For co-workers of injured officer, th...

For co-workers of injured officer, the 'job doesn't stop'

There are 22 comments on the The York Daily Record story from Apr 20, 2011, titled For co-workers of injured officer, the 'job doesn't stop'. In it, The York Daily Record reports that:

The support from the law enforcement community to Officer Michael Groff and the Northern York County Regional Police Department has been overwhelming, Chief Mark Bentzel said Wednesday.

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peace

York, PA

#1 Apr 20, 2011
So, when is this cop getting a ticket? Just like anyone of the masses would. That is unless cops are above the law.
He plowed into a truck in the middle of the morning---not too much traffic on 83 during that time. He was not paying attention and NOT ONE of his fellow cops are coming forward stating this.
If the cop plowed into a family, killing them all---would that still be okay? Justice is justice and cops must follow the same rules as the taxpayer--as the taxpayers pay them, and that means even if their buddy, pal, friend, fellow cop did something wrong, do not hide it, do not cover it up, but act upon it. You police would have far more respect. Remember, you are employed by and for the taxpayer.
finish the investigation

Red Lion, PA

#3 Apr 20, 2011
How about waiting until all the facts are gathered by PSP before judging. That is the way the police handle accidents. They have to investigate the accident which takes time. They don't just go to an accident and say "oh, this person hit the other person, must be his fault". No, they gather ALL information from ALL involved. PSP (state troopers) do a good job and are by the book. I am sure that if it is the Officers fault, they will say so and deal with it. But give them a chance to finish the investigation before you decide to hang the Officer.
Nuts

Swarthmore, PA

#4 Apr 20, 2011
peace wrote:
So, when is this cop getting a ticket? Just like anyone of the masses would. That is unless cops are above the law.
He plowed into a truck in the middle of the morning---not too much traffic on 83 during that time. He was not paying attention and NOT ONE of his fellow cops are coming forward stating this.
If the cop plowed into a family, killing them all---would that still be okay? Justice is justice and cops must follow the same rules as the taxpayer--as the taxpayers pay them, and that means even if their buddy, pal, friend, fellow cop did something wrong, do not hide it, do not cover it up, but act upon it. You police would have far more respect. Remember, you are employed by and for the taxpayer.
Typical response from an uneducated low life. You know nothing about how the accident happened or why but you are automatically blaming the officer. It's no wonder cops hate people like yourself. And as far as working for the "taxpayers" give us your address and we'll send your 25 cents back.
Dr Mengele

Mount Wolf, PA

#5 Apr 20, 2011
So, he completed ARD. Then they were obviously profiling him.Oh,thats right he's white.
peace

York, PA

#6 Apr 20, 2011
Nuts wrote:
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Typical response from an uneducated low life. You know nothing about how the accident happened or why but you are automatically blaming the officer. It's no wonder cops hate people like yourself. And as far as working for the "taxpayers" give us your address and we'll send your 25 cents back.
No, keep it and use it to work on that GED you never received! Because of this reckless cop, my taxes are going to go up as there will be a lawsuit, and rightfully so! Once more, you can add that .25 to your GED fund!
fred

Gettysburg, PA

#7 Apr 20, 2011
finish the investigation wrote:
How about waiting until all the facts are gathered by PSP before judging. That is the way the police handle accidents. They have to investigate the accident which takes time. They don't just go to an accident and say "oh, this person hit the other person, must be his fault". No, they gather ALL information from ALL involved. PSP (state troopers) do a good job and are by the book. I am sure that if it is the Officers fault, they will say so and deal with it. But give them a chance to finish the investigation before you decide to hang the Officer.
Let's just hope the PSP investigates fairly and without bias for 'one of their own.' Even tho the 'person in the back seat' may not take to court for a criminal action, I bet the lawyers are thinking civil malfeasance and negligence.
Nuts

