trinity county deer season

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red dawn

Crosby, TX

#1 Sep 8, 2010
that 13 inch spread rule really sucks--- the locals have shot anything that is big enough to walk for generations.-- this rule will only effect the people that will obey it.-- I have spent lots of time and money on my property and leased land , building up the deer herd, now i am told that only one decent buck can be shot, the other has to be a spike or, spike with only one branch on one side.---this spike shooting thing is nuts, there will be a slaughter of little spikes, with horns barely breaking thru the skin. insanity that is your future deer herd. last year this BS law was in effect-- I was shooting cull bucks, a 8 point walks out, comes up close to the stand- has horns out pass the ears, like the illustration of a legal buck in the state game book. shot him, then measured the horns-- 13 and one quarter-- very close to illegal. so the way of judging horn width in the manual is BS. guess you have to get them to stand still while you go out and measure their horns. so from now on, will be shooting the really big boys.-- these laws I am told are to improve the herd, and reduce the doe to buck ratio. BS-- if that is the plan a better rule would be one buck 4 point or better, and raise the doe limit from 2 to 3-- that does what the plan wants to do, raises the amount of bucks, and lowers doe count. all the MEAT hunters get the same amount of freezer meat, and the people shooting bucks, stand a lot better chance of not shooting illegal size bucks.-----not that any of this will make any difference in east texas, where the local outlaws hunt 365 days a year, shoot anything big enough to walk, day and night.
DeerHunter

Huntsville, TX

#2 Sep 8, 2010
Trophy hunting is also a problem. MLD and Lamps is nothing but legalize poaching. Shoot 2 bucks and 2 does, same law for everyone not just the people with money, hell look how many Ted Nugent harvest a year in Texas. I knew a person that shot 15 deer one year because of MLD tags and game ranches are allow to shoot bucks that are so call cull bucks and gun hunt from Oct---Feb. What is a poor man to do.
Gal who hunts

Dallas, TX

#3 Nov 11, 2010
I hate the fact that once you kill one buck you are done. I'm not interested in shooting a doe unless someone specifically asks me to for deer meat. I shot a decent buck by the ear sign, and he, too, was just over 13 1/2. A mature buck is not going to give you time to measure, that's how he got to be mature. And what about those high horned monsters out there that grew that way because of the dense woods? They have mass, but they sometimes aren't 13.
red dawn

Crosby, TX

#4 Nov 11, 2010
it is your government making wise decisions and taking care of you, yeah right.
Mean Mr Mustard

United States

#5 Nov 11, 2010
A spike buck usually will not ever develop a typical rack, instead all they do is keep breeding and passing their bad genes on to the next generation.

The reason the 13" rule was instituted was because too many hunters were shooting 1-2 year old six points before they had a chance to mature. The new rule forces hunters to take out the older deer and the young culls.

Yeah it kinda sucks having to stare at their antlers and ears for a few seconds before squeezing off but if people get with the program in the end the whole region will have a better genetic pool because of it.

Granted there will always be people who shoot whatever they want and damn the rules, but I know several people who got big fat tickets this year already for shooting illegal deer. Give it time and suck it up and in 5-10 years the difference in the deer you see will be dramatic. Bucks will be bigger and the health of the entire herd will have improved. Remember a buck with a genetically inferior rack (spikes, no brow tines, etc.) is an indicator that it has other genetic problems as well
red dawn

Crosby, TX

#6 Nov 12, 2010
it is true a (LONG ) horned spike will never amount to much and needs to be removed from breeding. the problem is MANY hunters will be shooting little young spikes, with horns just barely breaking the skin. there is NO WAY to tell on a buck that young how they will turn out. yeah here we go with the tape measure thing again but there should be a rule that a spike has to be a minimumn of so many inchs to be legal. how many inchs?? hell I do not know, let the brilliant ones at fish and game figure out at what length a spike SHOULD start to show other points on the horns, shooting these litte milk sucker baby bucks is insanity, this is the future breeding bucks. the locals open deer season about the first of october and hunt thru about march, IF fish and game actually wanted to help the deer herd they could just drive out into the country and listen at all the shooting before and after season, then go see what the shooting is about. it sounds like a war in the woods 6 months out of the year.
red dawn

Crosby, TX

#7 Nov 12, 2010
IF a person really cares about the deer herd, and wants to help out, there is a fish and game program called operation game thief, where there is a reward for turning in poachers. there are long time famous game hog poachers here locally, everyone knows who they are. actually the night hunting road hunting poaching game hogs, are doing more damage to the deer herd , than legal hunters shooting 2 and 3 year old bucks.
Deerhunter

Buffalo, TX

#8 Nov 12, 2010
Mean Mr Mustard wrote:
A spike buck usually will not ever develop a typical rack, instead all they do is keep breeding and passing their bad genes on to the next generation.
The reason the 13" rule was instituted was because too many hunters were shooting 1-2 year old six points before they had a chance to mature. The new rule forces hunters to take out the older deer and the young culls.
Yeah it kinda sucks having to stare at their antlers and ears for a few seconds before squeezing off but if people get with the program in the end the whole region will have a better genetic pool because of it.
Granted there will always be people who shoot whatever they want and damn the rules, but I know several people who got big fat tickets this year already for shooting illegal deer. Give it time and suck it up and in 5-10 years the difference in the deer you see will be dramatic. Bucks will be bigger and the health of the entire herd will have improved. Remember a buck with a genetically inferior rack (spikes, no brow tines, etc.) is an indicator that it has other genetic problems as well
I see your point, but game ranches are allow to shoot deer that will never get 13 in. and we should not have different programs for different folks, just one state wide, I know someone who shot 13 deer on the mld program...also would you rather eat a 2 1/2 year old deer or 6 1/2 year old deer...
Mean Mr Mustard

