Dad punishes son for vandalism by mak...

Dad punishes son for vandalism by making him advertise his offense

There are 174 comments on the Daily Breeze story from Dec 17, 2008, titled Dad punishes son for vandalism by making him advertise his offense. In it, Daily Breeze reports that:

With his father keeping an eye on him, Dennis Baltimore Jr. walks along Cherry Avenue at Willow wearing the sign advertising his vandalism at Wilson High School.

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San Pedro Viewer

San Pedro, CA

#67 Dec 17, 2008
I always thought this country is stuck in the 19th century. Looks like I was wrong. It's stuck in the middle ages.
The way the student's father is keeping an eye on him indicates that this parent is more worried about his own reputation than the welfare of his son.
Mom of 3

Los Angeles, CA

#68 Dec 17, 2008
Good job, Dad! Now his son will think twice before doing something stupid again. We need more parents like this out in this world.
Pat Sucher

Houston, TX

#70 Dec 17, 2008
DYang,
Think about it.
You do that to a kid - some kids will understand that it's bad to be bad, but others will take it another direction and it will build hate. For the latter, the next criminal action by the kid will likely be worse.

So what I'm saying is that the approach from the dad may or may not lead to good results. He won't know until time passes.

BUT, I'm certain that if the kid understands the function of society and accepts his role in society, he'll better understand why it is wrong AND 100% of the time you'll have a better kid.

Society is also about progress.
South Bay Native

Torrance, CA

#71 Dec 17, 2008
I doubt he is there for his own reputation. He is simply standing there to make sure his son dose the time after doing the crime. Would it have been better to have his son go to jail? I think this is a much better way to get the job done.
San Pedro Viewer wrote:
I always thought this country is stuck in the 19th century. Looks like I was wrong. It's stuck in the middle ages.
The way the student's father is keeping an eye on him indicates that this parent is more worried about his own reputation than the welfare of his son.
D Yang

Richmond Hill, Canada

#72 Dec 17, 2008
Pat Sucher wrote:
DYang,
Think about it.
You do that to a kid - some kids will understand that it's bad to be bad, but others will take it another direction and it will build hate. For the latter, the next criminal action by the kid will likely be worse.
So what I'm saying is that the approach from the dad may or may not lead to good results. He won't know until time passes.
BUT, I'm certain that if the kid understands the function of society and accepts his role in society, he'll better understand why it is wrong AND 100% of the time you'll have a better kid.
Society is also about progress.
Well, Pat, let me give you a real life family example...one of my son's was Student Body Pres. in high school his senior year of HS...on the baseball team and a good student...he had, however, a bit of a free spirit...he got in trouble with a couple of buddies shoplifting (not caught) from a Nordstrom's Rack and three day later got a key to the HS gym, he and his buddies got in, swung on the ropes and "borrowed a couple of jerseys from the basketball team area...they were all minors...guess what, the silent alarm went off, they ran, one kid got caught and the others went back and said they all did it...juvenile hall to meet for a "sentencing"...total embarrassment to a good kid (my son) and culpable and contrite...he felt horrible...we made him support restitution with the school with parent suspension for two games from the baseball team, but made him go so others would see and ask why he wasn't playing the sport he loved...we made him go to the Nordstrom's rack and volunteer to work for nothing stocking shelves in the back to make up for what he took, and return the items with an apology...this one month "fling" of unacceptable behavior was nipped early and today, he is a UCLA and law school grad and practicing attorney. He talks to kids about being responsible in life...if we had used the "It's okay, honey, no big deal approach", where do you think he'd be today...oh, I know, you said, "time will tell"...well, my wife and I would do it all over again and kudos to the Baltimores!!!! Kids will all go to the edge of the cliff...they'll jump if they know mommy and daddy are the safety net...
ITS ABOUT TIME

Los Angeles, CA

#73 Dec 17, 2008
Thank goodness we finally hear a story where the parent give a damn about what his kid does. To many times we here of children who are completely out of control. Reason is parents worry too much about cuddling away bad behavior instead of dealing with it head on. Mr. Baltimore is on the right track, and I am sure more parents are on board. I have 3 kids and I make sure they know that before they do anything questionable, they ask themselves, "What will my mom do when she finds out? Not "IF" but "WHEN" she finds out.
Pat Sucher

Houston, TX

#74 Dec 17, 2008
DYang,
I'm not sure if you read what I wrote correctly. I never-ever did support the feel-good approach. I said to fit the punishment and crime better (not to walk around with a sign, but to work community service) AND to teach.
- I think that the parents doing this is better than the courts. Courts should be the last resort.

