First-degree murder cases show need f...

First-degree murder cases show need for death penalty

There are 56 comments on the Sentinel & Enterprise story from Dec 2, 2007, titled First-degree murder cases show need for death penalty. In it, Sentinel & Enterprise reports that:

If you need a great argument for why the state of Massachusetts should institute the death penalty in first-degree murder cases, you need only to consider the case of convicted triple murderer Daniel LaPlante.

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Fitchburg guy

Plainville, CT

#21 Dec 15, 2007
Who speaks for the victims of those we execute?

All over the country, news stories bemoan and hype the countdown to execution number 1,000. But where are the stories regarding the ripple effects of the heinous crimes that these murderers were executed for committing? Who is counting the victims?

A conservative estimate puts the number of victims of these 1,000 murderers at 1,895. Why do we hear so much about the killers and so little about the victims and their loved ones who are left behind to pick up the pieces?

Melvin and Linda Lorenz and their son Richard were killed by Roger Stafford. Melvin stopped on a highway near Purcell, Okla., to help what he thought was a woman whose car had broken down, but instead was ambushed by Stafford and his brother, using Stafford's wife as bait. Less than a month after these horrific murders, the trio killed six employees of a steak house in Oklahoma City.

In 1985, 13-year-old Karen Patterson was shot to death in her bed in North Charleston, S.C. Her killer was a neighbor who had already served 10 years of a life sentence for murdering his half-brother Charles in 1970. Joe Atkins cut the Pattersons' phone lines, then entered bearing a machete, a sawed-off shotgun, and a pistol. Karen's parents were chased out of their home by Atkins. Karen's mom ran to the Atkins home nearby, where Joe then murdered his adopted father, Benjamin Atkins, 75, who had worked to persuade parole authorities to release Joe from the life sentence.

When Katy Davis observed three strangers outside her Austin, Texas, apartment, she walked away. Returning later, she was attacked and forced to open the door by Charles Rector, on parole for a previous murder. The men ransacked her apartment, abducted her and took her to a lake where she was beaten, gang-raped, shot in the head and repeatedly forced underwater until she drowned.

Ruby Longsworth of Pasadena, Texas, met Jeffrey Barney through a prison ministry, then helped him get paroled from an auto-theft sentence. Her kindness was repaid when Barney raped and sodomized her, then strangled her with a cord. She had made the mistake of calling Barney "a bum" after she had gotten to know him better.

In 1965, Robert Massie murdered mother of two Mildred Weiss in San Gabriel, Calif., during a follow-home robbery. Hours before execution, a stay was issued so Massie could testify against his accomplice. Massie's sentence was commuted to life when the Supreme Court halted executions in 1972. Receiving an undeserved second chance, Massie was paroled, but eight months later robbed and murdered businessman Boris Naumoff in San Francisco.

Faith Hathaway was 17 when she was murdered by Robert Willie, whose story became the inspiration for the film Dead Man Walking. Hathaway had just graduated from high school and was leaving for the Army the next day. She was abducted after leaving a farewell party in Mandeville, La. Willie and accomplice Joseph Vaccaro had been on an 8-day murder, robbery and rape spree. Hathaway was raped by both assailants and stabbed 17 times. She was raped again after she died.

We must think about the lives that all 1,895 murdered victims affected. Every one had families, friends, relatives, co-workers, neighbors. The combined loss is incalculable.

There is no end to horror stories like these. Jurors, who represent us, hear about horrific crimes and make tough but appropriate decisions. With a yearly average of 15,000 murders, the fact that we are reaching 1,000 executions in only a little more than 30 years is proof that capital punishment has been reserved for the worst of the worst.

The attention given to the execution of 1,000 murderers is repugnant, especially when the loudest voices think the death of a convicted murderer is a tragedy. Yet the deaths and suffering of countless victims is only an easily-ignored statistic.
Fitchburg guy

Plainville, CT

#22 Dec 15, 2007
Red Baron wrote:
<quoted text>
So true, So true. When I watch the Nancy Grace Show, it seems funny, those states that have the Death Penalty, are the same ones with the latest in grisly murders. Yet there are so many conservatives who think it's a deterrant.
Glad to know...my head is on my shoulders, and not stuck in the sand like those conservatives!
"If we execute murderers and there is in fact no deterrent effect, we have killed a bunch of murderers. If we fail to execute murderers, and doing so would in fact have deterred other murders, we have allowed the killing of a bunch of innocent victims. I would much rather risk the former. This, to me, is not a tough call."
John McAdams - Marquette University/Department of Political Science, on deterrence
JUDITH

