Oregon bus driver suspended for Confe...

Oregon bus driver suspended for Confederate flag

There are 259 comments on the TwinCities.com story from Mar 3, 2011, titled Oregon bus driver suspended for Confederate flag. In it, TwinCities.com reports that:

An Oregon school bus driver has been suspended for refusing to remove a Confederate flag from his personal vehicle.

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Since: Sep 11

Rogers, MN

#91 Jul 12, 2012
For the most part, the days of walking in to the mechanics shop and seeing his office walls lined with centerfolds are gone. Not because of a desire to be appropriate but rather a desire to not be sued by some whiny person who is "offended".
You are correct in your assertion that, right or wrong, your rights stop at your employers door. Most of them anyway. But what you do on your own time is none of their business.
cantmakeitup

Minneapolis, MN

#92 Jul 12, 2012
milwaukee69 wrote:
To cement my earlier statement, if a company, especially one in the public sector, chooses to adopt a policy that prohibits "potentially offensive" products, stickers, posters, etc., then that is their perogative. Your freedom of speech pretty much stops when you punch the clock. Face it folks, there is a limitation to freedom. Freedom to walk is sometimes your only choice. The Confederate flag is really not the issue here - what is the issue is the fact that there are a lot of limitations that companies are putting on their employees nowadays. Political affiliations, offensive and sexist materials, language, violence in the workplace - crap I could go on and on. Bottom line is that if you're in disagreement over this, before you waste your money on a lawsuit, find out what it's like on the other side of the company fence. Maybe then it'll start making sense.
For the most part, the days of walking in to the mechanics shop and seeing his office walls lined with centerfolds are gone. Not because of a desire to be appropriate but rather a desire to not be sued by some whiny person who is "offended".
You are correct in your assertion that, right or wrong, your rights stop at your employers door. Most of them anyway. But what you do on your own time is none of their business.

“I know where you are,”

Since: Jun 08

Right here under my thumb

#93 Jul 12, 2012
cantmakeitup wrote:
For the most part, the days of walking in to the mechanics shop and seeing his office walls lined with centerfolds are gone. Not because of a desire to be appropriate but rather a desire to not be sued by some whiny person who is "offended".
You are correct in your assertion that, right or wrong, your rights stop at your employers door. Most of them anyway. But what you do on your own time is none of their business.
Precisely my point. This was a school bus driver who was suspended - perhaps the folks on the school board had something to do with this, maybe just the company. Here in Wisconsin, the school bus companies adopt a really strict list of restrictions on their drivers - and rightly so - afterall it's our kids they're totin' around. But I'm almost positive I've seen at least one Confederate flag sticker on a school bus just outside of Atlanta, so I guess it kinda' goes with the territory.
cheeseheadsaredu mb

Minneapolis, MN

#94 Jul 12, 2012
milwaukee69 wrote:
Colonization is not sending them back...re:
My first impulse would be to free all the slaves, and send them to Liberia,—to their own native land. But a moment’s reflection would convince me that whatever of high hope (as I think there is) there may be in this, in the long run, its sudden execution is impossible.[27]
What part of "send" in lincoln's statement do you not understand?

“I know where you are,”

Since: Jun 08

Right here under my thumb

#95 Jul 12, 2012
cheeseheadsaredumb wrote:
<quoted text>
What part of "send" in lincoln's statement do you not understand?
Simple you twit...how can you colonize a country that YOU ARE FROM?

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#96 Jul 12, 2012
cantmakeitup wrote:
<quoted text>
For the most part, the days of walking in to the mechanics shop and seeing his office walls lined with centerfolds are gone. Not because of a desire to be appropriate but rather a desire to not be sued by some whiny person who is "offended".
You are correct in your assertion that, right or wrong, your rights stop at your employers door. Most of them anyway. But what you do on your own time is none of their business.
Only with the exception of those who get random drug screens. What you do on your time could very well be their business.

“I know where you are,”

Since: Jun 08

Right here under my thumb

#97 Jul 12, 2012
And...learn how to troll...lmao

You posted as your Topix name and as a troll....lmfgdao
LOL

Minneapolis, MN

#98 Jul 12, 2012
milwaukee69 wrote:
And...learn how to troll...lmao
You posted as your Topix name and as a troll....lmfgdao
You certainly are dumb. Stop eating the cheese.

“I know where you are,”

Since: Jun 08

Right here under my thumb

#99 Jul 12, 2012
LOL wrote:
<quoted text>
You certainly are dumb. Stop eating the cheese.
Oooooooo!!!!! I'm shakin' in my boots!!!!

You better get out and enjoy the weather buddy - school starts back up in a little over a month!!!

“I know where you are,”

Since: Jun 08

Right here under my thumb

#100 Jul 12, 2012
DaveMC wrote:
<quoted text>Only with the exception of those who get random drug screens. What you do on your time could very well be their business.
Also...***big inhale***
sniffin' glue...swiggin' Windex...lickin' Whiteout...inhalin' paint...

