Haley: Drug test the unemployed getti...

Haley: Drug test the unemployed getting benefits

There are 18 comments on the The State story from Oct 5, 2010, titled Haley: Drug test the unemployed getting benefits. In it, The State reports that:

South Carolina's more than 236,000 unemployed workers could have to take a drug test in order to receive jobless benefits, according to a proposal by Republican gubernatorial candidate Nikki Haley Tuesday.

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Ho Lee Schitt

Pennington, NJ

#1 Oct 6, 2010
I was not aware that the misfortune of losing a job requires an unemployed person to surrender their fourth amendment rights! I wonder how much this guy is being paid by the drug testing 'industry.' Workers PAY for those benefits and don't need some self righteous right winger harassing them!

Since: Dec 08

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#2 Oct 21, 2010
Agreed, a lot of SC politicians are a bunch of self-righteous hypocrites that has no respect for the Bill of Rights! I'm so glad I left that "third world" state!
Silent Observer

Pendleton, SC

#3 Oct 22, 2010
If someone has a job in most cases a drug test is required at some point to get hired/or maintain employment. People getting unemployment are getting tax dollars to help them until they find a new job. I see no reasaon for them to not get drug tested to receive those benefits...surely they are not on drugs since they are "looking" for a job anyway....what is there to be afraid of??!?! Even Mcdonalds drug tests.

Since: Dec 08

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#4 Oct 22, 2010
The point is, it is a clear violation of the Fourth Amendment whether you have a job or not. Why should someone be treated like a criminal when he or she has not done anything in the first place or has been found guilty in the court of law. You give them an inch then next thing you know they will be wanting to come into to your own house.

Since: Dec 08

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#5 Oct 26, 2010
Silent Observer wrote:
If someone has a job in most cases a drug test is required at some point to get hired/or maintain employment. People getting unemployment are getting tax dollars to help them until they find a new job. I see no reasaon for them to not get drug tested to receive those benefits...surely they are not on drugs since they are "looking" for a job anyway....what is there to be afraid of??!?! Even Mcdonalds drug tests.
BTW guess who pays for those drug tests, the taxpayers! Each drug test will cost somewhere around a hundred dollars & multiply that times the people who are on welfare not to mention paying for welfare itself. So it will cost us, the tax-payers more in the long run to drug test people getting welfare.
Silent Observer

Pendleton, SC

#6 Oct 29, 2010
I do not agree that this is a violation of the 4th amendment...no one is or would be under the scrutiny of prosecution if they failed a drug test for employment or to get unemployment benefits. In the workplace it is a liability issue due to workmans compensation insurance. For unemployment benefits it would be to ensure that someone is employable, and is not abusing the system.

Since: Dec 08

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#7 Oct 30, 2010
The companies that give drug tests pays for them. If they were to give drug test for people seeking unemployment,guess who has to pay, we the tax payer. Would you be willing to pay $100 for each drug test for millions of people who are claiming unemployment?

Since: Jul 10

United States

#8 Nov 2, 2010
It's cheaper to pay a one time $100 bucks than to pay unemployment benefits for months and months to a person who can't get a job because they cant pass a drug test. They should drug test anyone who is on government assistance.

Since: Dec 08

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#9 Nov 2, 2010
puji wrote:
It's cheaper to pay a one time $100 bucks than to pay unemployment benefits for months and months to a person who can't get a job because they cant pass a drug test. They should drug test anyone who is on government assistance.
If they pass it they you would be $100 bucks less that could go for something else.
Silent Observer

Pendleton, SC

#10 Nov 3, 2010
I too would rather see the government pay 100 dollars per person on unemployment to drug test rather than pay unemployment benefits to those who cannot pass one therefore cannot get a job.

Since: Dec 08

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#11 Nov 3, 2010
Silent Observer wrote:
I too would rather see the government pay 100 dollars per person on unemployment to drug test rather than pay unemployment benefits to those who cannot pass one therefore cannot get a job.
Factor in the cost to pay lawyers because you know that a lot of these welfare people will be taking this all the way to the Supreme Court with appeals & that will cost us the tax-payer also. I am all for welfare reform & even ending it for people who are able-bodied to work but drug testing people getting welfare will just cost us the tax-payer even more in the long run. You would also have more people on the government payroll to administer these drug tests & that would just increase the size of government & with that you might see higher taxes.

Since: Dec 08

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#12 Nov 3, 2010
Also, what about the ones who get "corporate welfare?" The CEOS who had received government assistance in the form of tax-payer funded bailouts?
After all, welfare is welfare.
Silent Observer

Pendleton, SC

#13 Nov 9, 2010
now you are grabbing at straws with the bailouts...I am not a supporter of them but I would bet at some point in their careers those CEO's passed a drug test....any case as this would not or at least should not reach the Supreme Court since it has not legal standing! no 4th amendment violation since it is not being used in a criminal sense.

Since: Jun 10

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#14 Nov 12, 2010
blacklabel wrote:
Also, what about the ones who get "corporate welfare?" The CEOS who had received government assistance in the form of tax-payer funded bailouts?
After all, welfare is welfare.
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Yeah, I would like to know if they would be required to take drug tests, better yet, make all politicians take drugs test since they are being paid by taxpayers dollars, start with governor (wouldn't dare mention her maiden name while running for office in South Carolina/hiding behind her husband's Anglo name) Haley.
Bobbie

Fair Play, SC

#15 Nov 12, 2010
I'll tell you a better way to fix welfare.CUT IT OUT. Let these people support theirselves & the choices they make.I do agree some people really needs help.But they are the ones that can't get help. These are the people that has worked until they are unable to work anymore.These people lay up & have one baby after the other,needs to support theirselves.It is not up to tax payer's to support your kid's.Where are the daddy's of these kid's? When is his responsibility going to kick in?Our constitution says," No man sholud have to support a family he did'nt make."Thats paying for something you don't have. Welfare WAS NOT meant for people to live on," because they chose to have kid's."It was invented to give a helping hand when you'er down on your luck.Just temporary.Get off your lazy tails & go to work & support your own kid's.Its not our job to do it.

“Know Nukes”

Since: Feb 09

So Cal

#16 Nov 13, 2010
Ho Lee Schitt wrote:
I was not aware that the misfortune of losing a job requires an unemployed person to surrender their fourth amendment rights! I wonder how much this guy is being paid by the drug testing 'industry.' Workers PAY for those benefits and don't need some self righteous right winger harassing them!
No one is forcing anyone to surrender their 4th amendment rights. But unemployment benefits come with the string that one must be actively seeking employment. If you're doing drugs, you're not looking hard enough. If you're receiving unemployment benefits and doing drugs, where are you getting the money to buy them? Do you think it's a constitutional right that I (a taxpayer) buy your drugs?

Since: Jun 10

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#17 Nov 16, 2010
puji wrote:
It's cheaper to pay a one time $100 bucks than to pay unemployment benefits for months and months to a person who can't get a job because they cant pass a drug test. They should drug test anyone who is on go
government assistance.
__________
Unemployment benefits are not 'government assistance' in the same way as welfare is. Employees who qualify for unemployment benefits are receiving compensation to cover basic needs while they look for work, which means that they have to have a work history in the first place before they can even qualify for benefits.
Unemployment benefits fall under the Social Security Act, where employers pay into a pool (pay insurance) in exchange for not having to have to pay laid off or wrongfully terminated employees out of pocket.
dmf

United States

#18 Nov 19, 2010
better idea.
Offer welfare recipients a choice of cash or dope.
If they chose dope then they may start selling it. then they will be earning money and that will have a positive impact on the economy.

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