United States

#23 Dec 15, 2007
Fitchburg thank you for helping me to speak up for my precious son Matthew and all the others that have been victim to violent and brutal murder. The death penalty has to be restored and carried out quickly so that NO ONE ENDURES THE VIOLENT AND BRUTAL MURDER THAT MY SON ENDURED!
Fitchburg H20

Plainville, CT

#24 Dec 16, 2007
Red Baron wrote:
<quoted text>
So true, So true. When I watch the Nancy Grace Show, it seems funny, those states that have the Death Penalty, are the same ones with the latest in grisly murders. Yet there are so many conservatives who think it's a deterrant.
Glad to know...my head is on my shoulders, and not stuck in the sand like those conservatives!
After reading this article you should pull your head out of your aarrs and get some fresh air. http://www.telegram.com/article/20071216/NEWS...
Fitchburg guy

Plainville, CT

#25 Dec 16, 2007
JUDITH wrote:
Fitchburg thank you for helping me to speak up for my precious son Matthew and all the others that have been victim to violent and brutal murder. The death penalty has to be restored and carried out quickly so that NO ONE ENDURES THE VIOLENT AND BRUTAL MURDER THAT MY SON ENDURED!
Judith,
My prayers go out to both you and your son Matthew. God Bless you!
Red Baron

Belfast, ME

#26 Dec 16, 2007
Ken wrote:
Red Baron: Not a real intelligent series of statements
--first, I seldom see any conservatives or liberal for that matter saying the the deayh penalty is a "deterrent" -- most of the posts are from anti-death penalty people saying that it is not one.
--second, as to the Mason-Dixon Line --remember that Washington DC is not only the Capitol but it is the murder capitol.
--third, Nancy Grace hounded a young woman to her suicide in a case near here. Her show comes on and my tv goes off.
Well Ken, it seems that a LIBERAL legislature in Massachusetts has voted down the Capital Punishment bill, 3 times. Once during the William Weld administration (in which William Weld had pushed capital punishment in his gubernatoral campaign). His successor, Argeo Paul Cellucci, and during the Rommney administrations also. All 3 cases, the conservatives pushing the bill had stated that it would be a "deterrant." All 3 times, were shot down by a LIBERAL legislature.

I am not certain if the issue came before the legislature during the Jane Swift administration, but it is certain that it would happen.

As for your propaganda, it wouldn't surprise me that you would say such things. After all coming from a "Red" state like Florida, killing the wrong people, and if they are black they are guilty, it again doesn't surprise you would try to make me buy your propaganda.
ken

Fort Wayne, IN

#27 Dec 16, 2007
Red Baron wrote:
<quoted text>
Well Ken, it seems that a LIBERAL legislature in Massachusetts has voted down the Capital Punishment bill, 3 times. Once during the William Weld administration (in which William Weld had pushed capital punishment in his gubernatoral campaign). His successor, Argeo Paul Cellucci, and during the Rommney administrations also. All 3 cases, the conservatives pushing the bill had stated that it would be a "deterrant." All 3 times, were shot down by a LIBERAL legislature.
I am not certain if the issue came before the legislature during the Jane Swift administration, but it is certain that it would happen.
As for your propaganda, it wouldn't surprise me that you would say such things. After all coming from a "Red" state like Florida, killing the wrong people, and if they are black they are guilty, it again doesn't surprise you would try to make me buy your propaganda.
I'll take you at your word on the campaigns. I really do not care to waste my time to refute you on a miniscule campaign.
Speaking of propaganda, please name the "wrong people" who have been executed???
Shannon

Fort Huachuca, AZ

#28 Dec 17, 2007
If someone is obviously guilty without a doubt then they should be executed. Why support them for the rest of thier pathetic lives with our tax dollars that could be spent on something of value when they had no respect and consideration for the lives that they took. JMO
Ed LaFrance

Fitchburg, MA

#29 Jun 10, 2008
Nancy Grace should be put in the slammer for hounding that young lady who chose suicide after being abused on live tv. Lock me up with this Laplante fella and I will show him what it is like to go through what that poor family had to go through. I just drove down saunders road where it happend in was sick to death to even be there. I could not help but notice that it was a dead end road which is really creepy. They should bring him back to townsend and hang him. Hell, I will string the rope up and kill the bastard my self so that the taxpayers don't have to deal with the cost of killing him.
rrr

United States

#30 Jun 11, 2008
Thats right all you KILL him people. When these killers are born they are not killers, its a-- holes they run into in life like you people that turn these people into what they became. How many time have you people ever said those majak words ID KILL THAT SOB if i got my hand son him or if you don,t do what i say KID ill kill you. Don,t be shy by the time you all reach 70 years old you have felt that anger at least 100 time or more nd im not even talking about the poor slobs that were trained by the USA armed forces to kill with out thought. So LIKE the old SAYING go,s from long ago in that public square with the woman that cheated on her husband and was going t be STONED to death...HE with NO sin can cast the first stone.
rrr