United States

#9 Nov 12, 2010
red dawn wrote:
IF a person really cares about the deer herd, and wants to help out, there is a fish and game program called operation game thief, where there is a reward for turning in poachers. there are long time famous game hog poachers here locally, everyone knows who they are. actually the night hunting road hunting poaching game hogs, are doing more damage to the deer herd , than legal hunters shooting 2 and 3 year old bucks.
Hogs are not game animals and you can hunt them legally year round day or night.
Mean Mr Mustard

United States

#10 Nov 12, 2010
Deerhunter wrote:
<quoted text>I see your point, but game ranches are allow to shoot deer that will never get 13 in. and we should not have different programs for different folks, just one state wide, I know someone who shot 13 deer on the mld program...also would you rather eat a 2 1/2 year old deer or 6 1/2 year old deer...
Texas is a very large state with many different ecoregions, what works in Trinity county won't necessarily work in Llano county.

In terms of eating bucks, in my opinion it doesn't matter how old he is, if you shoot him in the rut, it's gotta be made into sausage of chili meat, cause no matter how long you bleed it and cut out the glands it still stinks.
Deerhunter

Buffalo, TX

#11 Nov 12, 2010
You are right, maybe not state wide, but each region should have the same rules no matter who you are in the world If Bubba can start to gun hunt at a given time so should every one else, as eating deer goes---- the older the bucks are in rut the worse the meat is, I have harvest really old bucks in rut---bad meat...deer chili does sounds mighty good...good luck hunting...
Deermeat

United States

#12 Nov 12, 2010
Give the law 4 year, and you will not worry about the deer being 13".
red dawn

Crosby, TX

#13 Nov 12, 2010
MR mustard my reference to (game hogs) does NOT mean actual (PIGS) It is a reference to a local a local BUBBA that shoots deer day and night 365 days a year. the type that the only thing that matters is body count. one that comes to mind has the nickname BOOGER once told me ---if it is big enough to walk, it is big enough to die. well ole BOOGER lives pretty close to my property, and we had that chat about BOOGER will not like it if caught on my land,
red dawn

Crosby, TX

#14 Nov 12, 2010
how do YOU like the cost of your deer hunting ammo????????. looked at a big academy store. it was incredible, what is really good is the difference in cost between a so called premium bullet and a common remingtom core lock. the premium bullet is only a few cents difference per round than a remington, but the manufacturer wants double price for the so called premium bullet ammo. well HELLO there is NO need for premium bullets for shooting TEXAS deer. if a remington core lock will not kill a little TEXAS deer, then there is something terribly wrong with your shooting, as in missing completely.
Deerhunter

Buffalo, TX

#15 Nov 12, 2010
red dawn wrote:
how do YOU like the cost of your deer hunting ammo????????. looked at a big academy store. it was incredible, what is really good is the difference in cost between a so called premium bullet and a common remingtom core lock. the premium bullet is only a few cents difference per round than a remington, but the manufacturer wants double price for the so called premium bullet ammo. well HELLO there is NO need for premium bullets for shooting TEXAS deer. if a remington core lock will not kill a little TEXAS deer, then there is something terribly wrong with your shooting, as in missing completely.
Why worry about the cost, 20 bullets---5 seasons---20 deer, then if you bow hunt or black powder maybe 10 seasons, my lessons will only cost you a couple of hunts...Learn from the Best...
Deerhunter

Buffalo, TX

#16 Nov 12, 2010
Deermeat wrote:
Give the law 4 year, and you will not worry about the deer being 13".
Because if you are on a MLD or so called game ranch you can shoot smaller bucks, one rule for everybody...
red dawn

Crosby, TX

#17 Nov 12, 2010
A MLD is a big joke, it is not hunting, they have a tame hand raised corn fed bambi all picked out for you. hell they might as well have him cut wrapped and frozen when you arrive.
Deerhunter

Buffalo, TX

#18 Nov 12, 2010
red dawn wrote:
A MLD is a big joke, it is not hunting, they have a tame hand raised corn fed bambi all picked out for you. hell they might as well have him cut wrapped and frozen when you arrive.
It is not fair if bubba kill a big deer and I didn't, so I want a 13 in. for everyone, so I can kill one too...mean while I have a lot of money so I can make the rules...
red dawn

Crosby, TX

#19 Nov 12, 2010
DEERHUNTER the rich have always made the hunting rules, thats why ROBIN HOOD was a poacher in the kings forest.
GET REAL

Centerville, TX

#20 Nov 13, 2010
I hunt in Houston county and all of you belly achers will be eating crow in a few seasons. After 4 seasons of antler restrictions there is a noticeable difference in the deer herd. Not only do me and all my friends see more bucks but we see better bucks regularly. It is nice that now a 1.5 yo 6 or even 8 point will have a chance to grow into a real trophy. A 4 point rule is dumb IMO. I have seen and passed 1.5 yo basket 8 points (awesome genes) a number of times but they would be legal with a 4 point rule.

Stop crying and go hunt! Yes bubba will still kill whatever but when he gets hit with the $2500 fine (what I heard it was) then he will think twice before doing it.

BTW, I do think MLD is a load of crap!

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