reason that the Sheriffs budget was hit so hard was because he had all the revenue from the prisoner's and was able to retain that revenue...it did not go back to the county general revenue pool. It was like living a lie, expecting that the revenue would always be there when in fact it could go away which it did. Now, he is faced with running the department with little to no revenue from the jail. Look at it this way, we were fooling ourselves that the dept. could run satisfactorily on the non-revenue budget....and now we know better. It's like the same thing with R-III. And it all comes down to tax base....that is the root of the issue and the solution to the problem. So again, the choice for Lincoln County is raise taxes,get the prisoner's back or increase the tax base. Further cuts and you might as well close the doors.
Uranidiot

United States

#20 Oct 13, 2011
Totally agree with you now. Amazing that we dis not turn to name calling and mud slinginf :)

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