Swarthmore, PA

#8 Apr 20, 2011
peace wrote:
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No, keep it and use it to work on that GED you never received! Because of this reckless cop, my taxes are going to go up as there will be a lawsuit, and rightfully so! Once more, you can add that .25 to your GED fund!
Wow, you sure put me in my place. I'm glad you had to mention the 25 cents twice so I could understand. In a way it's a good thing that low life scumbags like yourself have a place to vent like this blog. That way your are in your dingy basement on your computer instead of out in public wasting good oxygen that a productive member of society could be using.
Anonymous

Lancaster, PA

#9 Apr 21, 2011
peace wrote:
So, when is this cop getting a ticket? Just like anyone of the masses would. That is unless cops are above the law.
He plowed into a truck in the middle of the morning---not too much traffic on 83 during that time. He was not paying attention and NOT ONE of his fellow cops are coming forward stating this.
If the cop plowed into a family, killing them all---would that still be okay? Justice is justice and cops must follow the same rules as the taxpayer--as the taxpayers pay them, and that means even if their buddy, pal, friend, fellow cop did something wrong, do not hide it, do not cover it up, but act upon it. You police would have far more respect. Remember, you are employed by and for the taxpayer.
BRAVO, FOR SAYING WHAT ALOT OF PEOPLE ARE THINKING, BUT TO AFRAID TO SAY THEMSELVES, BUT I TOTALLY AGREE WITH EVERYTHING YOU HAVE SAID, AND IT MAKES ME VERY SAD, THE COPS TODAY ARE FROM THE POLICE OFFICERS FROM THE 70'S THRU THE 90'S, MY FATHER USED TO BE ONE OF THOSE OFFICERS, THEY CARED ABOUT WHAT WAS IMPORTANT, THE POEPLE OF YORK, NOW THE YOUNG COPS TODAY THINK JUST BECAUSE SOME ??? HANDS THEM A BADGE AND GUN, THEY SOME HOW TURN INTO GODS, AND THINK THEY ARE ABOVE THE LAW, THAT THEY CAN DO ANYTHING THEY WANT AND MAYBE GET A SLAP ON THE WRIST, IF THAT !!! WHY DONT THEY JUST TELL THE TRUE AS TO WHAT REALLY HAPPENED, WHY WASNT THAT COP WATCHING WHERE HE WAS GOING ?????????? SIGNED VERY ANGRY YORKER
Above the Law

East Berlin, PA

#10 Apr 21, 2011
Nuts wrote:
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Typical response from an uneducated low life. You know nothing about how the accident happened or why but you are automatically blaming the officer. It's no wonder cops hate people like yourself. And as far as working for the "taxpayers" give us your address and we'll send your 25 cents back.
Im also an uneducated low life, but what exactly are the facts. There has been a complete lack of facts released. Here's how I see it. Officer Groff transporting a "DUI suspect," driving excessivly fast trying to get to the hospital, being more concerned with "getting the DUI" risked his own safety, safety of fellow drivers, and safety of his passenger.
How fast do you have to be going to run into the back of a moving vehicle and knock out all the lights of your vehicle and the other vehicle. Officer Groff is most likely at fault. If he is not charged with a crime of some sort, I will lose what little respect I have for the Northern Regional Police Department.
You are a fool