United States

#31 Jun 11, 2008
Murders are not born this way its the pressure of socoity that turns them into that way. Not sticking up for these people but at one time i would bet these people were nice or even kind people, because if they we not than there hearts would have been cold and things wouldn,t have bothered them to turn them into killers in the first place.
Larry

Truro, MA

#32 Jun 11, 2008
Aren't we supposed to be better than those who choose to take a life? It makes me cringe when I hear the twisted blatherings of vigilante 'justice' by people who claim to be of a higher moral class than the degenerates they're speaking of.
dom

Webster, MA

#33 Jul 6, 2008
Do you all know that this case for LaPlante was completely circumstantial? If he had the right lawer he wouldn't have even been convicted.I don't believe he even did it. Too many questions? Problems with Husband?
dom

Webster, MA

#34 Jul 6, 2008
Do you know that case was completely circumstantial. If he had a better lawyer he might not have even been convicted. How much do you even know about the case. Did you know that there were problems in the marriage? Too many questions?
Fitchburg Native wrote:
LaPlante is just one of many sicko's on this planet who can clearly justify capital punishment. Providing this subhuman with essential elements to sustain life, equates to the continual victimization of society as a whole. Why would any moral society continually treat disease, when a cure exists? LaPlante's mere existence, remains a threat too all.
Evil people exist and their victims have the common right to apply an eye for an eye approach at justice instead of continually being victimized by paying more and more to keep them and that threat alive. Most educated people with common sense know this and side with the victim! The benifits of capital punishment outweigh the risks of a "flawed system". If one innocent person is put to death by mistake then that individual should be declared a war hero for our war on crime and their family should be given military death benifits like the many "innocent" war hero's who have made the ultimate sacrifice for this country.
marti klever

Las Vegas, NV

#35 Mar 8, 2009
F The Death Penalty wrote:
The death penalty will never be legal in Mass and I hope it's abolished worldwide.
Does anyone remember the incident involving "Little Richie" in or around the Fitchburg/Leominster area, in the early nineties? I worked on that case as a psychic and am trying to remember the details - full name, dates, etc. He was missing for quite a while and I was asked to "find" him. He was the son of a demolition company owner... they caught a local drug dealer for it but I don't believe he was convicted for the murder - just the drug dealing, but they know the dealer did it. You can write to me at martha@confidentialpsychic.com . Thank you!

Nautilus1

Since: Feb 09

United States

#36 Mar 11, 2009
F The Death Penalty wrote:
The death penalty will never be legal in Mass and I hope it's abolished worldwide.
Thank you Ted Kennedy
anonymus121

Newark, OH

#37 Mar 12, 2009
Fitchburg H20 wrote:
<quoted text> After reading this article you should pull your head out of your aarrs and get some fresh air. http://www.telegram.com/article/20071216/NEWS...
Holy craaaaap dude

Nautilus1

Since: Feb 09

United States

#38 Mar 13, 2009
ken wrote:
<quoted text>
I'll take you at your word on the campaigns. I really do not care to waste my time to refute you on a miniscule campaign.
Speaking of propaganda, please name the "wrong people" who have been executed???
R B crash and burn
reply

Worcester, MA

#39 Mar 14, 2009
rrr wrote:
Thats right all you KILL him people. When these killers are born they are not killers, its a-- holes they run into in life like you people that turn these people into what they became. How many time have you people ever said those majak words ID KILL THAT SOB if i got my hand son him or if you don,t do what i say KID ill kill you. Don,t be shy by the time you all reach 70 years old you have felt that anger at least 100 time or more nd im not even talking about the poor slobs that were trained by the USA armed forces to kill with out thought. So LIKE the old SAYING go,s from long ago in that public square with the woman that cheated on her husband and was going t be STONED to death...HE with NO sin can cast the first stone.
My God you are such an idiot
reply

Worcester, MA

#40 Mar 14, 2009
All you bleeding hearts,you will change your mind when one of your family members becomes a victim. I am sure if you ask the families,,the majority of them would strongly approve of death for the lowlife that committed the crime. I think the death sentence should be EXACTLY the same as the way they killed their victim. None of this whimpy crap of going night night first with an injection,then they die,,let them feel every second of pain, just like the victim did. And also,,let them know how it is going to happen,,but not when,,so they can sweat it out and feel the same fear their victim did. You people who blame society on these scumbags becomming killers are a joke,,save the taxpayers $$ and fry their a s s e s ,,,in fact,,put it on pay per view and give the money to the family of the victim!!!!

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