Since: Sep 11

Rogers, MN

#101 Jul 12, 2012
DaveMC wrote:
<quoted text>Only with the exception of those who get random drug screens. What you do on your time could very well be their business.
I am not a fan of random screenings for anyone. As long as you're sober on the job and performing up to standards, it's no ones business what you do on your own time. At the very lease, it is a violation of our 4th and 5th amendment rights. If the employer has reason to suspect you are using on their time, then they have a right to know. Not until we start random screening Congress, the president, state legislatures and anyone in business with a C in front of their title like CFO, CIO, COO, CEO, etc.
Seattle Slew

Kent, WA

#102 Jul 12, 2012
If he parks his truck with the flag displayed at work, it's subject to the rules of that workplace - free speech doesn't apply.
if he doesn't park his truck with the flag displayed in his workplace, whatever he does with his own property is his own business - free speech applies.

so, if he covers up the flag while his truck is on work property, he'd be ok.

i don't see why he has a problem with this.
Seattle Slew

Kent, WA

#103 Jul 12, 2012
cantmakeitup wrote:
<quoted text>
For the most part, the days of walking in to the mechanics shop and seeing his office walls lined with centerfolds are gone. Not because of a desire to be appropriate but rather a desire to not be sued by some whiny person who is "offended".
You are correct in your assertion that, right or wrong, your rights stop at your employers door. Most of them anyway. But what you do on your own time is none of their business.
Poor moniker mixer, forgot to change and displays dishonesty for ALL TO SEE ~! LMAOROTFU~!

Since: Sep 11

Rogers, MN

#104 Jul 12, 2012
milwaukee69 wrote:
And...learn how to troll...lmao
You posted as your Topix name and as a troll....lmfgdao
That was not my doing. I always post under my registered moniker. So either someone else did that or there was some kind of glitch.
Seattle Slew

Kent, WA

#106 Jul 12, 2012
And you claim you're 482 years old, right ??? A poor liar is STILL a liar and you said everyone lies, right ??? LMAOROTFu~!

“I know where you are,”

Since: Jun 08

Right here under my thumb

#107 Jul 12, 2012
Seattle Slew wrote:
If he parks his truck with the flag displayed at work, it's subject to the rules of that workplace - free speech doesn't apply.
if he doesn't park his truck with the flag displayed in his workplace, whatever he does with his own property is his own business - free speech applies.
so, if he covers up the flag while his truck is on work property, he'd be ok.
i don't see why he has a problem with this.
School bus drivers park their vehicles in the enclosed bus lot - at least that's the way they do it up here.

MEDFORD, Ore.- An Oregon school bus driver has been suspended for refusing to remove a Confederate flag from his personal vehicle.

The Mail Tribune reports that 28-year-old Ken Webber of Medford says he's worked for four years at First Student School Bus Transportation Services, a contractor for the Phoenix-Talent School District in the Medford area.

Webber says he began displaying the Confederate flag in the bed of his pickup truck a year and a half ago, after his father gave it to him as a birthday gift.

A spokeswoman for the school bus company says Webber was asked to remove the flag because it violates school district policy.

Webber says his suspension violates his free speech rights and he plans to hire an attorney.

**********

Contractors are subject to the same policies as regular employees when on company grounds and within employment.
Seattle Slew

Kent, WA

#108 Jul 12, 2012
And...learn how to troll...lmao

You posted as your Topix name and as a troll....lmfgdao And...learn how to troll...lmao

You posted as your Topix name and as a troll....lmfgdao

And...learn how to troll...lmao

You posted as your Topix name and as a troll....lmfgdao And...learn how to troll...lmao

You posted as your Topix name and as a troll....lmfgdao

“I know where you are,”

Since: Jun 08

Right here under my thumb

#109 Jul 12, 2012
cantmakeitup wrote:
<quoted text>
That was not my doing. I always post under my registered moniker. So either someone else did that or there was some kind of glitch.
My apologies then.

You seem to have a following then...lol

“I know where you are,”

Since: Jun 08

Right here under my thumb

#110 Jul 12, 2012
cantmakeitup wrote:
<quoted text>
I am not a fan of random screenings for anyone. As long as you're sober on the job and performing up to standards, it's no ones business what you do on your own time. At the very lease, it is a violation of our 4th and 5th amendment rights. If the employer has reason to suspect you are using on their time, then they have a right to know. Not until we start random screening Congress, the president, state legislatures and anyone in business with a C in front of their title like CFO, CIO, COO, CEO, etc.
That being said however, I fly a lot...I'd like to know my pilot wasn't out rollin' fatties all night and drinking Tequilla prior to boarding my flight, know what I mean?
Seattle Slew

Kent, WA

#111 Jul 12, 2012
It's a troll... Ask about 482 years old comment...

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