Harrisburg, PA

#11 Apr 21, 2011
Above the Law wrote:
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Im also an uneducated low life, but what exactly are the facts. There has been a complete lack of facts released. Here's how I see it. Officer Groff transporting a "DUI suspect," driving excessivly fast trying to get to the hospital, being more concerned with "getting the DUI" risked his own safety, safety of fellow drivers, and safety of his passenger.
How fast do you have to be going to run into the back of a moving vehicle and knock out all the lights of your vehicle and the other vehicle. Officer Groff is most likely at fault. If he is not charged with a crime of some sort, I will lose what little respect I have for the Northern Regional Police Department.
You state that you don't know the facts. So why do you assume the truck was moving? How do you know the box truck wasn't disabled in the lane with no lights on? So if it is sitting still and he's going the speed limit, it's 65 at the location. The impact speed would be 65. If the truck is going the speed limit and he's going say 90 the impact speed is 35. Which is going to do more damage? He's "most likely" at fault in your mind. You fail to consider any other possiblility. Why would you loose respect for NYRPD if he's not charged? They aren't doing the investigation, you're not able to understand even the simplest of facts which are available. The determination to charge him or not will most surely come from the DA's office after the STATE POLICE complete their investigaiton. Secondary to your uninformed, close minded, arm chair investigation is the fact that wheter or not he is charged with something is the fact that both of these indivduals are humans and have lives. I'm quite certain that the greater concern for both of them is wheter or not they will survive to lead normal lives. Accountability to York County taxpayers which it seems you are not, is secondary to quality of life and survival of BOTH VICTIMS.
reap

AOL

#12 Apr 21, 2011
I really wish people would stop placing blame on anybody right now and atleast wait until the facts are actually released. The only people who know what happened are the ones involved. As for a lot of the stuff about how horrible these cops are. I have had to deal with these cops a few times in the last couple of years and I have to say everyone I've dealt with has been very nice and has actually done their job. I know there are bad one's, I myself have gotten pulled over for no reason at 3 in the morning and yeah I was irritated but my guess is there was a car early in the morning with young people in it on a weekend, probably thought I had been drinking, I wasn't so I was fine. I've lost friends to drunk driving and I would have rather seen them get arrested then have died. I also know someone who constantly drinks and drives and has gotten aressted several times for it and always just gets probation, even after punching a cop. That is a person who should be in jail before he kills somebody. As for the passenger, I am from York Haven but I don't know him. But the paper is going to dig up past stuff on everybody, thats what they do. Having gone through ARD he should have known better then to do it again, but that happens to a lot of people. I hope they both make full recoveries, it's amazing to me that they survived having seen that car.
Above the Law

East Berlin, PA

#13 Apr 21, 2011
You are a fool wrote:
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You state that you don't know the facts. So why do you assume the truck was moving? How do you know the box truck wasn't disabled in the lane with no lights on? So if it is sitting still and he's going the speed limit, it's 65 at the location. The impact speed would be 65. If the truck is going the speed limit and he's going say 90 the impact speed is 35. Which is going to do more damage? He's "most likely" at fault in your mind. You fail to consider any other possiblility. Why would you loose respect for NYRPD if he's not charged? They aren't doing the investigation, you're not able to understand even the simplest of facts which are available. The determination to charge him or not will most surely come from the DA's office after the STATE POLICE complete their investigaiton. Secondary to your uninformed, close minded, arm chair investigation is the fact that wheter or not he is charged with something is the fact that both of these indivduals are humans and have lives. I'm quite certain that the greater concern for both of them is wheter or not they will survive to lead normal lives. Accountability to York County taxpayers which it seems you are not, is secondary to quality of life and survival of BOTH VICTIMS.
Well, I guess we will just have to wait for the facts to come out. But, even with my so called arm chair investigation, I have a good feeling it was the officer's fault. I mean I have never passed a disabled or slow moving vehicle on a 4 lane highway. Also, are they both human, because I just keep hearing there is a "hero" and a "suspect."
Wait for the findings

York, PA

#14 Apr 21, 2011
Above the Law wrote:
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Well, I guess we will just have to wait for the facts to come out. But, even with my so called arm chair investigation, I have a good feeling it was the officer's fault. I mean I have never passed a disabled or slow moving vehicle on a 4 lane highway. Also, are they both human, because I just keep hearing there is a "hero" and a "suspect."
You should have saved you idiotic suppositions for Monday morning! Never heard of a THURSDAY MORNING QUARTERBACK! But quite obviously, from reading these posts, you are not alone. We could care less about your or anyone elses suppositions! At present, there is an ongoing investigating taking place by a very competent staff from the PSP. There ARE (past/present/future) those that will always be doubters regardless of their or anyone elses findings on any and all subjects. There are even doubters as to what happened a "few years ago" on tomorrows Good Friday (also your choice)! Fortunately for many of you, do you realize how lucky you are to be livin' in the U.S. of A.; otherwise, many would have been put out of their misery a long, long time ago. Allow the investigation to take its course; regardless of your likes/dislikes. And it shall pass, for SOME! PEACE!!!
You are a fool