My approach was basically in-line with what you did with you kid. Good for you and him! I'm not without sin, I've done similar things - but I've learned. Walking around with a sign would've made me resentful, not repentant.
I hope your boy makes the law profession better - tell him to make the world better - not to take money away from it.
Percy

Dallas, TX

#75 Dec 17, 2008
I commend the father for steering his son in the right direction. Hopefully other parents will take note and realize they can take proactive roles in their children's lives, steering them in the right direction if they get off track. Excellent job.
John

Mount Vernon, WA

#76 Dec 17, 2008
This is the kind of parenting which needs to take place in a lot of Latino neighborhoods where the kids run wild, join gangs, back talk their parents, etc...
Many of these kids would turn out to be good citizens if these parents would take initiative and punish their children, and make them pay for their crimes!
Good Job Roy!!!
Percy

Dallas, TX

#77 Dec 17, 2008
fred wrote:
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I bet if this happened in your town the kid wouldn't have a chance. He'd be full of lead before the shooters could read both sides though.
Brilliant observation fred, way to contribute in a meaningful way. Keep up the good work genius.
south bay dude

Sherman Oaks, CA

#78 Dec 17, 2008
Kudo's! to Dennis Baltimore Sr!!!!!

THAT is father that loves his son!!!

More parents could take a lesson from him...Wish more would!!

teaching this young man about negative consequences, and responsibility for his actions is the role of a parent. Not the school, church, neighbors etc.
formerly really

Rancho Palos Verdes, CA

#79 Dec 17, 2008
Pat Sucher wrote:
DYang,
I'm not sure if you read what I wrote correctly. I never-ever did support the feel-good approach. I said to fit the punishment and crime better (not to walk around with a sign, but to work community service) AND to teach.
- I think that the parents doing this is better than the courts. Courts should be the last resort.
My approach was basically in-line with what you did with you kid. Good for you and him! I'm not without sin, I've done similar things - but I've learned. Walking around with a sign would've made me resentful, not repentant.
I hope your boy makes the law profession better - tell him to make the world better - not to take money away from it.
Did you read the article, Pat? He ALSO had to clean up graffiti. You understimate the power of shame to modify behavior. It might make you temporarily resentful but this wasn't an arbitrary punishment and the kid knew that. Humiliation for its own sake is not constructive; a little public embarassment for doing something that was wrong- that's a teaching tool.
GV - Pasadena

Orange Park, FL

#80 Dec 17, 2008
I have told both of my children the same thing if they do something bad. Fortunately, they have not done and hope that neither of my children will do anything bad. Kudos to you Mr. Baltimore and keep your great influence on your children.
Community Member

Redlands, CA

#81 Dec 17, 2008
The bottom picture truly tells it all-- the father in the background looking after his son. He could have just sent his son out on the streets to suffer the consequences of his actions. But instead the father MANNED up, handed out the punishment, but still kept an eye out on his son.

Great job Mr. Baltimore. I'd like to shake your hand and I hope more parents take your lead in being responsible parents, even if it means having to do this. I'm sure your kids will grow up to be wonderful adults with you as an example. God bless you all. With people like you, America will be great again.
Bubbles

Aliso Viejo, CA

#82 Dec 17, 2008
San Pedro Viewer wrote:
I always thought this country is stuck in the 19th century. Looks like I was wrong. It's stuck in the middle ages.
The way the student's father is keeping an eye on him indicates that this parent is more worried about his own reputation than the welfare of his son.
If he raised his son right, he wouldn't be vandalizing other's property, right?
Lucy

Torrance, CA

#83 Dec 17, 2008
What a great father!!! Thank goodness there are still parents who are not afraid to do the right thing and disipline their children!
Justine

Pico Rivera, CA

#84 Dec 17, 2008
Father of the year! Way to stand up and make him be a man. Take responsibility for his actions.
Momma

Culpeper, VA

#85 Dec 17, 2008
We need more parents like Mr. Baltimore Sr. We need to disipline our kids, not let them get off scott free!!!
Greg Scharf

Hawthorne, CA

#86 Dec 17, 2008
As a local attorney dealing with these issues, I applaud Baltimore Sr.'s intervention and concern. He's absolutely right to emphasize personal responsibility and awareness of resulting consequences. The man has values and morals which have been long forgotten by much of our society. The approving roar of the crowd should be deafening. But then, there is a crowd -- isn't there?
Jeff Shaw

Los Angeles, CA

#87 Dec 17, 2008
Inspirational Dadsmanship.

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