Harrisburg, PA

#15 Apr 21, 2011
Above the Law wrote:
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Well, I guess we will just have to wait for the facts to come out. But, even with my so called arm chair investigation, I have a good feeling it was the officer's fault. I mean I have never passed a disabled or slow moving vehicle on a 4 lane highway. Also, are they both human, because I just keep hearing there is a "hero" and a "suspect."
A real investigator considers all possibilites and keeps an open mind until the physical and circumstantial evidence shapes a picture of what truly occurred. You're not the investigator and I highly doubt that you are an accident reconstructionist. All you could possibly be going by are pictures you've seen of the scene. Which would tell you little even if you were a certified reconstructionist. You've never passed a disabled or slow moving vehicle on a 4 way highway? Really? So in your mind that makes it impossible? You have a "good feeling?" That's not proof beyond a reasonable doubt now is it. I never called anyone a hero or a suspect. I merely pointed out that you are a fool for suggesting it must be the officer's fault which you base on no appreciable facts, but rather your own impressions developed from a few pictures and an appearent dislike of law enforcement.
fred

Gettysburg, PA

#16 Apr 21, 2011
I can't wait for the 'unbiased police report.' I don't know how the back seat passenger became a 'suspect.'(Has he had problems with the police before?) All I do know is that we have a person in the hospital who is innocent until proven guilty delivered via what appears to be a negligent young cop who most of you want to be annointed and given the path to martyrdom. For you lovers of the cop, wait until the report comes out.
Zappa

Downingtown, PA

#17 Apr 28, 2011
The real question is.....
Will we ever find out the results????
Greg

Huntingdon Valley, PA

#18 Apr 28, 2011
fred wrote:
I can't wait for the 'unbiased police report.' I don't know how the back seat passenger became a 'suspect.'(Has he had problems with the police before?) All I do know is that we have a person in the hospital who is innocent until proven guilty delivered via what appears to be a negligent young cop who most of you want to be annointed and given the path to martyrdom. For you lovers of the cop, wait until the report comes out.
He became a suspect by failing a soberity test and the strong odor of alcohol on his breath. He was released fromthe hospital shortly after (the next day) the accident. The police officer was protecting innocent drivers on the road from someone who appeared to be a threat! It has nothing to do with being a cop lover, its called respect!
WTF

Jersey City, NJ

#19 Apr 29, 2011
That's just part of the job....
fred

United States

#20 Apr 30, 2011
Greg wrote:
<quoted text>He became a suspect by failing a soberity test and the strong odor of alcohol on his breath. He was released fromthe hospital shortly after (the next day) the accident. The police officer was protecting innocent drivers on the road from someone who appeared to be a threat! It has nothing to do with being a cop lover, its called respect!
...and you know he failed a soberity (your spelling) and the strong odor of alcohol. Was this in a preliminary PSP report given to you? Will you respect the cop if a when he is found guilty? I think all cops should drive like a bat out of hell because they feel they should have been somewhere yesterday.
Really Greg

Manchester, PA

#21 May 1, 2011
Greg wrote:
<quoted text>He became a suspect by failing a soberity test and the strong odor of alcohol on his breath. He was released fromthe hospital shortly after (the next day) the accident. The police officer was protecting innocent drivers on the road from someone who appeared to be a threat! It has nothing to do with being a cop lover, its called respect!
Really Greg?? He was released from the hospital the next day? lol
And you have the paperwork on his release? Yeah, thats right you don't. He was seriously injured and will suffer a long time from his injuries. Next time,, Tell the truth and not bogus Lies on this forum

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